Re: OT: Lions, Tigers and Bears

2011-10-21 Thread Darren Addy
A story The Onion just couldn't ignore: http://www.theonion.com/articles/lions-tigers-killed-in-ohio,26428/ Darren Addy Kearney, Nebraska -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly abo

Re: OT: Lions, Tigers and Bears

2011-10-20 Thread John Sessoms
From: frank theriault On Thu, Oct 20, 2011 at 1:23 AM, P. J. Alling wrote: People are allowed to make bad decisions, that's what being free is all about. If I decide to kill a fellow human being, it's more than a bad decision it's also (in most cases) illegal. Most of us agree that laws that

Re: OT: Lions, Tigers and Bears

2011-10-20 Thread John Francis
On Thu, Oct 20, 2011 at 01:57:59PM -0400, John Sessoms wrote: > > But, it's not unfair to question whether the authorities even > bothered to look very hard to see if there might be other workable > alternatives to slaughter. There's certainly little indication of > such in any of the news reports

Re: OT: Lions, Tigers and Bears

2011-10-20 Thread Steven Desjardins
gt; http://www.pentaxphotogallery.com/kennethwaller > > - Original Message - From: "P. J. Alling" > > > Subject: Re: OT: Lions, Tigers and Bears > > >> People are allowed to make bad decisions, that's what being free is all >> about.  Hopefully they'

Re: OT: Lions, Tigers and Bears

2011-10-20 Thread John Sessoms
From: Keith Whaley P. J. Alling wrote: People are allowed to make bad decisions, that's what being free is all about. Hopefully they'll make more good decisions than bad. In this case the authorities seem to have been a bit trigger happy and the owner of the animals seems to have been more than

Re: OT: Lions, Tigers and Bears

2011-10-20 Thread frank theriault
On Thu, Oct 20, 2011 at 1:23 AM, P. J. Alling wrote: > People are allowed to make bad decisions, that's what being free is all > about. If I decide to kill a fellow human being, it's more than a bad decision it's also (in most cases) illegal. Most of us agree that laws that restrict our right to

Re: OT: Lions, Tigers and Bears

2011-10-20 Thread Ken Waller
Kenneth Waller http://www.pentaxphotogallery.com/kennethwaller - Original Message - From: "Keith Whaley" Subject: Re: OT: Lions, Tigers and Bears P. J. Alling wrote: People are allowed to make bad decisions, that's what being free is all about. Hopefully they&#x

Re: OT: Lions, Tigers and Bears

2011-10-20 Thread Ken Waller
risk. Kenneth Waller http://www.pentaxphotogallery.com/kennethwaller - Original Message - From: "P. J. Alling" Subject: Re: OT: Lions, Tigers and Bears People are allowed to make bad decisions, that's what being free is all about. Hopefully they'll make more go

Re: OT: Lions, Tigers and Bears

2011-10-20 Thread John Sessoms
Made me very angry. Mainly frustration because the guy who's responsible is already beyond retribution. From: Ann Sanfedele Very upsetting. ann On 10/19/2011 18:25, Steven Desjardins wrote: That's just sad. On Wed, Oct 19, 2011 at 3:17 PM, John Sessoms wrote: Really fucked up story: http

Re: OT: Lions, Tigers and Bears

2011-10-20 Thread P. J. Alling
I don't know, I doubt he was thinking that far in advance. He decided to kill himself but couldn't leave the animals caged. You see that when unthinking animal rights activists simply release captive animals. They don't consider what will happen to them once they're released. On 10/20/2011

Re: OT: Lions, Tigers and Bears

2011-10-20 Thread John Sessoms
I wish it had been possible to recapture the animals, but I understand why the local law enforcement didn't think they could do that. I don't like what the local law enforcement did. They didn't think they had any other choice. All of the choices were bad, so I won't fault them for making the

