Re: Correction F104 not T-38

2014-02-05 Thread Daniel J. Matyola
The F-104 was a "cool" looking aircraft. It earned it reputation, however, as the "lead sled." When the F-4 came around, with mach 2 speed, longer endurance and better reliability, the F-104 faded into the background. Dan Matyola http://www.pentaxphotogallery.com/danieljmatyola On Wed, Feb 5,

Re: Correction F104 not T-38

2014-02-05 Thread knarf
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=u6K4iSxET6g&feature=youtube_gdata_player Memories of youth. Cheers, frank On 5 February, 2014 8:54:45 AM EST, mike wilson wrote: >On 04/02/2014, John wrote: >> I know the F104 sucks at >> "low & slow" & has a glide ratio that compares unfavorably to a >brick, >

Re: Correction F104 not T-38

2014-02-05 Thread knarf
That's scary! Cheers, frank On 5 February, 2014 8:54:45 AM EST, mike wilson wrote: >On 04/02/2014, John wrote: >> I know the F104 sucks at >> "low & slow" & has a glide ratio that compares unfavorably to a >brick, > >Some folks might take that as a challenge. > >https://www.youtube.com/watch?v

Re: Correction F104 not T-38

2014-02-05 Thread mike wilson
On 04/02/2014, John wrote: > I know the F104 sucks at > "low & slow" & has a glide ratio that compares unfavorably to a brick, Some folks might take that as a challenge. https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=jyBDEG9dg-Q -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/

Re: Correction F104 not T-38

2014-02-04 Thread Rick Womer
But at least it was a hot dancer: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=EBAEF5HioSU Rick On Feb 4, 2014, at 02:27 , Chris Mitchell wrote: > Yep, I thought "Starfighter" when I saw it. I recall that it was > dogged by safety issues and a bribery scandal. > > Chris > > On 3 February 2014 21:52, Larry

Re: Correction F104 not T-38

2014-02-04 Thread knarf
You're right about the ejector seat, Mark. And John's right about it's low level (in)capabilites. It was designed as a high altitude, high speed fighter - bomber. It did that very well setting numerous altitude, climbing and speed records. I had an uncle in the RCAF who spent time in Germany i

Re: Correction F104 not T-38

2014-02-04 Thread Mark Roberts
John Francis wrote: >On Tue, Feb 04, 2014 at 07:27:02AM +, Chris Mitchell wrote: >> Yep, I thought "Starfighter" when I saw it. I recall that it was >> dogged by safety issues . . . > >Many (possibly even most) of which were caused by pilots >insufficiently familiar with the aircraft, or oper

Re: Correction F104 not T-38

2014-02-04 Thread John Francis
On Tue, Feb 04, 2014 at 07:27:02AM +, Chris Mitchell wrote: > Yep, I thought "Starfighter" when I saw it. I recall that it was > dogged by safety issues . . . Many (possibly even most) of which were caused by pilots insufficiently familiar with the aircraft, or operating with payloads and/or f

Re: Correction F104 not T-38

2014-02-04 Thread Eric Featherstone
At least, I'm /assuming/ that's what was being referred to. On 4 February 2014 16:53, John wrote: > Ok, the Lockheed bribery scandal, not just a specific F104 bribery > scandal. That's why it didn't click. > > > On 2/4/2014 11:11 AM, Eric Featherstone wrote: >> >> http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Loc

Re: Correction F104 not T-38

2014-02-04 Thread John
Ok, the Lockheed bribery scandal, not just a specific F104 bribery scandal. That's why it didn't click. On 2/4/2014 11:11 AM, Eric Featherstone wrote: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Lockheed_bribery_scandals On 4 February 2014 16:09, John wrote: I was crazy about airplanes when I was a kid. I k

Re: Correction F104 not T-38

2014-02-04 Thread John
I was crazy about airplanes when I was a kid. I know the F104 sucks at "low & slow" & has a glide ratio that compares unfavorably to a brick, but I don't remember any bribery scandal. On 2/4/2014 2:27 AM, Chris Mitchell wrote: Yep, I thought "Starfighter" when I saw it. I recall that it was dog

Re: Correction F104 not T-38

2014-02-04 Thread Eric Featherstone
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Lockheed_bribery_scandals On 4 February 2014 16:09, John wrote: > I was crazy about airplanes when I was a kid. I know the F104 sucks at > "low & slow" & has a glide ratio that compares unfavorably to a brick, > but I don't remember any bribery scandal. > > > > On 2/4

Re: Correction F104 not T-38

2014-02-03 Thread Chris Mitchell
Yep, I thought "Starfighter" when I saw it. I recall that it was dogged by safety issues and a bribery scandal. Chris On 3 February 2014 21:52, Larry Colen wrote: > I stand corrected, N825NA is a two seat F104, not a T-38. > > I had done a quick google search on t-38 and the tail number, and pic

Correction F104 not T-38

2014-02-03 Thread Larry Colen
I stand corrected, N825NA is a two seat F104, not a T-38. I had done a quick google search on t-38 and the tail number, and pictures of that plane showed up, so I did not dig as deeply as I should in my research. My apologies. -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mail