Re: Lens options for the *ist-DS

2005-05-06 Thread Jan van Wijk
No, but it would be a challenge to make a retrofocus pancake :-) Retrofocus adds weight and size to the design ... On Tue, 3 May 2005 16:25:09 -0700, Shel Belinkoff wrote: Would that be any more difficult than the M24~35, FA 20~35,and other similar short focal length zooms they've already made?

Re: Lens options for the *ist-DS

2005-05-05 Thread Godfrey DiGiorgi
On May 4, 2005, at 10:25 PM, Jens Bladt wrote: Since I got the *ist D 8 months ago, my 20mm has become my most used prime. I have noticed that photo jounalists very often uses a wide angle (24mm), then go very close to the subject. At f8 almost no focussing is needed. Everything will be sharp.

Re: Lens options for the *ist-DS

2005-05-05 Thread David Oswald
Godfrey DiGiorgi wrote: snip The 20mm lens on the D/DS is much like a 28mm was for me on 24x36mm film ... not quite wide enough, not quite normal enough. Of all the lenses I've owned for 35mm SLRs and RFs, the 28mm was always the one I used the least; and the 20mm I bought for the Canon 10D

Re: Lens options for the *ist-DS

2005-05-05 Thread Godfrey DiGiorgi
On May 5, 2005, at 10:17 PM, David Oswald wrote: The Pentax 31mm LTD, however, is a highly sought-after lens, including for 35mm film photographers. An FA20mm lens mounted on an *ist-DS will offer a field of view roughly equivilant to 30mm, which is pretty close to 31. Apparently people find

Re: Lens options for the *ist-DS

2005-05-04 Thread Steve Jolly
Shel Belinkoff wrote: Would that be any more difficult than the M24~35, FA 20~35,and other similar short focal length zooms they've already made? Making a pancake lens in that focal length range would be much more difficult. Apologies if it wasn't clear that that was what I meant. :-) S

Re: Lens options for the *ist-DS

2005-05-04 Thread Steve Jolly
David Oswald wrote: For us laypeople, what do you mean by a retrofocus design, and why do you say a 20 to 30mm lens would have to be that? Sorry to show my ignorance... Think about the simplest possible lens, with just a single element (eg a magnifying glass). Its focal length is the distance

Re: Lens options for the *ist-DS

2005-05-04 Thread Kostas Kavoussanakis
On Wed, 4 May 2005, Rob Studdert wrote: On 3 May 2005 at 8:46, David Oswald wrote: Now I'm working on building my fixed focal length kit. Currently it consists only of the SMC Pentax-FA 50mm f/1.4. I love that lens; its focal length is great as a mild telephoto, very nice for

Re: Lens options for the *ist-DS

2005-05-04 Thread Rob Studdert
On 4 May 2005 at 12:16, Kostas Kavoussanakis wrote: On Wed, 4 May 2005, Rob Studdert wrote: On 3 May 2005 at 8:46, David Oswald wrote: Now I'm working on building my fixed focal length kit. Currently it consists only of the SMC Pentax-FA 50mm f/1.4. I love that lens; its focal

Re: Lens options for the *ist-DS

2005-05-04 Thread John Francis
As I read the chart, they're noty planning a 20-30 zoom; there is expected to be a prime lens released with a focal length somewhere in the 20-30 mm range On Tue, May 03, 2005 at 04:25:09PM -0700, Shel Belinkoff wrote: Would that be any more difficult than the M24~35, FA 20~35,and other

RE: Lens options for the *ist-DS

2005-05-04 Thread Jens Bladt
be a wide angle, wider than 35mm. Then I'd shop for a fast telephoto lens. I seem to use my 105mm a lot lately. Like this: http://www.flickr.com/photos/bladt/12431751/ Regards Jens Lens options for the *ist-DS David Oswald Tue, 03 May 2005 08:50:36 -0700 Setting aside the distinctions between DA, D-FA

Lens options for the *ist-DS

2005-05-03 Thread David Oswald
Setting aside the distinctions between DA, D-FA, FA, F, A, M, and basic K lenses, I wanted to discuss focal lengths for the *ist-DS. I've got my zoom kit pretty much where I want it for now: SMC Pentax-DA 16-45mm f/4 ED AL SMC Pentax-FA 28-105mm f/3.2-4.5 IF AL SMC Pentax-FA 80-320mm

Re: Lens options for the *ist-DS

2005-05-03 Thread jtainter
But then along comes the SMC Pentax-DA 40mm f/2.8 Ltd. This looks like an interesting lens. Its pros are: Compactness, great image quality, great bokeh, solid construction. Its cons are: wide open is only f/2.8, and it doesn't seem to fit into any particular suite of lenses. Dave, at first I

Re: Lens options for the *ist-DS

2005-05-03 Thread David Oswald
jtainter wrote: snip There is also the D FA 100 f2.8 macro for your 50-135 gap. That's a good thought. I almost forgot that I had considered it. My only concern is that I've understood that lens to be, well, a bit too sharp for things like tight portraits. Is that the case?