Re: OT: Lions, Tigers and Bears

2011-10-20 Thread Stan Halpin
On Oct 20, 2011, at 12:15 AM, John Francis wrote: > On Wed, Oct 19, 2011 at 04:50:38PM -0700, Joseph McAllister wrote: >> Chilled me somewhat too. But I understand the parameters under which >> decisions had to be made. >> >> The blame lies, in my mind, entirely with the owner, >> for not think

Re: OT: Lions, Tigers and Bears

2011-10-20 Thread Ann Sanfedele
KEith, he shot himself after letting all the animals out! ann On 10/20/2011 07:14, Keith Whaley wrote: P. J. Alling wrote: People are allowed to make bad decisions, that's what being free is all about. Hopefully they'll make more good decisions than bad. In this case the authorities seem to ha

Re: OT: Lions, Tigers and Bears

2011-10-20 Thread Steven Desjardins
If a single person had died or was even badly injured by these animals because the police hesitated to kill them, the police would have been destroyed in the court of public opinion. I wish they could have figured out a way to capture the animals, but that is beyond what most municipalities are wi

Re: OT: Lions, Tigers and Bears

2011-10-20 Thread Matthew Hunt
On Thu, Oct 20, 2011 at 7:14 AM, Keith Whaley wrote: > The keeper of that wild animal compound just up and DIED, nobody knows why. All of the reports I've seen, including the current version of the NY Times story, indicate that the keeper released the animals himself, and then committed suicide.

Re: OT: Lions, Tigers and Bears

2011-10-20 Thread Keith Whaley
P. J. Alling wrote: People are allowed to make bad decisions, that's what being free is all about. Hopefully they'll make more good decisions than bad. In this case the authorities seem to have been a bit trigger happy and the owner of the animals seems to have been more than a little irresponsib

Re: OT: Lions, Tigers and Bears

2011-10-19 Thread P. J. Alling
People are allowed to make bad decisions, that's what being free is all about. Hopefully they'll make more good decisions than bad. In this case the authorities seem to have been a bit trigger happy and the owner of the animals seems to have been more than a little irresponsible. On 10/20/20

Re: OT: Lions, Tigers and Bears

2011-10-19 Thread Doug Brewer
On 10/20/11 1:00 AM, Darren Addy wrote: I believe firmly that: When lions and tigers and bears are outlawed, only outlaws will have lions and tigers and bears. Darren Addy Kearney, Nebraska earlier tonight I saw a tweet that said something along the lines of, "I wish the Ohio cops would quit

Re: OT: Lions, Tigers and Bears

2011-10-19 Thread Darren Addy
I believe firmly that: When lions and tigers and bears are outlawed, only outlaws will have lions and tigers and bears. Darren Addy Kearney, Nebraska -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link

Re: OT: Lions, Tigers and Bears

2011-10-19 Thread John Francis
On Wed, Oct 19, 2011 at 04:50:38PM -0700, Joseph McAllister wrote: > Chilled me somewhat too. But I understand the parameters under which > decisions had to be made. > > The blame lies, in my mind, entirely with the owner, > for not thinking any further out of his mind than his own state. Well,

Re: OT: Lions, Tigers and Bears

2011-10-19 Thread Ann Sanfedele
Very upsetting. ann On 10/19/2011 18:25, Steven Desjardins wrote: That's just sad. On Wed, Oct 19, 2011 at 3:17 PM, John Sessoms wrote: Really fucked up story: http://www.nytimes.com/2011/10/20/us/police-kill-dozens-of-animals-freed-from-ohio-preserve.html -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List

Re: OT: Lions, Tigers and Bears

2011-10-19 Thread Steven Desjardins
That's just sad. On Wed, Oct 19, 2011 at 3:17 PM, John Sessoms wrote: > Really fucked up story: > > http://www.nytimes.com/2011/10/20/us/police-kill-dozens-of-animals-freed-from-ohio-preserve.html > > > -- > PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List > PDML@pdml.net > http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdm

OT: Lions, Tigers and Bears

2011-10-19 Thread John Sessoms
Really fucked up story: http://www.nytimes.com/2011/10/20/us/police-kill-dozens-of-animals-freed-from-ohio-preserve.html -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow t