Re: More on the K10D Delay

2006-10-27 Thread David Mann
On Oct 28, 2006, at 7:03 AM, Mark Roberts wrote: > If it were *stated* that the information came from Elvis Presley would > that make it so? [...] > It's several steps removed from being information that comes Pentax > USA. And it's subject to misinterpretation and distortion, both > deliberate an

Re: More on the K10D Delay

2006-10-27 Thread David Savage
Joe, I'm sure your familiar with the expression "A watched pot never boils". This is my philosophy WRT the K10D release. It'll get here, when it gets here. My only concession is an email or phone call to my camera store once a month for any new information on price or release date. Dave On 10/28

Re: More on the K10D Delay

2006-10-27 Thread Paul Stenquist
Good. One less K10D sale to slow down my order. I'd like to seet a few more list members over there on the dark side with Cotty:-). Paul On Oct 27, 2006, at 11:40 AM, Cotty wrote: > On 27/10/06, Mark Roberts, discombobulated, unleashed: > >> Quick! Everyone let's switch to Canon now! > > Beat yo

Re: More on the K10D Delay

2006-10-27 Thread Cotty
On 27/10/06, Mark Roberts, discombobulated, unleashed: >Quick! Everyone let's switch to Canon now! Beat you. -- Cheers, Cotty ___/\__ || (O) | People, Places, Pastiche ||=|http://www.cottysnaps.com _ -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdm

Re: More on the K10D Delay

2006-10-27 Thread Lawrence Kwan
On Fri, 27 Oct 2006, Joseph Tainter wrote: > Let's see...What are the possible conclusions?... > 1. > 2. > 3. > 4. . > Or there other possibilities? Yes, maybe a few hundred other possibilities > Take your pick. I don't know which is correct. None would be correct. The source of informa

Re: More on the K10D Delay

2006-10-27 Thread John Forbes
The only intelligent thing to do is to wait and see. Uninformed speculation by the nitwits on DPReview is not a good basis to lose sleep over. And who is going to die because the the camera is late? John On Fri, 27 Oct 2006 19:16:30 +0100, Joseph Tainter <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > Jose

Re: More on the K10D Delay

2006-10-27 Thread Godfrey DiGiorgi
On Oct 27, 2006, at 10:56 AM, Joseph Tainter wrote: > I do think the link was more worthwhile posting here than are > discussions of the Swiss navy. Not sure about that. The Swiss Navy might use a lot of Pentax equipment. Godfrey -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/

Re: More on the K10D Delay

2006-10-27 Thread Adam Maas
Joseph Tainter wrote: > Joseph Tainter wrote: > > > > The plot thickens: > > > > > > http://forums.dpreview.com/forums/read.asp?forum=1036&message=20629729 > > > > > >What? More hearsay from people asking Camera salesmen, who are > > >notoriously not in the know. > > > > > >If you re

More on the K10D Delay

2006-10-27 Thread Joseph Tainter
Joseph Tainter wrote: > > > The plot thickens: > > > >http://forums.dpreview.com/forums/read.asp?forum=1036&message=20629729 > > > >What? More hearsay from people asking Camera salesmen, who are > >notoriously not in the know. > > > >If you read carefully, the information actually comes fr

Re: More on the K10D Delay

2006-10-27 Thread kwaller
> Redefines irony, don't it? I thought irony was a replacement for the knee joint. Kenneth Waller - Original Message - From: "William Robb" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> Subject: Re: More on the K10D Delay > > - Original Message - > From: "Adam

Re: More on the K10D Delay

2006-10-27 Thread Mark Roberts
Joseph Tainter wrote: > > > The plot thickens: > > > >http://forums.dpreview.com/forums/read.asp?forum=1036&message=20629729 > > > >What? More hearsay from people asking Camera salesmen, who are > >notoriously not in the know. > > > >If you read carefully, the information actually comes from Penta

Re: More on the K10D Delay

2006-10-27 Thread K.Takeshita
On 10/27/06 1:44 PM, "Adam Maas", <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: >> The information comes from a Pentax USA rep. This is clearly stated in >> the first paragraph. TammyV is just a customer who was wondering where >> her camera is and learned something unexpected. >> >> Joe >> > > Joe, > > TammyV s

More on the K10D Delay

2006-10-27 Thread Joseph Tainter
Joseph Tainter wrote: > > > The plot thickens: > > > > http://forums.dpreview.com/forums/read.asp?forum=1036&message=20629729 > > > >What? More hearsay from people asking Camera salesmen, who are > >notoriously not in the know. > > > >If you read carefully, the information actually c

