Re: FTZ flash assumptions.

2006-12-06 Thread mike wilson
> > From: Peter McIntosh <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> > Date: 2006/12/06 Wed AM 11:13:13 GMT > To: Pentax-Discuss Mail List > Subject: Re: FTZ flash assumptions. > > mike wilson wrote: > > Indeed. Should have been the 200 series. 200S autoflash, 200T same wit

Re: FTZ flash assumptions.

2006-12-06 Thread Peter McIntosh
mike wilson wrote: >> mike wilson wrote: >> > > I've used mine on the LX and Z1-p when I didn't want to carry a large flash. > It's a bit limited, having a fixed head, but plenty of urge for small > locations. Stofen softens things nicely. > > AFAIU, it should not work in TTL with the DL.

Re: FTZ flash assumptions.

2006-12-06 Thread Peter McIntosh
Thibouille wrote: > No, you are using Programmed auto mode. > It works in auto mode but sets the lens to one of the possible auto > seeting automaticaly. > It means that if the flash can only operate auto at f/4, that you will > ALWAYS end takeing the picture at f/4 ... annoying isn't it ? > > Thib

Re: FTZ flash assumptions.

2006-12-06 Thread Thibouille
No, you are using Programmed auto mode. It works in auto mode but sets the lens to one of the possible auto seeting automaticaly. It means that if the flash can only operate auto at f/4, that you will ALWAYS end takeing the picture at f/4 ... annoying isn't it ? Thibault Massart aka Thibouille ---

Re: FTZ flash assumptions.

2006-12-06 Thread Peter McIntosh
mike wilson wrote: > Indeed. Should have been the 200 series. 200S autoflash, 200T same with > added TTL. > Hm... I have an AF200T. It works with my ist-DL quite well in program mode - sets apreture according to power setting on flash (with appropriate lens), and restricts shutter spe

Re: Re: FTZ flash assumptions.

2006-12-06 Thread mike wilson
Indeed. Should have been the 200 series. 200S autoflash, 200T same with added TTL. > > From: "Bob Sullivan" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> > Date: 2006/12/06 Wed AM 01:45:09 GMT > To: "Pentax-Discuss Mail List" > Subject: Re: FTZ flash assumptions. > > not

Re: FTZ flash assumptions.

2006-12-05 Thread Bob Sullivan
not so the AF220... No sensor on flash. On 12/5/06, mike wilson <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > John Whittingham wrote: > > >>You don't need that. The AF280/220/400T will all work on anything > >>that you can set the aperture on and that will fire them. They have > >>a built-in sensor to tell them

Re: FTZ flash assumptions.

2006-12-05 Thread mike wilson
John Whittingham wrote: >>NNS is only about £150. > > > You can still get them new then, best lasting flash I ever had, got with a > Super A outfit I bought years ago. Used right up to MZ-3 and I can even use > it on the *ist D Like I say, you can use it on any camera that you can control the

Re: FTZ flash assumptions.

2006-12-05 Thread John Whittingham
> NNS is only about £150. You can still get them new then, best lasting flash I ever had, got with a Super A outfit I bought years ago. Used right up to MZ-3 and I can even use it on the *ist D John --

Re: FTZ flash assumptions.

2006-12-05 Thread mike wilson
John Whittingham wrote: >>You don't need that. The AF280/220/400T will all work on anything >>that you can set the aperture on and that will fire them. They have >>a built-in sensor to tell them when to quench. Probably others in >>that series, too, like the 200 and 160. > > > There's life

Re: FTZ flash assumptions.

2006-12-05 Thread John Whittingham
automatically. John -- Original Message --- From: Gonz <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> To: Pentax-Discuss Mail List Sent: Tue, 05 Dec 2006 11:35:56 -0600 Subject: Re: FTZ flash assumptions. > John, your signature is really long, and its doubly long when > someone quotes your message and

Re: FTZ flash assumptions.

2006-12-05 Thread Adam Maas
John Whittingham wrote: >>I know you can still buy the AF400T new at B&H. I'm not sure about >>the 280. Paul > > > Probably for the MF users still using film I guess, it's a great flash IMHO. > > > > John I've considered buying one, but its massive and the build quality is very low. I'll s

Re: FTZ flash assumptions.

2006-12-05 Thread Gonz
rk with the digital cameras. > > > Nor me. > > John > > > -- Original Message --- > From: Kostas Kavoussanakis <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> > To: Pentax-Discuss Mail List > Sent: Tue, 5 Dec 2006 11:06:20 + (GMT) > Subject: Re: FTZ flash assumptions. >

Re: FTZ flash assumptions.

2006-12-05 Thread John Whittingham
05 Dec 2006 15:33:29 +0000 Subject: Re: FTZ flash assumptions. > I know you can still buy the AF400T new at B&H. I'm not sure about > the 280. Paul > -- Original message -- > From: "John Whittingham" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> > &

Re: FTZ flash assumptions.

2006-12-05 Thread pnstenquist
I know you can still buy the AF400T new at B&H. I'm not sure about the 280. Paul -- Original message -- From: "John Whittingham" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> > > You don't need that. The AF280/220/400T will all work on anything > > that you can set the aperture on and that

Re: FTZ flash assumptions.

2006-12-05 Thread Thibouille
A 280T should work fine in analog TTL mode as well as program auto mode. Thibault Massart aka Thibouille -- *ist-D,Z1,SuperA,KX,MX, P30t and KR-10x ;) ... -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net

Re: FTZ flash assumptions.

2006-12-05 Thread John Whittingham
> You don't need that. The AF280/220/400T will all work on anything > that you can set the aperture on and that will fire them. They have > a built-in sensor to tell them when to quench. Probably others in > that series, too, like the 200 and 160. There's life in the AF280T yet then, how lon

Re: FTZ flash assumptions.

2006-12-05 Thread mike wilson
> > From: Kostas Kavoussanakis <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> > Date: 2006/12/05 Tue AM 11:06:20 GMT > To: Pentax-Discuss Mail List > Subject: Re: FTZ flash assumptions. > > On Tue, 5 Dec 2006, John Whittingham wrote: > > > No idea, isn't it nmissing the conne

Re: FTZ flash assumptions.

2006-12-05 Thread mike wilson
> > From: "John Whittingham" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> > Date: 2006/12/05 Tue AM 10:28:25 GMT > To: Pentax-Discuss Mail List > Subject: Re: FTZ flash assumptions. > > > As an auto? > > No idea, isn't it nmissing the connection fot the digital p

Re: FTZ flash assumptions.

2006-12-05 Thread mike wilson
> > From: "John Whittingham" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> > Date: 2006/12/05 Tue AM 09:39:02 GMT > To: Pentax-Discuss Mail List > Subject: Re: FTZ flash assumptions. > > > Looks like the 330 will > > only fire at full power on those bodies (or am I missi

Re: FTZ flash assumptions.

2006-12-05 Thread John Whittingham
work with the digital cameras. Nor me. John -- Original Message --- From: Kostas Kavoussanakis <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> To: Pentax-Discuss Mail List Sent: Tue, 5 Dec 2006 11:06:20 + (GMT) Subject: Re: FTZ flash assumptions. > On Tue, 5 Dec 2006, John Whittingham wrote: &

Re: FTZ flash assumptions.

2006-12-05 Thread Brian Walters
t the digital pin? > > John > > > -- Original Message --- > From: Kostas Kavoussanakis <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> > To: Pentax-Discuss Mail List > Sent: Tue, 5 Dec 2006 09:53:21 + (GMT) > Subject: Re: FTZ flash assumptions. > > > On Tue, 5 Dec

Re: FTZ flash assumptions.

2006-12-05 Thread Kostas Kavoussanakis
On Tue, 5 Dec 2006, John Whittingham wrote: > No idea, isn't it nmissing the connection fot the digital pin? Not great with electronics, but I am guessing that all a flash needs so as to operate in self-quenching auto is something to tell it "flash". That's the middle round contact and the grou

Re: FTZ flash assumptions.

2006-12-05 Thread John Whittingham
> As an auto? No idea, isn't it nmissing the connection fot the digital pin? John -- Original Message --- From: Kostas Kavoussanakis <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> To: Pentax-Discuss Mail List Sent: Tue, 5 Dec 2006 09:53:21 + (GMT) Subject: Re: FTZ flash assumptions

Re: FTZ flash assumptions.

2006-12-05 Thread John Whittingham
, 5 Dec 2006 09:35:30 + (GMT) Subject: Re: FTZ flash assumptions. > On Mon, 4 Dec 2006, John Whittingham wrote: > > > Thanks for that Adam on Boz's site the DS2 is listed as "HS" whatever that > > is, > > Look for High-Speed flash in > > http:/

Re: FTZ flash assumptions.

2006-12-05 Thread Kostas Kavoussanakis
On Tue, 5 Dec 2006, John Whittingham wrote: > It's looking that way, not to worry. I'm not sure how the AF280T would > perform, I think it's analogue only so would work with the *ist D but not > later bodies that are digital only such as the KD's. As an auto? Kostas -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail

Re: FTZ flash assumptions.

2006-12-05 Thread John Whittingham
[EMAIL PROTECTED]> To: "Pentax-Discuss Mail List" Sent: Tue, 5 Dec 2006 08:55:52 +0100 Subject: Re: FTZ flash assumptions. > Little summary: > > ist-D: offers TTL (both old analog TTL and digital TTL) both external > and RTF flash.Offers P-TTL. > > ist-DS/DS2

Re: FTZ flash assumptions.

2006-12-05 Thread John Whittingham
only such as the KD's. John -- Original Message --- From: Brian Walters <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> To: Pentax-Discuss Mail List Sent: Mon, 04 Dec 2006 19:30:23 -0800 Subject: Re: FTZ flash assumptions. > Yes - I find the AF280T more versatile than the 330. At least its

Re: FTZ flash assumptions.

2006-12-05 Thread John Whittingham
t table is absent from the AF- 360FGZ manual I have. Maybe an early manual? Regards, John -- Original Message --- From: "Jostein Øksne" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> To: "Pentax-Discuss Mail List" Sent: Tue, 5 Dec 2006 09:42:32 +0100 Subject: Re: FTZ flash assu

Re: FTZ flash assumptions.

2006-12-05 Thread Kostas Kavoussanakis
On Mon, 4 Dec 2006, John Whittingham wrote: > Thanks for that Adam on Boz's site the DS2 is listed as "HS" whatever that > is, Look for High-Speed flash in http://kmp.bdimitrov.de/technology/hot-shoe/index.html Kostas -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/list

Re: FTZ flash assumptions.

2006-12-05 Thread Jostein Øksne
There are also some nice tables in the instruction manual for the AF540FGZ, laying out the compatibilty level with just about all Pentax cameras. You can easily infer which generation of flash automation each camera has. :-) The document is here: http://www.pentaxslr.com/files/scms_docs/AF540FGZ_w

Re: FTZ flash assumptions.

2006-12-05 Thread Thibouille
Little summary: ist-D: offers TTL (both old analog TTL and digital TTL) both external and RTF flash.Offers P-TTL. ist-DS/DS2: offers TTL (both old analog TTL and digital TTL) but only external flash. Internal is PTTL or full power. Works quite better than D TTL. Offers PTTL as well. ist-DL/DL2/K

Re: FTZ flash assumptions.

2006-12-04 Thread Brian Walters
Yes - I find the AF280T more versatile than the 330. At least its got an inbuilt sensor to cut off the light, which should allow it to be used with the KD bodies in non-TTL mode. Looks like the 330 will only fire at full power on those bodies (or am I missing something?) Cheers Brian +

Re: FTZ flash assumptions.

2006-12-04 Thread John Whittingham
> The D does TTL flash with all flashes including the RTF. The Ds > does TTL flash with external flashes, (seems to work better than the > D most of the time). I expect that the DS2 does it as well. I'm > not sure about the DL and DL2. Thanks P.J. I'm just trying to thin out some of my kit

Re: FTZ flash assumptions.

2006-12-04 Thread P. J. Alling
The D does TTL flash with all flashes including the RTF. The Ds does TTL flash with external flashes, (seems to work better than the D most of the time). I expect that the DS2 does it as well. I'm not sure about the DL and DL2. John Whittingham wrote: > Hi > > I breifly caught the thread reg

Re: FTZ flash assumptions.

2006-12-04 Thread John Whittingham
"P-TTL" which I know about John -- Original Message --- From: Adam Maas <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> To: Pentax-Discuss Mail List Sent: Mon, 04 Dec 2006 16:37:14 -0500 Subject: Re: FTZ flash assumptions. > TTL ended with the DS2. The DS and DS2 actually do TTL better than &

FTZ flash assumptions.

2006-12-04 Thread John Whittingham
Hi I breifly caught the thread regarding the AF-500FTZ flash on the K10D. I can safely assume that the A-400FTZ and AF-330FTZ will be afflicted with the same problems yes? Did TTL flash end with the *ist D? Can I assume that all FTZ flashes will only work in AUTO if at all with DS, DS2, DL, D

Re: FTZ flash assumptions.

2006-12-04 Thread John Whittingham
m: Brian Walters <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> To: Pentax-Discuss Mail List Sent: Mon, 04 Dec 2006 13:35:58 -0800 Subject: Re: FTZ flash assumptions. > I don't know about the FTZ330 with the K10D (although I suspect it > woun't work in TTL mode). It works in TTL mode on the DS although

Re: FTZ flash assumptions.

2006-12-04 Thread Brian Walters
I don't know about the FTZ330 with the K10D (although I suspect it woun't work in TTL mode). It works in TTL mode on the DS although the manual warns that "image may be underexposed near minimum aperture and overexposed near open aperture in lenses with bright F value". Not sure what "bright F

Re: FTZ flash assumptions.

2006-12-04 Thread Adam Maas
TTL ended with the DS2. The DS and DS2 actually do TTL better than the D. The DL, DL2 and all K series do not do TTL. -Adam John Whittingham wrote: > Hi > > I breifly caught the thread regarding the AF-500FTZ flash on the K10D. I can > safely assume that the A-400FTZ and AF-330FTZ will be aff