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Subject: Re: MZ-S (WAS: Re: Camera prices on Ebay)
on 6.05.2005 14:13, Pål Jensen at [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
Sure, the eyepiece is of plastic but isn't that true for all slr's
made today?
Eypiece in MZ-S is made of coated
on 6.05.2005 14:13, Pål Jensen at [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
Sure, the eyepiece is of plastic but isn't that true for all slr's made today?
Eypiece in MZ-S is made of coated glass - I've checked this by knocking at
that with metal screwdriver - produced sound couldn't come from plastic part
:-)
Sylwiusz wrote:
on 6.05.2005 14:13, Pål Jensen at [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
Sure, the eyepiece is of plastic but isn't that true for all slr's made today?
Eypiece in MZ-S is made of coated glass - I've checked this by knocking at
that with metal screwdriver - produced sound couldn't come
on 8.05.2005 0:12, Henri Toivonen at [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
Good way to check.. NOT!
Don't you ever do that again! *pulls ear*
Ahhh, I was naughty :-) But careful too, so I didn't cause any damage
:-)
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Best regards
Sylwek
Alan wrote:
Well, at least my cheapo ZX-10 has the steal sheet that you mention as well (I
happened to remove the bottom for some reason), and that sheet itself is mounted
onto the plastic structure. But my major concern is the camera mount which is
mounted onto the plastic mirror box. Now don't
I've seen a dismantled MZ-5n and it is totally plastic.
Mine must be the rare one with metal inside then, I also have an even rarer
MZ-3 with metal inside 8)
John
John Whittingham escribió:
I've seen a dismantled MZ-5n and it is totally plastic.
Mine must be the rare one with metal inside then, I also have an even rarer
MZ-3 with metal inside 8)
According to Richard Hunecke's books about the MZ-5/3/5n (sorry if I
have mispelled his name, I have one of
According to Richard Hunecke's books about the MZ-5/3/5n (sorry if I
have mispelled his name, I have one of my cats on my lap and cannot
go to check it) the internal chassis of those cameras is made of
metal
(light alloy diecast).
Yes correct, I'm not sure of the exact material but I'd
Carlos wrote:
According to Richard Hunecke's books about the MZ-5/3/5n (sorry if I have
mispelled his name, I have one of my cats on my lap and cannot go to check it)
the internal chassis of those cameras is made of metal (light alloy diecast).
REPLY:
Really? I could swear it was an MZ-5 I
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From: Pål Jensen
Subject: Re: MZ-S (WAS: Re: Camera prices on Ebay)
even the cogs in the film transport that were made of different colors as
well - red, yellow, blue etc..
At least we now know that Nguyen isn't colour blind
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--- John Whittingham [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
I've seen a dismantled MZ-5n and it is totally plastic.
Mine must be the rare one with metal inside then, I also have an even rarer
MZ-3 with metal inside 8)
Ouch...
Alan Chan
http://www.pbase.com/wlachan
Yahoo! Mail
Stay
--- John Francis [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
A quick trip to Colorado restored it to full health, albeit at
a price which was a significant portion of what a new camera
would have cost me (and slightly less than the deductible on
my insurance policy).
Yeah having the whole mirror assembly
Pål Jensen escribió:
Carlos wrote:
According to Richard Hunecke's books about the MZ-5/3/5n (sorry if I have
mispelled his name, I have one of my cats on my lap and cannot go to check it)
the internal chassis of those cameras is made of metal (light alloy diecast).
REPLY:
Really? I could swear
Mine must be the rare one with metal inside then, I also have an even
rarer
MZ-3 with metal inside 8)
Ouch...
Meant in good humour, no offence.
John
Hi Pål:
The author says so in his book, that under the plastic panels there
is a robust diecast body, with a very stable shape, and torsion
resistant. Anyway this is only a second translation of a bad translation.
I haven't dismantled my MZ-5 or MZ-S, I am not so curious, and I
don't
All I did (as I also used to do with my MZ-5) was putting a rubber
string cut out from a waste black bicycle inner tyre around the eyecup
to prevent loosing this. Some day I discovered that the eyecup of the
MZ-S got loose on one side because of the broken plastic edge.
Henk
-Original
Pål Jensen wrote:
Carlos wrote:
According to Richard Hunecke's books about the MZ-5/3/5n (sorry if I have
mispelled his name, I have one of my cats on my lap and cannot go to check it)
the internal chassis of those cameras is made of metal (light alloy diecast).
REPLY:
Really? I could swear it
On May 7, 2005, at 12:13 AM, Pål Jensen wrote:
Sure, the eyepiece is of plastic but isn't that true for all slr's
made today?
A plastic eyepiece isn't such a bad thing. My glasses have an
antireflective coating which is nowhere near as robust as SMC. The
reason I also had contact lenses
--- P. J. Alling [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
I'm pretty sure that the PZ/Z-1p and PZ/Z-1 have rigid metal frames,
probably the other models in the PZ/P series as well. Pentax has built a
number of cameras using this method.
Yeah, I am aware the Z-1p has metal inner structure which is visible
--- John Francis [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
I can attest, from first-hand experience, that a sufficiently hard impact
will yank the lens mount clean out of a MZ-S body.
You mean you actually kill a MZ-S?
Alan Chan
http://www.pbase.com/wlachan
Yahoo! Mail
Stay connected,
except it's not titanium but magnesium alloy.
Herb
- Original Message -
From: P. J. Alling [EMAIL PROTECTED]
To: pentax-discuss@pdml.net
Sent: Wednesday, May 04, 2005 11:56 PM
Subject: Re: Camera prices on Ebay
The MZ-S is supposed to have a rigid internal frame much like the *ist-D
Alan wrote:
But talking about the MZ-S, I have been told it's
actually a
plastic camera inside, just like other MZ/ZX bodies, with magnesium alloy shells
only.
REPLY:
This is utter bullshit. I've seen the internals of my MZ-S and it is not
remotely built like other MZ-series which are
Alan wrote:
But if I remember
correctly, Pal
emphasized many times that the MZ-S was the strongest built Pentax 135 body.
But if
it's inner structure was the same/similar as other MZ/ZX bodies, how was that
possible?
REPLY:
It isn't possible...
Alan:
Not that I am allergic to plastic g,
Alan wrote:
I don't know about that, I have never seen any picture indicates MZ-S has the
metal
frame like D/DS. I think D is the first Pentax body with such design. There is
no
practical difference whether to use metal or plastic mount if it was fastened
onto a
plastic structure. MZ-S carries
John Francis wrote:
On Wed, May 04, 2005 at 09:31:21PM -0700, Alan Chan wrote:
--- P. J. Alling [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
The MZ-S is supposed to have a rigid internal frame much like the *ist-D
if I remember correctly, so let's see. Rigid inner metal support,
plastic core, outer shell of
11:56 PM
Subject: Re: Camera prices on Ebay
The MZ-S is supposed to have a rigid internal frame much like the
*ist-D if I remember correctly, so let's see. Rigid inner metal
support, plastic core, outer shell of titanium. Sounds like modern
Tank armor to me.
--
A man's only as old
--- Pål Jensen [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
If you remove the magnesium bottom plate of the MZ-S you'll find a steel plate
underneath it bolted onto the ultra rigid outer shell. On this the tripod
socket
are mounted. As the strong steel plate is as long as the bottom of the camera
this possibly
--- Alan Chan [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
But really, I like my plastic
ZX-10 quite a lot. It's lighter with less vibration
I know the metal vs plastic debates are almost as consuming as the ones
on film vs digital, and no final answer is possible, but I will chime
in here and say I am very glad
that there are weak plastic parts.
Henk
-Original Message-
From: Pål Jensen [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
Sent: 05 May, 2005 1:45 PM
To: pentax-discuss@pdml.net
Subject: Re: MZ-S (WAS: Re: Camera prices on Ebay)
Only parts not critical for strenght are made of plastic.
Pål
--- UncaMikey [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
A small and light plastic camera is a joy for me to handle and operate,
and consequently I am more likely to have the camera with me when I
want it.
I absolutely agree, especially when smaller lighter lenses are used. Just that
when a heavy lens is
--- Henk Terhell [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
I had a problem of very simply breaking off a part of the plastic edge
of the viewfinder. The rubber eyecup did no longer stay on. I glued on
the broken part and am hoping that the eyecup will hold. Though this may
not be critical part of the MZ-S,
Nine months ago I sold my (P)Z1-P for GBP200.00 to a private buyer. Today
one went on UK Ebay with a standard zoom for GBP94.00. Film camera prices
have dropped alarmingly over the last year. Only the LX and the MZ-S are
now achieving more than a small fraction of their cost price.
John
Nine months ago I sold my (P)Z1-P for GBP200.00 to a private buyer.
Today one went on UK Ebay with a standard zoom for GBP94.00. Film
camera prices have dropped alarmingly over the last year. Only the
LX and the MZ-S are now achieving more than a small fraction of
their cost price.
--- John Whittingham [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
Nine months ago I sold my (P)Z1-P for GBP200.00 to a private buyer.
Today one went on UK Ebay with a standard zoom for GBP94.00. Film
camera prices have dropped alarmingly over the last year. Only the
LX and the MZ-S are now achieving
On 4 May 2005 at 17:09, Alan Chan wrote:
But talking about the MZ-S, I have been told it's
actually a plastic camera inside, just like other MZ/ZX bodies, with magnesium
alloy shells only. The guy who disassembled his own Z-1p MZ-S, specifically
said the metal mount was fastened on a
--- Rob Studdert [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
Did Pentax ever suggest that the MZ-S was a full metal body? I don't see the
problem with using plastics as long as they are dimensionally stable, of the
required strength and good mechanical design.
Actually I have never been able to find any
The MZ-S is supposed to have a rigid internal frame much like the *ist-D
if I remember correctly, so let's see. Rigid inner metal support,
plastic core, outer shell of titanium. Sounds like modern Tank armor to
me.
Alan Chan wrote:
--- John Whittingham [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
Nine
--- P. J. Alling [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
The MZ-S is supposed to have a rigid internal frame much like the *ist-D
if I remember correctly, so let's see. Rigid inner metal support,
plastic core, outer shell of titanium. Sounds like modern Tank armor to
me.
I don't know about that, I
On Wed, May 04, 2005 at 09:31:21PM -0700, Alan Chan wrote:
--- P. J. Alling [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
The MZ-S is supposed to have a rigid internal frame much like the *ist-D
if I remember correctly, so let's see. Rigid inner metal support,
plastic core, outer shell of titanium. Sounds
I'm pretty sure that the PZ/Z-1p and PZ/Z-1 have rigid metal frames,
probably the other models in the PZ/P series as well. Pentax has built a
number of cameras using this method.
Alan Chan wrote:
--- P. J. Alling [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
The MZ-S is supposed to have a rigid internal frame
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