Re: More on the K10D Delay

2006-10-27 Thread Adam Maas
Joseph Tainter wrote: > > > The plot thickens: > > > > http://forums.dpreview.com/forums/read.asp?forum=1036&message=20629729 > > > >What? More hearsay from people asking Camera salesmen, who are > >notoriously not in the know. > > > >If you read carefully, the information actually comes fro

More on the K10D Delay

2006-10-27 Thread Joseph Tainter
> > The plot thickens: > > http://forums.dpreview.com/forums/read.asp?forum=1036&message=20629729 > >What? More hearsay from people asking Camera salesmen, who are >notoriously not in the know. > >If you read carefully, the information actually comes from Pentax USA. ??? How do you know tha

Re: More on the K10D Delay

2006-10-27 Thread mike wilson
> > From: "William Robb" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> > Date: 2006/10/27 Fri PM 02:12:29 GMT > To: "Pentax-Discuss Mail List" > Subject: Re: More on the K10D Delay > > > - Original Message ----- > From: "Michael Perham" > Subject:

Re: More on the K10D Delay

2006-10-27 Thread Adam Maas
William Robb wrote: > - Original Message - > From: "Michael Perham" > Subject: RE: More on the K10D Delay > > > >>Of interest to Canadians: I asked Pentax Canada and here is the >>response I >>received: >> >>Hello: >>

Re: More on the K10D Delay

2006-10-27 Thread William Robb
- Original Message - From: "Michael Perham" Subject: RE: More on the K10D Delay > Of interest to Canadians: I asked Pentax Canada and here is the > response I > received: > > Hello: > > We have been informed that World Wide release date is November 30

Re: RE: More on the K10D Delay

2006-10-27 Thread Mark Roberts
Michael Perham wrote: >Of interest to Canadians: I asked Pentax Canada and here is the response I >received: > >Hello: > >We have been informed that World Wide release date is November 30/06 >Once we get them into our warehouse we will ship immediately to the >dealers who have them on order. So

Re: More on the K10D Delay

2006-10-27 Thread Thibouille
LOL 2006/10/27, Paul Stenquist <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>: > Pentax is plotting against all of us. They always have. First it was > the abandonment of the screw mount, which disturbed me greatly. Then > the aperture ring disappeared. Next to go was the aperture simulator. > Now they're trying to hide the

RE: More on the K10D Delay

2006-10-27 Thread Michael Perham
will be sometime in December before I get mine ...on pre-order! Mike. -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Behalf Of Joseph Tainter Sent: October 26, 2006 8:05 PM To: pdml@pdml.net Subject: More on the K10D Delay > The plot thickens: >

Re: More on the K10D Delay

2006-10-27 Thread Mark Roberts
Joseph Tainter wrote: > > The plot thickens: > > http://forums.dpreview.com/forums/read.asp?forum=1036&message=20629729 > >What? More hearsay from people asking Camera salesmen, who are >notoriously not in the know. > >If you read carefully, the information actually comes from Pentax USA. ??? H

Re: More on the K10D Delay

2006-10-27 Thread Mark Roberts
Joseph Tainter wrote: >The plot thickens: > >http://forums.dpreview.com/forums/read.asp?forum=1036&message=20629729 Oh my god, no! Quick! Everyone let's switch to Canon now! -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net

Re: More on the K10D Delay

2006-10-27 Thread John Forbes
It's on DPReview, which is infallible. John On Fri, 27 Oct 2006 09:44:15 +0100, David Mann <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > On Oct 27, 2006, at 3:29 PM, Adam Maas wrote: > >> What? More hearsay from people asking Camera salesmen, who are >> notoriously not in the know. > > It's on an internet foru

Re: More on the K10D Delay

2006-10-27 Thread David Mann
On Oct 27, 2006, at 3:29 PM, Adam Maas wrote: > What? More hearsay from people asking Camera salesmen, who are > notoriously not in the know. It's on an internet forum which means it must be true. - Dave -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_p

Re: More on the K10D Delay

2006-10-26 Thread P. J. Alling
Or maybe they're refitting them all with aperture simulators. Adam Maas wrote: >Joseph Tainter wrote: > > >>The plot thickens: >> >>http://forums.dpreview.com/forums/read.asp?forum=1036&message=20629729 >> >> >> >> > >What? More hearsay from people asking Camera salesmen, who are >notoriou

Re: More on the K10D Delay

2006-10-26 Thread Adam Maas
Joseph Tainter wrote: > > The plot thickens: > > > > http://forums.dpreview.com/forums/read.asp?forum=1036&message=20629729 > > > > > > What? More hearsay from people asking Camera salesmen, who are > notoriously not in the know. > > -Adam > > - > > If you read carefully, the informati

