Re: SV: Any one regret upgrading to the K10D?

2007-05-18 Thread Bruce Dayton
I'm shooting with a 45 CL-3 handle mount Metz. No problems with it. Just set it to one of the auto settings and the camera to match. -- Bruce Thursday, May 17, 2007, 5:55:20 AM, you wrote: WB> On Thu, May 17, 2007 at 11:08:08AM +0200, Jens Bladt wrote.. >> Good you are finally out of the hosp

Re: Any one regret upgrading to the K10D?

2007-05-17 Thread David Savage
And a translation for those of use who only understand the metric system :-) DA 16-45 = 280.7g (9.9 oz) DA* 16-50 = 564.1g (19.9 oz) DA 50-200 = 260.8g (9.2 oz) DA* 50-135 = 686.1g (24.2 oz) (Keep in mind that the FA* 80-200 f2.8 weighs in at 1510g) Cheers, Dave At 11:46 AM 18/05/2007, Stan

Re: Any one regret upgrading to the K10D?

2007-05-17 Thread Stan Halpin
DA 16-45 = 9.9 oz DA* 16-50 = 19.9 oz DA 50-200 = 9.2 oz DA* 50-135 = 24.2 oz On May 17, 2007, at 3:20 PM, Thibouille wrote: > 2007/5/17, Digital Image Studio <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>: > >> >> K10D + grip + two batteries + FA80-200/2.8 = 2.5kg, not a great >> advantage to Pentax these days. >> > Sure

Re: Any one regret upgrading to the K10D?

2007-05-17 Thread William Robb
- Original Message - From: "Digital Image Studio" Subject: Re: Any one regret upgrading to the K10D? > Oh, I thought we were talking about real lenses for real cameras ;-) ( > <---see the smiley) I'm waiting to see what the new F/2.8 zooms weigh in at. Willi

Re: Any one regret upgrading to the K10D?

2007-05-17 Thread Digital Image Studio
On 18/05/07, Thibouille <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > 2007/5/17, Digital Image Studio <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>: > > > > > K10D + grip + two batteries + FA80-200/2.8 = 2.5kg, not a great > > advantage to Pentax these days. > > > Sure Rob, but those are "old metal models" which are replaced by > plastic DA

Re: Any one regret upgrading to the K10D?

2007-05-17 Thread Thibouille
2007/5/17, Digital Image Studio <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>: > > K10D + grip + two batteries + FA80-200/2.8 = 2.5kg, not a great > advantage to Pentax these days. > Sure Rob, but those are "old metal models" which are replaced by plastic DA + SDM. What is the weight of the equivallent lens (DA* 50-135)? 9

Re: SV: Any one regret upgrading to the K10D?

2007-05-17 Thread Wilko Bulte
On Thu, May 17, 2007 at 09:25:11AM -0600, William Robb wrote.. > > - Original Message - > From: "Wilko Bulte" > Subject: Re: SV: Any one regret upgrading to the K10D? > > > > >> I routinely use a Metz 60 CT-2 with my cameras. > > > >

Re: SV: Any one regret upgrading to the K10D?

2007-05-17 Thread William Robb
- Original Message - From: "Wilko Bulte" Subject: Re: SV: Any one regret upgrading to the K10D? >> I routinely use a Metz 60 CT-2 with my cameras. > > That sounds promising. But given that the K10D is my father's I would > like > to know what Pent

Re: SV: Any one regret upgrading to the K10D?

2007-05-17 Thread Wilko Bulte
On Thu, May 17, 2007 at 08:47:58AM -0600, William Robb wrote.. > > - Original Message - > From: "Wilko Bulte" > Subject: Re: SV: Any one regret upgrading to the K10D? > > > > > > > What Metz models? The old ones have a rather high sync

Re: SV: Any one regret upgrading to the K10D?

2007-05-17 Thread William Robb
- Original Message - From: "Wilko Bulte" Subject: Re: SV: Any one regret upgrading to the K10D? > > What Metz models? The old ones have a rather high sync voltage. What can > the > Pentax DSLR handle, especially the K10D? > I routinely use a Metz 60 CT-2

Re: SV: Any one regret upgrading to the K10D?

2007-05-17 Thread Wilko Bulte
On Thu, May 17, 2007 at 11:08:08AM +0200, Jens Bladt wrote.. > Good you are finally out of the hospital, Larry. > Yes - these old TTL only flashes are useless with the K10D. There's not even > a sensor in that flash. > Ii use old Metz flashes with a sensor. They work great. But I do miss TTL What

Re: Any one regret upgrading to the K10D?