Re: Lens options for the *ist-DS

2005-05-03 Thread Boris Liberman
Hi! Setting aside the distinctions between DA, D-FA, FA, F, A, M, and basic K lenses, I wanted to discuss focal lengths for the *ist-DS. I've got my zoom kit pretty much where I want it for now: SMC Pentax-DA 16-45mm f/4 ED AL SMC Pentax-FA 28-105mm f/3.2-4.5 IF AL SMC Pentax-FA

Re: Lens options for the *ist-DS

2005-05-03 Thread John Dallman
In article [EMAIL PROTECTED], [EMAIL PROTECTED] (David Oswald) wrote: Now I'm working on building my fixed focal length kit. Currently it consists only of the SMC Pentax-FA 50mm f/1.4. Lovely chunk of glass. But then along comes the SMC Pentax-DA 40mm f/2.8 Ltd. This looks like an

Re: Lens options for the *ist-DS

2005-05-03 Thread Steve Desjardins
I see the DA 40 as an alternative to the 35. The 50 is much faster. The real advantage of the 40 is that it is so small (and has that compact hood) that it fits easily under a coat in bad wether or even in a big coat pocket. It's just flatter than many other SLR/lens combinations. Steven

Re: Lens options for the *ist-DS

2005-05-03 Thread Kostas Kavoussanakis
On Tue, 3 May 2005, David Oswald wrote: I think I've settled on what to work on accumulating: a 35mm f/2, a 135mm f/2.8, and a 20mm f/2.8. This still leaves me with a gap between 50mm and 135mm, but currently there's just nothing in the Pentax assortment I can afford at, say, around 85mm,

Re: Lens options for the *ist-DS

2005-05-03 Thread John Whittingham
Can I recommend the Tamron 90/2.8. You can get a used MF one for 100-120GBP. And the AF version new could be cheaper than the FA100. I'd second that, the new version gets some very positive comments. John

Re: Lens options for the *ist-DS

2005-05-03 Thread Steve Jolly
jtainter wrote: There will be a suite by 2006. Pentax plans at least two more lenses in this series, both limited pancakes. There will be a DA20-30 (exact focal length not yet specified) and a DA 60-70. The latter may meet your need for something above 50 but below 135. Based on recent history, I

Re: Lens options for the *ist-DS

2005-05-03 Thread David Oswald
Steve Jolly wrote: jtainter wrote: There will be a suite by 2006. Pentax plans at least two more lenses in this series, both limited pancakes. There will be a DA20-30 (exact focal length not yet specified) and a DA 60-70. The latter may meet your need for something above 50 but below 135. Based

Re: Lens options for the *ist-DS

2005-05-03 Thread Godfrey DiGiorgi
On May 3, 2005, at 3:12 PM, David Oswald wrote: A 20-30mm lens would have to be a retrofocus design, wouldn't it? I'll be fascinated to see how Pentax manage that one. :-) For us laypeople, what do you mean by a retrofocus design, and why do you say a 20 to 30mm lens would have to be that? Sorry

Re: Lens options for the *ist-DS

2005-05-03 Thread Rob Studdert
On 3 May 2005 at 8:46, David Oswald wrote: Now I'm working on building my fixed focal length kit. Currently it consists only of the SMC Pentax-FA 50mm f/1.4. I love that lens; its focal length is great as a mild telephoto, very nice for portraits. And its so small, yields a bright

Re: Lens options for the *ist-DS

2005-05-03 Thread Joseph Tainter
A 20-30mm lens would have to be a retrofocus design, wouldn't it? I'll be fascinated to see how Pentax manage that one. :-) Not sure what you are asking, Steve. Pentax has wide-angle, retrofocus lenses. Are you suggesting that such can't be a pancake design? I wouldn't know. Anyone else? Joe