it would be that they could 'improve' on the
software though.
Rob
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On Wed, 25 Jul 2001 13:39:26 -0700, Alan Chan wrote
Wouldn't Phillipe's LX meter readjustment attempt count as an LX hack?
Imagine how much easier that would be on a camera that you could access
the software/firmware for...
-Aaron
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You are right if you use the media definition. Real hackers
themselves would disagree with it. But then the media is well
known for changing the meaning of words, sometimes through
stupidity, but usually from malice and a desire for
sensationalism. Hacking means getting into the software, finding
On Thu, 26 Jul 2001 07:44:12 -0400, Tom Rittenhouse wrote:
You are right if you use the media definition. Real hackers
themselves would disagree with it. But then the media is well
known for changing the meaning of words, sometimes through
stupidity, but usually from malice and a desire for
Or back-to-front BG
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Hold it upside down? G
Norm
Alan Chan wrote:
That's cool man, but only one problem... where can
we buy the left hand
cameras?
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Jaroslaw wrote:
EOS-3 and Nikon F100 are labelled as high-end cameras - whatever it
means. Quite distinct from their pro: models you say? Not very much
so: EOS-3 build quality is similar to the old EOS-1N (shutter
durability, sealing and gasketing against the elements, the chassis
etc.)
Bruce wrote:
I haven't had my done yet either. Has anyone in the US that doesn't have an
inside track like Pål had it done yet? How long did it take?
Its not an inside job. They connect it to a computer and download new software. I was
told it took two minutes.
Pål
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Ahh, that goes eom way to allaying my reservations about keeping the
override, but surely that should read If you change to a different ISO
rated film, it goes back to DX setting. I think the DX only conveys
ISO and therefore if I am using MS 100/1000 at 1000 ISO and then put
sensia 100 into the
You could always claim that it was Art.
At 02:57 PM 7/24/2001 -0500, you wrote:
On Tue, 24 Jul 2001, Norman Baugher wrote:
Hold it upside down? G
Norm
Nah, wouldn't work... all your pictures would come back upside down, too,
then you'd have to go into contortions to view them after
So for me, it sounds like sending it to Colorado and back is what will take
the time.
Bruce Dayton
Sacramento, CA
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Sent: Wednesday, July 25, 2001 4:08 AM
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It is true: the mode dial on my EOS-5 got broken after about 4 years
of use and needed to be fixed - and it seems to be extremely common.
The genuine repair is pretty expensive, since it involves exchange of
the whole top plate. However, there are repairers who mend the mode
dial for you for
On Wed, 25 Jul 2001 13:39:26 -0700, Alan Chan wrote:
Perhaps some hackers could improve the software upon it too.
Very unlikely,
'Hackers' is a very broad and vague term, but the ones most often heard of
are people breaking into computer systems or into commercial software
breaking the
More Re: Amateur Photographer MZ-S review
Thank you all for your responses to my response to your responses to my review.
I didn't realise how many of you there are on this site - or how many e-mails I
would come in to this morning.
It is a hazard of my job that people with certain loyalties
Jaroslaw wrote:
You have repeated it several times that features like faster
motordrives are only to be found in much heavier cameras. However it
is possible to built a lightweight camera with fast film transport:
the Canon EOS30 - no matter how crappy it is in terms of build
quality
In a message dated 7/24/01 7:18:22 AM Eastern Daylight Time, [EMAIL PROTECTED]
writes:
The Pentax MZ-S is a well-crafted, wonderfully designed camera with
control layuout of its own. I don't think pro photographers will rush
to grab it (but a few might) mainly because most pros already
Yes, I think you have got the point: since professionals accepted the
T90 despite its ploycarbonate body and lots of electronics they were
ready for the EOS-1. Nikon tried to keep things the old way for
longer and the F4 was more like old-times pro cameras. Failure of
Minolta 9000 was rather
In a message dated 7/24/01 7:27:40 AM Eastern Daylight Time,
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Its bloody unique because its the only lightweight, well built AF slr on
the market. It also sports a totally unique user interface. While cameras
like the EOS3 and F100 + Dynaxx 9 thread the same
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Rob Brigham mused:
[ . . . . ]
I do think you went over the top about the rewind speed as the sport
professional you describe would surely have two bodies or risk missing
the crucial shot even on faster cameras.
