Re: K20D pictures

2008-03-08 Thread P. J. Alling
: K20D pictures I didn't do well today, but I did something. The top picture is shot at ISO6400!! With a 100% detail shot below. The studio thing was a 30 second light set-up shot at iso 800, because i am a dork sometimes. Below it is a 100% detail as well. None of the images recieved

Re: K20D pictures

2008-03-07 Thread pnstenquist
Scott opined: That second photo looks pretty darn good. I'm not sure how some of the others couldn't see the banding in the 6400 example. Maybe because we're old and half blind?? :-). Seriously, I see what looks like trim in the shadow area where it moves from dark to light, and I

Re: K20D pictures

2008-03-07 Thread William Robb
- Original Message - From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: Re: K20D pictures Scott opined: That second photo looks pretty darn good. I'm not sure how some of the others couldn't see the banding in the 6400 example. Maybe because we're old and half blind?? :-). I'm wondering

Re: K20D pictures

2008-03-07 Thread William Robb
- Original Message - From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: Re: K20D pictures Scott opined: That second photo looks pretty darn good. I'm not sure how some of the others couldn't see the banding in the 6400 example. Maybe because we're old and half blind?? :-). I'm wondering

Re: K20D pictures

2008-03-07 Thread Adam Maas
seen it in iso800 shots! Sorry, I'll stick with my K100d :) later Owen - Original Message - From: William Robb [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: Pentax-Discuss Mail List pdml@pdml.net Sent: Wednesday, 05 March, 2008 19:37 Subject: K20D pictures I didn't do well

Re: K20D pictures

2008-03-07 Thread pnstenquist
That could be. My monitor is calibrated to match my printer output. It's by no means high contrast. Paul -- Original message -- From: William Robb [EMAIL PROTECTED] - Original Message - From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: Re: K20D pictures Scott

Re: K20D pictures

2008-03-06 Thread Paul Stenquist
Yep. That's the kind of high ISO performance everyone can expect. But some here apparently are placing more weight on the Dubai pictures that were made with pre-release firmware. Strange logic. BTW, I find ACR's default settings are not very accurate in terms of color temperature with the

Re: K20D pictures

2008-03-06 Thread David Savage
On Thu, Mar 6, 2008 at 9:30 PM, Paul Stenquist [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: That's banding? Yes it is. Maybe at pixel peeping levels, but not at normal viewing size and distance. And a K100d pic is far noiser, even at 1600. But to each their own. Paul It's clearly visible at the normal view

Re: K20D pictures

2008-03-06 Thread Paul Stenquist
starting at iso1600. I have even seen it in iso800 shots! Sorry, I'll stick with my K100d :) later Owen - Original Message - From: William Robb [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: Pentax-Discuss Mail List pdml@pdml.net Sent: Wednesday, 05 March, 2008 19:37 Subject: K20D pictures I didn't do well

Re: K20D pictures

2008-03-06 Thread Paul Stenquist
I'm missing it. I like the results shown here. I recall examples from the *istD that showed clear multicolored banding at long exposures in the dark. If there's anything here it doesn't get in the way of the image. At least not for me. Although anything I'm going to shoot at 6400 would

Re: K20D pictures

2008-03-06 Thread Adam Maas
I can't see any banding in the normal view and a bare hint of it at 100%. The 6400 output looks just as good as the excellent output from my D300. -Adam On 3/6/08, Paul Stenquist [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: I'm missing it. I like the results shown here. I recall examples from the *istD that

Re: K20D pictures

2008-03-06 Thread William Robb
- Original Message - From: David Savage Subject: Re: K20D pictures Odd. On the normal view, in the LHS shadow detail is sticks out like proverbial to me. Bill it's your shot. Are you seeing the same thing? Very slightly, don't find it objectionable, and I suspect treating

Re: K20D pictures

2008-03-06 Thread David Savage
Odd. On the normal view, in the LHS shadow detail is sticks out like proverbial to me. Bill it's your shot. Are you seeing the same thing? Cheers, Dave On Thu, Mar 6, 2008 at 10:21 PM, Adam Maas [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: I can't see any banding in the normal view and a bare hint of it at

Re: K20D pictures

2008-03-06 Thread Scott Loveless
William Robb wrote: - Original Message - From: Paul Stenquist Subject: Re: K20D pictures I'm missing it. I like the results shown here. I recall examples from the *istD that showed clear multicolored banding at long exposures in the dark. If there's anything here it doesn't get

Re: K20D pictures

2008-03-06 Thread William Robb
- Original Message - From: Paul Stenquist Subject: Re: K20D pictures I'm missing it. I like the results shown here. I recall examples from the *istD that showed clear multicolored banding at long exposures in the dark. If there's anything here it doesn't get in the way of the image

Re: K20D pictures

2008-03-06 Thread Steve Desjardins
Thee are wonderful results. At 6400, a usable image is a benefit; a nice image is wonderful. And the one at 800 is striking. I'm pleased with my K10D (even the JPEGS) but it's nice to know that Pentax is actually moving forward with its camera design and producing some nice stuff. I really

K20D pictures

2008-03-05 Thread William Robb
I didn't do well today, but I did something. The top picture is shot at ISO6400!! With a 100% detail shot below. The studio thing was a 30 second light set-up shot at iso 800, because i am a dork sometimes. Below it is a 100% detail as well. None of the images recieved any post processing,

Re: K20D pictures

2008-03-05 Thread Owen LaPrath
, 05 March, 2008 19:37 Subject: K20D pictures I didn't do well today, but I did something. The top picture is shot at ISO6400!! With a 100% detail shot below. The studio thing was a 30 second light set-up shot at iso 800, because i am a dork sometimes. Below it is a 100% detail as well. None

Re: K20D pictures

2008-03-05 Thread William Robb
- Original Message - From: Owen LaPrath Subject: Re: K20D pictures The top image has that annoying banding I see in all K20d shots starting at iso1600. I have even seen it in iso800 shots! Sorry, I'll stick with my K100d :) Like I said, it isn't there at 3200, 6400 is only