More on the K10D Delay

2006-10-26 Thread Joseph Tainter
> The plot thickens: > > http://forums.dpreview.com/forums/read.asp?forum=1036&message=20629729 > > What? More hearsay from people asking Camera salesmen, who are notoriously not in the know. -Adam - If you read carefully, the information actually comes from Pentax USA. But that may b

Re: More on the K10D Delay

2006-10-26 Thread Stan Halpin
Agree. Corporate communications is an element of marketing, designed to shape consumers' image of a company. Truth, right, motherhood, and apple pie are not factors. To me it matters not a whit why they chose to (or were forced to) change their projected delivery dates. At most, it indicates an

Re: More on the K10D Delay

2006-10-26 Thread William Robb
- Original Message - From: "Adam Maas" Subject: Re: More on the K10D Delay > Joseph Tainter wrote: >> The plot thickens: >> >> http://forums.dpreview.com/forums/read.asp?forum=1036&message=20629729 >> >> > > What? More hearsay from

Re: Re: More on the K10D Delay

2006-10-26 Thread Mike Hamilton
On 10/26/06, Paul Stenquist <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > On Oct 26, 2006, at 9:41 PM, Joseph Tainter wrote: > > > The plot thickens: > > > > http://forums.dpreview.com/forums/read.asp?forum=1036&message=20629729 > Cancel! Cancel! Cancel! Hm. I sense that you're plotting something here, Paul...

Re: More on the K10D Delay

2006-10-26 Thread Adam Maas
Joseph Tainter wrote: > The plot thickens: > > http://forums.dpreview.com/forums/read.asp?forum=1036&message=20629729 > > What? More hearsay from people asking Camera salesmen, who are notoriously not in the know. -Adam -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/

Re: More on the K10D Delay

2006-10-26 Thread Paul Stenquist
Pentax is plotting against all of us. They always have. First it was the abandonment of the screw mount, which disturbed me greatly. Then the aperture ring disappeared. Next to go was the aperture simulator. Now they're trying to hide the fact that the K10D is seriously flawed. I think all

Re: More on the K10D Delay

2006-10-26 Thread Paul Stenquist
Cancel! Cancel! Cancel! On Oct 26, 2006, at 9:41 PM, Joseph Tainter wrote: > The plot thickens: > > http://forums.dpreview.com/forums/read.asp?forum=1036&message=20629729 > > > -- > PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List > PDML@pdml.net > http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net -- PDML Pentax-Di

Re: More on the K10D Delay

2006-10-26 Thread Mike Hamilton
On 10/26/06, Joseph Tainter <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > The plot thickens: > > http://forums.dpreview.com/forums/read.asp?forum=1036&message=20629729 There's a plot? Who is plotting? Against whom? Mike -- Remember to Breathe -- MichaelHamilton.ca -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net

More on the K10D Delay

2006-10-26 Thread Joseph Tainter
The plot thickens: http://forums.dpreview.com/forums/read.asp?forum=1036&message=20629729 -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net

Re: More on the K10D Delay

2006-10-26 Thread John Francis
On Thu, Oct 26, 2006 at 11:10:41AM -0700, Joseph Tainter wrote: > If this post is correct, it confirms what some of us suspected: Pentax's > stated reason for the delay was a fabrication: If ... You seem overly eager to believe anything bad about Pentax, Joseph. I see nothing but unconfirmed sp

Re: More on the K10D Delay

2006-10-26 Thread Godfrey DiGiorgi
I just can't believe that people would take the hearsay about "stated reason for the delay" seriously. Joe comments as if Pentax were lying to him personally, and poses a note which seems to indicate that we should all be shocked and horrified from some lofty position of moral superiority.

RE: More on the K10D Delay

2006-10-26 Thread Tom C
They call that spin now Joe. Or possibly a simple miscommunication. ;-) Tom C. Original Message Follows From: Joseph Tainter <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> Reply-To: Pentax-Discuss Mail List To: pdml@pdml.net Subject: More on the K10D Delay Date: Thu, 26 Oct 2006 11:10:41 -0700 If thi

More on the K10D Delay

2006-10-26 Thread Joseph Tainter
If this post is correct, it confirms what some of us suspected: Pentax's stated reason for the delay was a fabrication: http://forums.dpreview.com/forums/read.asp?forum=1036&message=20624601 I don't mind that Pentax delayed the camera to get it right. I do mind being lied to. Joe -- PDML Pen