Multiple bodies avoid the time spent changing lenses; you
Mike Johnston asked:
And anyway, don't Nikon and Canon consider the EOS 3 and F100
to be top AMATEUR models? Quite distinct from their pro models?
Maybe they might consider them that, but working pros don't.
Last weekend (at the ALMS event at Sears Point) I happened to
notice that Peter
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Rob Brigham mused:
[ . . . . ]
I do think you went over the top about the rewind speed as the sport
professional you describe would surely have two bodies or risk missing
the crucial shot even on faster
Do you mean that the MZ-S has a longer time lag than the PZ-1p? Time
lag has been a dreadful bug of all-electronic cameras for years. I
remember tests carried out in the late eighties on time lags in
various cameras (in AF bodies it was measured with autofocus switched
off). The results were
As you mentioned in a previous post the T90 was more popular among the
professionals than the professional Canon F1.
Interestingly, T90 was not marketed as a professional camera (or from what I
have read at least). That's the reason why so many T90 have broken shutters.
The EOS1 was more of a
*With a pancake lens mounted, the MZ-S simply disappears in a large field
jacket pocket. Try ~that~ with a robo-camera...
You just need a larger pocket. :p
regards,
Alan Chan
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This is an important point as it explains that what you are buyinbg is
not an EOS 3 or F100, but an EOS 30/F80 with far better build and
durability. This is why it is priced between the two. To say it is
expensive based on features along is to miss the point.
As I have always thought, MZ-S is
Although you rais an interesting thought - if you want 5fps you could
hold a body in either hand and fire them simultaneously...!
That's cool man, but only one problem... where can we buy the left hand
cameras?
regards,
Alan Chan
I am just curious.
What is definition of professional camera, by the way ?
To me, it would go on changing always.
From: Pal Jensen [EMAIL PROTECTED]
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To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
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Date: Tue, 24 Jul 2001 14:56:07 +0200
Hold it upside down? G
Norm
Alan Chan wrote:
Although you rais an interesting thought - if you want 5fps you could
hold a body in either hand and fire them simultaneously...!
That's cool man, but only one problem... where can we buy the left hand
cameras?
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You are right about the right pedigree. Once you win the pro market
you can get away with many things.
The public generosity.
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Seems, you got the point:
Pentax cannot win: if pentax will create something unique, others will say:
that sucks just because it does. If pentax will create something similar to
C*** or N*** others will say: that sucks even more because it's copied from
whatever. Maybe digital is a way out.
Another problem, to beat the rewind time you'd need another two MZ-S's to
use while the first two rewind. And two assistants to reload the cameras
and carry all the gear, such as the two FA250-600mm F5.6 lenses.
Todd
At 11:00 AM 7/24/01 -0700, you wrote:
Although you rais an interesting
On Tue, 24 Jul 2001, Norman Baugher wrote:
Hold it upside down? G
Norm
Nah, wouldn't work... all your pictures would come back upside down, too,
then you'd have to go into contortions to view them after they've been
framed and hung on the wall.
chris
Alan Chan wrote:
Although you
:42 PM
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Pål Jensen asked, about the MZ-S:
Did you have yours bug fixed? I haven't mentioned it before
but mine seems more responsive after the bug fix. I though it
was just my imagination
Pål
Not yet - I'm leaving
Yes, that's exactly the case - Canon has used belt drive in EOS 100,
5 , 50 and now in 30. It really keeps the noise to minimum but I
think it is not as durable as geartrain since even Canon kept the
latter in the EOS-3 and EOS-1V. They are fine in machines that do not
see extensive use
In a message dated 7/24/01 12:42:07 PM Eastern Daylight Time,
[EMAIL PROTECTED] writes:
My point
was that if this extra 5 secs is that important then a single body is
stupid and you should change film between races!
Yah, we PJs many times switched film just to be sure not to run out or be
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