Re: Another Limited lens

2004-09-15 Thread Peter J. Alling
Well it is the edge and corners where the sharpness is most questionable... keller.schaefer wrote: I have only used the M 2.8/40 for some *ist D shots, but I have not found anything wrong with the image quality. In my eyes, what it lacks compared to a 1.4/50 does not really show up on *ist D images

RE: Another Limited lens

2004-09-15 Thread Andy Chang
ight *ist D series, it is done that it becomes the small-sized digital single-lens reflex camera which it is easy to carry. [unquote] -Original Message- From: Alan Chan [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Tuesday, September 14, 2004 11:46 AM To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: Another L

Re: Another Limited lens

2004-09-15 Thread Arnold Stark
I really wonder whether it is the same or a very similar optical formula as in the M40/f2.8. If so, the image circle should be large enough to cover the full frame. No need or even no way to scale it down. However, the lack of an aperture ring makes the DA40/f2.8 really "limited" in its abiliti

Re: Another Limited lens

2004-09-14 Thread Herb Chong
i guess this has been pointed out already, but a DA lens doesn't cover the full 35mm frame. Herb... - Original Message - From: "Robert Woerner" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> To: <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> Sent: Tuesday, September 14, 2004 9:35 AM Subject: Re: Another Limi

Re: Another Limited lens

2004-09-14 Thread Herb Chong
; Sent: Tuesday, September 14, 2004 8:28 AM Subject: Re: Another Limited lens My opinion? Sh*te. Just a curio.

Re: Another Limited lens

2004-09-14 Thread Alan Chan
Maybe this time means "limited" quality? Alan Chan http://www.pbase.com/wlachan I think it's very cool, but as someone else said, are they tainting the name "limited" by making a non metal lens? _ Take advantage of powerful junk e-mai

Re: Another Limited lens

2004-09-14 Thread Alan Chan
I guess it was made of metal, otherwise why labeled it LIMITED? I can see no other reason to do so unless they are stupid. Are they? Alan Chan http://www.pbase.com/wlachan Don't know what it's made from yet, only seen the pict. _ De

Re: Another Limited lens

2004-09-14 Thread Alan Chan
I am afraid it is not full frame. Alan Chan http://www.pbase.com/wlachan Some of us still shoot film cameras like the MZ-S. Maybe we would like an AF pancake. Thank you Pentax. I'm gonna get one.TOO CL. _ MSN® Calendar keeps y

Re: Another Limited lens

2004-09-14 Thread Peter J. Alling
It wouldn't be hard, but I doubt it's better... CRB wrote: At least it has a better focus ring than the M. Sincerely, C.Brendemuehl "Politics is supposed to be the second oldest profession. I have come to realize that it bears a very close resemblance to the first."

Re: Another Limited lens

2004-09-14 Thread Peter J. Alling
Don't know what it's made from yet, only seen the pict. frank theriault wrote: On Tue, 14 Sep 2004 00:48:26 -0400, Peter J. Alling <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: Now that really is a "pancake" lens! Well, it's so thin. If the M 2.8 40mm is a pancake, surely this will be the Crepe Lens. Act

Re: Another Limited lens

2004-09-14 Thread Kostas Kavoussanakis
On Tue, 14 Sep 2004, Robert Woerner wrote: > Some of us still shoot film cameras like the MZ-S. Maybe we would like an AF > pancake. Thank you Pentax. I'm gonna get one.TOO CL. Apart from the lack of aperture priority, will this not vignette on FF 35mm? Kostas

Re: Another Limited lens

2004-09-14 Thread Peter J. Alling
Since Barrel distortion is at the edge of the frame I would assume it's much less of a problem on the *ist-d/ds. CRB wrote: Wouldn't this be a decent portrait length for APS-class Digital? My only wish is that the optical quality is better than the 43/1.9 with its barrel issues. If this is just

Re: Another Limited lens

2004-09-14 Thread Peter J. Alling
Looks more like the old 18mm fixed aperture fisheye Pentax made ages ago. Paul Stenquist wrote: It appears to be very similar to the M 40/2.8. On Sep 14, 2004, at 12:48 AM, Peter J. Alling wrote: Now that really is a "pancake" lens! Alan Chan wrote: smc PENTAX-DA 40mm F2.8 Limited http://pc.watch.i

Re: Another Limited lens

2004-09-14 Thread CRB
At least it has a better focus ring than the M. Sincerely, C.Brendemuehl "Politics is supposed to be the second oldest profession. I have come to realize that it bears a very close resemblance to the first." Ronald Reagan ___

Re: Another Limited lens

2004-09-14 Thread Robert Woerner
ay, September 14, 2004 9:46 AM Subject: Re: Another Limited lens > Robert Woerner a écrit : > > >Some of us still shoot film cameras like the MZ-S. Maybe we would like an AF > >pancake. Thank you Pentax. I'm gonna get one.TOO CL. > > > > > > > Ist DA lens, no aperture ring for MZ-S:-(( > >

Re: Another Limited lens

2004-09-14 Thread frank theriault
On Tue, 14 Sep 2004 00:48:26 -0400, Peter J. Alling <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > Now that really is a "pancake" lens! Well, it's so thin. If the M 2.8 40mm is a pancake, surely this will be the Crepe Lens. Actually, I hope Crepe Lens doesn't catch on - sounds too much like Crap Lens... I

Re: Another Limited lens

2004-09-14 Thread Frantisek
Tuesday, September 14, 2004, 3:45:43 PM, Graywolf wrote: G> Simple physics. 40mm is about the shortest lens that will clear the G> mirror box. Anything shorter than that needs to be a retrofocus design, G> and thus much larger. Oh. I see. Dumb me :) I guess a shorter FL pancake could be made for

Re: Another Limited lens

2004-09-14 Thread Mark Roberts
Frantisek <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: >I just don't get what the idiots were thinking... They were thinking that they could sell a *tiny" lens with excellent optical quality to go with their incredibly compact new DSLR... while investing virtually no R&D money into the project (assuming they're re

Re: Another Limited lens

2004-09-14 Thread Graywolf
Simple physics. 40mm is about the shortest lens that will clear the mirror box. Anything shorter than that needs to be a retrofocus design, and thus much larger. -- Frantisek wrote: I just don't get what the idiots were thinking... 40mm pancake for 1.5x crop digital?!? 60mm pancake? Nice, but th

Re: Another Limited lens

2004-09-14 Thread Kostas Kavoussanakis
On Mon, 13 Sep 2004, Alan Chan wrote: > smc PENTAX-DA 40mm F2.8 Limited > > http://pc.watch.impress.co.jp/docs/2004/0914/pentax1.htm My opinion? Sh*te. Just a curio. Kostas

Re: Another Limited lens

2004-09-14 Thread Frantisek
I just don't get what the idiots were thinking... 40mm pancake for 1.5x crop digital?!? 60mm pancake? Nice, but the thing that was missing was 40mm EQUIVALENT pancake... THAT would be nice. OTOH, Tessar formula can be made to be the best lens, if utilised with the right glasses... look at Leica El

Re: Another Limited lens

2004-09-14 Thread CRB
Wouldn't this be a decent portrait length for APS-class Digital? My only wish is that the optical quality is better than the 43/1.9 with its barrel issues. If this is just another Tessar it will be average, but if it's optimized for digital imaging then it might really sell the bodies. (Like

Re: Another Limited lens

2004-09-14 Thread Paul Stenquist
It appears to be very similar to the M 40/2.8. On Sep 14, 2004, at 12:48 AM, Peter J. Alling wrote: Now that really is a "pancake" lens! Alan Chan wrote: smc PENTAX-DA 40mm F2.8 Limited http://pc.watch.impress.co.jp/docs/2004/0914/pentax1.htm Alan Chan http://www.pbase.com/wlachan _

Re: Another Limited lens

2004-09-14 Thread Rob Studdert
On 13 Sep 2004 at 22:07, Alan Chan wrote: > I imagine the DA40/2.8 would be so cheap they must think why not? It draws > attention and won't cost much. But I much prefer they don't call it "Limited" > unless the whole thing was made of metal. As to the normal shooting range, I > think they have tr

Re: Another Limited lens

2004-09-13 Thread Peter Loveday
smc PENTAX-DA 40mm F2.8 Limited It's not exactly what I would have expected... Indeed not. Pancake or not, I can't see why they would release a limited at 40mm, when they have a perfectly good 43mm. And its slower than the 43/1.9. Yawn. How about a good 'normal' prime for the *istD(s). The 31

Re: Another Limited lens

2004-09-13 Thread Shel Belinkoff
Pass the maple syrup Very cool! Shel > [Original Message] > From: Peter J. Alling <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> > Now that really is a "pancake" lens! > > Alan Chan wrote: > > > smc PENTAX-DA 40mm F2.8 Limited > > > > http://pc.watch.impress.co.jp/docs/2004/0914/pentax1.htm

Re: Another Limited lens

2004-09-13 Thread Peter J. Alling
It's not exactly what I would have expected... Alan Chan wrote: smc PENTAX-DA 40mm F2.8 Limited http://pc.watch.impress.co.jp/docs/2004/0914/pentax1.htm Alan Chan http://www.pbase.com/wlachan _ MSN® Calendar keeps you organized and tak

Re: Another Limited lens

2004-09-13 Thread Michel Carrère-Gée
Alan Chan a écrit : smc PENTAX-DA 40mm F2.8 Limited http://pc.watch.impress.co.jp/docs/2004/0914/pentax1.htm A new "Pancake" !!

Re: Another Limited lens

2004-09-13 Thread Peter J. Alling
Now that really is a "pancake" lens! Alan Chan wrote: smc PENTAX-DA 40mm F2.8 Limited http://pc.watch.impress.co.jp/docs/2004/0914/pentax1.htm Alan Chan http://www.pbase.com/wlachan _ MSN® Calendar keeps you organized and takes the eff

Another Limited lens

2004-09-13 Thread Alan Chan
smc PENTAX-DA 40mm F2.8 Limited http://pc.watch.impress.co.jp/docs/2004/0914/pentax1.htm Alan Chan http://www.pbase.com/wlachan _ MSN® Calendar keeps you organized and takes the effort out of scheduling get-togethers. http://join.msn