2007-05-17 Thread Jaume Lahuerta
original De: Boris Liberman <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> Para: Pentax-Discuss Mail List Enviado: jueves, 17 de mayo, 2007 5:58:55 Asunto: Re: Any one regret upgrading to the K10D? Well, yes, it helps, I cannot deny that. It is just that I think SR contributes significantly to the size of camer

RE: Any one regret upgrading to the K10D?

2007-05-17 Thread Jens Bladt
Emne: Re: Any one regret upgrading to the K10D? On 5/17/07, Jens Bladt <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > My only regret is that the zoom ring is kinda hard to opereate from beneth, > while mounted on this body. Power Zoom Jens. It works again. Cheers, Dave -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail L

SV: Any one regret upgrading to the K10D?

2007-05-17 Thread Jens Bladt
85 77 Skype: jensbladt248 -Oprindelig meddelelse- Fra: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] vegne af Larry Levy Sendt: 16. maj 2007 19:08 Til: pdml@pdml.net Emne: Re: Any one regret upgrading to the K10D? Recently, I had a severe case of ARDS that left me with virtually no muscle

Re: Any one regret upgrading to the K10D?

2007-05-16 Thread David Savage
On 5/17/07, Jens Bladt <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > My only regret is that the zoom ring is kinda hard to opereate from beneth, > while mounted on this body. Power Zoom Jens. It works again. Cheers, Dave -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.

RE: Any one regret upgrading to the K10D?

2007-05-16 Thread Jens Bladt
EMAIL PROTECTED] vegne af Wilko Bulte Sendt: 16. maj 2007 23:30 Til: Pentax-Discuss Mail List Emne: Re: Any one regret upgrading to the K10D? On Wed, May 16, 2007 at 10:00:12PM +0100, Cotty wrote.. > On 16/5/07, David Savage, discombobulated, unleashed: > > >As long as you don't hav

Re: Any one regret upgrading to the K10D?

2007-05-16 Thread John Francis
On Thu, May 17, 2007 at 06:58:55AM +0300, Boris Liberman wrote: > Well, yes, it helps, I cannot deny that. > > It is just that I think SR contributes significantly to the size of > camera. I'd rather Pentax introduced more than on K10D-like models so > that a consumer (a.k.a. me) could make thei

Re: Any one regret upgrading to the K10D?

2007-05-16 Thread Godfrey DiGiorgi
Larry Levy wrote: > Recently, I had a severe case of ARDS that left me with virtually no > muscle tone when I was allowed out of a 6 week induced coma. ... Congratulations on surviving that ordeal, Larry! Life is precious; those things tend to remind us of that. Godfrey -- PDML Pentax-Discuss

Re: Any one regret upgrading to the K10D?

2007-05-16 Thread Boris Liberman
ist > Enviado: miércoles, 16 de mayo, 2007 19:36:43 > Asunto: Re: Any one regret upgrading to the K10D? > > Paul, it is not a simple question. > > My answer is 1/2 yes and 1/2 no. > > 1/2 yes, because > 1. My *istD was smaller and lighter > 2. I don't need c

Re: Any one regret upgrading to the K10D?

2007-05-16 Thread Larry Levy
On 16/5/07, I, discombobulated, unleashed: > >>Recently, I had a severe case of ARDS that left me with virtually no >>muscle >>tone when I was allowed out of a 6 week induced coma. Since I had >>virtually >>no capability to steadily hold a camera, and more than 10 Pentax lenses, I >>decided that

Re: Any one regret upgrading to the K10D?

2007-05-16 Thread Digital Image Studio
On 17/05/07, Cotty <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > On 16/5/07, David Savage, discombobulated, unleashed: > > >As long as you don't have the FA* 80-200mm f2.8 mounted (at 1.51kg). > > 1D = 1565 kg > EF70-200 2.8 = 1310 kg > > Total weight = 2875 kg. > > Same as hauling over 3 and a half K10D bodies at

Re: Any one regret upgrading to the K10D?

2007-05-16 Thread Cotty
On 16/5/07, Wilko Bulte, discombobulated, unleashed: >2.875 kg I hope.. ;-) > >Wilko LOL. Hey *I* knew what I meant :-) -- Cheers, Cotty ___/\__ || (O) | People, Places, Pastiche ||=|http://www.cottysnaps.com _ -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail

Re: Any one regret upgrading to the K10D?

2007-05-16 Thread Wilko Bulte
On Wed, May 16, 2007 at 10:00:12PM +0100, Cotty wrote.. > On 16/5/07, David Savage, discombobulated, unleashed: > > >As long as you don't have the FA* 80-200mm f2.8 mounted (at 1.51kg). > > 1D = 1565 kg > EF70-200 2.8 = 1310 kg > > Total weight = 2875 kg. 2.875 kg I hope.. ;-) Wilko -- PDML

Re: Any one regret upgrading to the K10D?

2007-05-16 Thread Cotty
On 16/5/07, Larry Levy, discombobulated, unleashed: >Recently, I had a severe case of ARDS that left me with virtually no muscle >tone when I was allowed out of a 6 week induced coma. Since I had virtually >no capability to steadily hold a camera, and more than 10 Pentax lenses, I >decided that

Re: Any one regret upgrading to the K10D?

2007-05-16 Thread Cotty
On 16/5/07, David Savage, discombobulated, unleashed: >As long as you don't have the FA* 80-200mm f2.8 mounted (at 1.51kg). 1D = 1565 kg EF70-200 2.8 = 1310 kg Total weight = 2875 kg. Same as hauling over 3 and a half K10D bodies at once. Ouch. -- Cheers, Cotty ___/\__ || (O) |

RE: Any one regret upgrading to the K10D?

2007-05-16 Thread Jens Bladt
adt.dk +45 56 63 77 11 +45 23 43 85 77 Skype: jensbladt248 -Oprindelig meddelelse- Fra: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] vegne af Walter Hamler Sendt: 16. maj 2007 03:16 Til: pdml@pdml.net Emne: Any one regret upgrading to the K10D? A week or so ago I was going to go out sho

Re: Any one regret upgrading to the K10D?

2007-05-16 Thread Jaume Lahuerta
s of the Pentax system... Regards, Jaume - Mensaje original De: Boris Liberman <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> Para: Pentax-Discuss Mail List Enviado: miércoles, 16 de mayo, 2007 19:36:43 Asunto: Re: Any one regret upgrading to the K10D? Paul, it is not a simple question. My answer is 1/2 yes

Re: Any one regret upgrading to the K10D?

2007-05-16 Thread Paul Sorenson
Larry - Wasn't sure what ARDS is so I looked it up - sounds really scary. Glad you're still with us. -p Larry Levy wrote: > Recently, I had a severe case of ARDS that left me with virtually no muscle > tone when I was allowed out of a 6 week induced coma. Since I had virtually > no capabilit

Re: Any one regret upgrading to the K10D?

2007-05-16 Thread Boris Liberman
Paul, it is not a simple question. My answer is 1/2 yes and 1/2 no. 1/2 yes, because 1. My *istD was smaller and lighter 2. I don't need certain amount of bells and whistles of K10D has that incur size and weight penalties. 1/2 no, because 1. K10D produces stunning images 2. K10D does have some

Re: Any one regret upgrading to the K10D?

2007-05-16 Thread Larry Levy
Recently, I had a severe case of ARDS that left me with virtually no muscle tone when I was allowed out of a 6 week induced coma. Since I had virtually no capability to steadily hold a camera, and more than 10 Pentax lenses, I decided that a K100D or K10D was in my future. Coming from an *ist D,

Re: Any one regret upgrading to the K10D?

2007-05-16 Thread John Francis
On Wed, May 16, 2007 at 08:07:55AM -0400, David J Brooks wrote: > Try lugging around a D2H and 70-200 VR F 2.8 all day. You'll begin to > LOVER the K10D.:-) > > I still have my istD as well as the K10D. I find the K10D fits very > well in my hand, and the istD now feels to small. I've kept my D, b

Re: Any one regret upgrading to the K10D?

2007-05-16 Thread David J Brooks
On 5/16/07, William Robb <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > - Original Message - > From: "mike wilson" > Subject: Re: Any one regret upgrading to the K10D? > > > > >> > >> Lucy, our new cat, can send email. She just jumps on the keyboard w

Re: Any one regret upgrading to the K10D?

2007-05-16 Thread David J Brooks
I like the gmail spell checker. It just hilites the word i got right, then everything just falls into place.:-) Dave On 5/16/07, graywolf <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > Yeah, Lucy can spell > > Actually Dave is the only one I know whose spelling is a bit worse than > mine. I know it looks a lot wo

Re: Any one regret upgrading to the K10D?

2007-05-16 Thread graywolf
Yeah, Lucy can spell Actually Dave is the only one I know whose spelling is a bit worse than mine. I know it looks a lot worse, but I have 3 smell checkers on my system. --graywolf mike wilson wrote: >> From: "David J Brooks" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> >> Lucy, our new cat, can send email. She just

Re: Any one regret upgrading to the K10D?

2007-05-16 Thread Fernando
LOL On 5/16/07, William Robb <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > - Original Message - > From: "mike wilson" > Subject: Re: Any one regret upgrading to the K10D? > > > > >> > >> Lucy, our new cat, can send email. She just jumps on the keyb

Re: Any one regret upgrading to the K10D?

2007-05-16 Thread William Robb
- Original Message - From: "mike wilson" Subject: Re: Any one regret upgrading to the K10D? >> >> Lucy, our new cat, can send email. She just jumps on the keyboard when >> i'm not looking and som epoor sap, get a weird email, he things is >>

Re: Any one regret upgrading to the K10D?

2007-05-16 Thread David J Brooks
On 5/16/07, mike wilson <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > > > > From: "David J Brooks" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> > > Date: 2007/05/16 Wed PM 12:10:25 GMT > > To: "Pentax-Discuss Mail List" > > Subject: Re: Any one regret upgrading to the

Re: Any one regret upgrading to the K10D?

2007-05-16 Thread Godfrey DiGiorgi
On May 16, 2007, at 12:02 AM, Ralf R. Radermacher wrote: > [K10D] Wish it were at least possible to have the shutter times on the > rear wheel in M mode. Funny ... I hadn't really noticed that I can't customize the edials in M mode... ! G -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http

Re: Any one regret upgrading to the K10D?

2007-05-16 Thread mike wilson
> > From: "David J Brooks" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> > Date: 2007/05/16 Wed PM 12:10:25 GMT > To: "Pentax-Discuss Mail List" > Subject: Re: Any one regret upgrading to the K10D? > > On 5/16/07, David Savage <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > &g

Re: Any one regret upgrading to the K10D?

2007-05-16 Thread David J Brooks
Fixed, like the cat.:-) Dave On 5/16/07, David Savage <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > On 5/16/07, David J Brooks <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > Try lugging around a D2H and 70-200 VR F 2.8 all day. You'll begin to > > LOVE the K10D.:-) > > As long as you don't have the FA* 80-200mm f2.8 mounted (at

Re: Any one regret upgrading to the K10D?

2007-05-16 Thread David Savage
On 5/16/07, David J Brooks <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > Try lugging around a D2H and 70-200 VR F 2.8 all day. You'll begin to > LOVER the K10D.:-) As long as you don't have the FA* 80-200mm f2.8 mounted (at 1.51kg). And Dave, "LOVER the K10D"? I'm pretty sure that's illegal in most places (not on

Re: Any one regret upgrading to the K10D?

2007-05-16 Thread David J Brooks
On 5/16/07, David Savage <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > I'm just trying to get the Old Man used to a camera with buttons. > > My Dad's the kind of guy who can read an electrical schematic, and > build the circuit, but try and get him to send an email & he is > completely lost. Lucy, our new cat, can

Re: Any one regret upgrading to the K10D?

2007-05-16 Thread David J Brooks
Try lugging around a D2H and 70-200 VR F 2.8 all day. You'll begin to LOVER the K10D.:-) I still have my istD as well as the K10D. I find the K10D fits very well in my hand, and the istD now feels to small. Dave On 5/15/07, Paul <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > Hi, > > I upgraded from a ist*DS to th

Re: Any one regret upgrading to the K10D?

2007-05-16 Thread Alexandru-Cristian Sarbu
On 5/16/07, Tim Øsleby <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > I went the same route, from DS to K10D. > I liked the DS, but it made me feel like a man at the end of a good camera. > > I'm not looking back. Kept both. And are still using the DS a bit. Different > cameras for different needs and use. > Have yo

Re: Any one regret upgrading to the K10D?

2007-05-16 Thread Tim Øsleby
Typo Mostly Harmless - Original Message - From: "Paul" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> To: "Pentax-Discuss Mail List" Sent: Wednesday, May 16, 2007 2:33 AM Subject: Any one regret upgrading to the K10D? > Hi, > > I upgraded from a ist*DS to the K10D and act

Re: Any one regret upgrading to the K10D?

2007-05-16 Thread Paul Stenquist
The size of the K10D doesn't bother me in the least. I still have one of my *istD cameras but never use it. The K10D is far superior in so many ways, and it actually fits my hands better -- with the battery grip. Paul On May 15, 2007, at 8:33 PM, Paul wrote: > Hi, > > I upgraded from a ist*

Re: Any one regret upgrading to the K10D?

