Re: Artificial film grain (different)...

2001-09-22 Thread Harry Baughman
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Re: Artificial film grain (different)...

2001-09-22 Thread Mike Johnston
Mark R. wrote: > in last month's Popular Photography that one of their > monthly reader's photos had artificially enhanced grain that was achieved by > shooting a normal slide, projecting it onto *sandpaper* Why in the world wouldn't someone just choose a film with a grain pattern he liked and l

Re: Artificial film grain (different)...

2001-09-22 Thread Chris Brogden
Hard to say. :) I'd be interested in seeing how a slow speed film with the grain filter would compare to a faster film in terms of quality. I'd have to know how the grain enhancer would affect the look of the image. Might not be a huge difference. chris On Sat, 22 Sep 2001, Shel Belinkoff w

Re: Artificial film grain (different)...

2001-09-22 Thread Shel Belinkoff
Umm, Chris, might not the grain enhancer degrade things a bit - probably more than a good quality ND filter, don'tcha think? Chris Brogden wrote: > > True enough. Some may not be partial to using a faster film, especially > with the attendant degradation from the ND filter, but that could work

Re: Artificial film grain (different)...

2001-09-21 Thread David A. Mann
Shel Belinkoff writes: > Color film? What do i know, but I'm sure there are at least several > color films that offer moderate to course grain. I've been known to deliberately underexpose 400 or 800 colour print film to get a grainy effect. It looks horrible but can be useful. You have to be

Re: Artificial film grain (different)...

2001-09-21 Thread Chris Brogden
True enough. Some may not be partial to using a faster film, especially with the attendant degradation from the ND filter, but that could work for others. chris On Fri, 21 Sep 2001, Shel Belinkoff wrote: > Of course, one could always use a neutral density filter on a higher > speed film and g

Re: Artificial film grain (different)...

2001-09-21 Thread Aaron Reynolds
"Bill D. Casselberry" wrote: > > May I humbly suggest Fuji 1600 > (Oh, you said "moderate grain", sorry ;^)Fore!!8^D ) ...or Konica 3200. As a photography teacher once said to me, in a thick Danish accent, "These grains appear to be the size of chickens." To be t

Re: Artificial film grain (different)...

2001-09-21 Thread Aaron Reynolds
Robert Harris wrote: > Does it really work? Or is it all hype? The idea was so silly that I just passed on it after reading the brochure. -Aaron - This message is from the Pentax-Discuss Mail List. To unsubscribe, go to http://www.pdml.net and follow the directions. Don't forget to visit the P

Re: Artificial film grain (different)...

2001-09-21 Thread Bruce Dayton
Yeah, the Kodak Max films. Especially the 800 speed. Bruce Dayton Sacramento, CA - Original Message - From: "Shel Belinkoff" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> To: <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> Sent: Friday, September 21, 2001 10:39 AM Subject: Re: Artificial film grain (different

Re: Artificial film grain (different)...

2001-09-21 Thread Robert Harris
Aaron Reynolds wrote: > Rob Brigham wrote: > >>Is this idea of any interest? >> > > One of our distributors tried to get me interested in it... I passed. Did you test it forts? Does it really work? Or is it all hype? Bob Harris - This message is from the Pentax-Discuss Mail List. To unsubs

Re: Artificial film grain (different)...

2001-09-21 Thread Chris Brogden
On Fri, 21 Sep 2001, Shel Belinkoff wrote: > Tri-X, Agfapan 400, Kodak 2475 Recording Film, Ilford HP-5 and HP-5+, > Neopan 1600, Delta 3200, Bergger 200, etc. And then there are > numerous developers and developing techniques that can contribute to > grain. Well, to be fair to them the nice th

Re: Artificial film grain (different)...

2001-09-21 Thread Bill D. Casselberry
Shel wrote: > What a crock ... > Color film? What do i know, but I'm sure there are at least several > color films that offer moderate to course grain. May I humbly suggest Fuji 1600 (Oh, you said "moderate grain", sorry ;^)Fore!!8^D ) Bil

Re: Artificial film grain (different)...

2001-09-21 Thread Juan J. Buhler
So you have to keep the thing inside the camera for the whole roll. Great idea. And I like this phrase: > transforming ordinary images into extraordinary works of art. Whohoo! I'm calling the MOMA right now! j -- ---

Re: Artificial film grain (different)...

2001-09-21 Thread Shel Belinkoff
Of course, one could always use a neutral density filter on a higher speed film and get the grain plus some of the benefits (wider aperture, slower shutter speeds) of a slower, finer grained film. Chris Brogden wrote: > Well, to be fair to them the nice thing about an add-on grain filter is > th

Re: Artificial film grain (different)...

2001-09-21 Thread Aaron Reynolds
Rob Brigham wrote: > > Is this idea of any interest? One of our distributors tried to get me interested in it... I passed. -Aaron - This message is from the Pentax-Discuss Mail List. To unsubscribe, go to http://www.pdml.net and follow the directions. Don't forget to visit the Pentax Users' G

Re: Artificial film grain (different)...

2001-09-21 Thread Shel Belinkoff
What a crock ... > Due to the industry progression of films > towards extremely fine grain, photographers > have often had to do without the pleasing > visual effect a coarse or moderately grained > image can invoke. [...] Many photographers have > wanted to add the mood and drama of grainine