2007-05-16 Thread Thibouille
No Paul, no way. I upgraded from D -> K10. Maybe I would have kept a DS/DL/K100D but the D had a very bad grip compared to the K10 (big hands I know). Even with the K10, I'm better with the grip, even pulling off the battery not to add weight. I never regreated it. An additional cheap DL for "jus

Re: Any one regret upgrading to the K10D?

2007-05-16 Thread Ralf R. Radermacher
Paul <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > I upgraded from a ist*DS to the K10D and actually kind of regret it now. > I think i preferred the ergonomics and size of the DS. Sure the files > are better from the K10D, but its a lot bigger and heavier to lug around. Same here. The DS just felt like it had be

Re: Any one regret upgrading to the K10D?

2007-05-15 Thread David Savage
I'm just trying to get the Old Man used to a camera with buttons. My Dad's the kind of guy who can read an electrical schematic, and build the circuit, but try and get him to send an email & he is completely lost. I've told him I'll process his photos for him. Baby steps :-) Cheers, Dave On 5/

Re: Any one regret upgrading to the K10D?

2007-05-15 Thread Digital Image Studio
On 16/05/07, Tom Simpson <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > Oh, the camera stuff, he picked up on pretty quickly, but it is the > processing and printing that his giving him (and me) fits. > > I think the answer for most of his problems is called Picasa2. Absolutely, Picasa2 still takes a little tuitio

Re: Any one regret upgrading to the K10D?

2007-05-15 Thread William Robb
- Original Message - From: "Paul" Subject: Any one regret upgrading to the K10D? > Hi, > > I upgraded from a ist*DS to the K10D and actually kind of regret it now. > I think i preferred the ergonomics and size of the DS. Sure the files > are better fro

Re: Any one regret upgrading to the K10D?

2007-05-15 Thread Tom Simpson
I intend to get a K10D sometime this year. I have every intention of keeping my DS. If nothing else, I view it as being a camera that I can afford to have in the car with me at all times (along with a nice assortment of good but old glass courtesy of eBay), and afford to have stolen, destroyed,

Re: Any one regret upgrading to the K10D?

2007-05-15 Thread Tom Simpson
That is where my DL went when I got my new/old stock DS body in February. Dad has been climbing a rather steep learning curve these past few months, and it has been trying my patience at least as much as his. :-) Oh, the camera stuff, he picked up on pretty quickly, but it is the processing and

Re: Any one regret upgrading to the K10D?

2007-05-15 Thread David Savage
I have no regrets. And my D feels like a children's toy when I pick it up now. I've recently given my D to my technophobe Dad. I was showing him the basics of how to operate it the other day. That was fun :-) :-) Cheers, Dave On 5/16/07, Paul <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > Hi, > > I upgraded f

Any one regret upgrading to the K10D?

2007-05-15 Thread Walter Hamler
A week or so ago I was going to go out shooting pics. Long story short I ended up wandering around the backyard with the istDL and the 100mm Cosina Macro. I was quickly taken by just how small the DL is compared to the K10, now fitted with the Battery Grip. However, I still lean toward the K10

Re: Any one regret upgrading to the K10D?

2007-05-15 Thread Fernando
I never really end up selling the *istDS, would have gotten just 30% of what I paid two years ago at the most, and even though the K10D is the only camera I use regularly, I can see your point, the *istDS is way lighter and smaller. In fact with a pancake the *istDS is going to replace my P&S on va

Re: Any one regret upgrading to the K10D?

2007-05-15 Thread Bruce Dayton
I upgraded from *istD and I don't regret it at all. Size is a little bigger, but fits my hand well. The DS was much faster at processing the images after the shot than the D, so the overall slowness of the D is painful to go back to - I still have one body as a backup, but am strongly considering

Re: Any one regret upgrading to the K10D?

2007-05-15 Thread Godfrey DiGiorgi
Not I. The K10D is a perfect match to my hand and needs. I've kept one of the *ist DS bodies and it does good service still for tabletop work. G On May 15, 2007, at 5:33 PM, Paul wrote: > I upgraded from a ist*DS to the K10D and actually kind of regret it > now. > I think i preferred the e

Any one regret upgrading to the K10D?

2007-05-15 Thread Paul
Hi, I upgraded from a ist*DS to the K10D and actually kind of regret it now. I think i preferred the ergonomics and size of the DS. Sure the files are better from the K10D, but its a lot bigger and heavier to lug around. Any way, just thinking out loud. Paul -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List