John Francis wrote:
On Mon, Jan 07, 2008 at 03:47:06PM -0800, [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
The Sky's interesting, as it's a straight rebadge of the Opel
Speedster (Same styling and drivetrain) unlike the fairly extensively
modified Solstice (which is based on the Speedster, but not
identical).
I believe it was a home grown abomination.
Christian wrote:
John Francis wrote:
On Mon, Jan 07, 2008 at 03:47:06PM -0800, [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
The Sky's interesting, as it's a straight rebadge of the Opel
Speedster (Same styling and drivetrain) unlike the fairly extensively
Christian wrote:
Wasn't the Aztek another Opel derivative?
P. J. Alling wrote:
I believe it was a home grown abomination.
Yeah, I just googled it AFTER I sent my message to the list...
The Aztek had among the highest CSI (Customer Satisfaction Index)
scores in its class, and won the
GM should have given up on attempting styling with the Buick Roadmaster
Stationwagon of 1991-96. Probably they should have given up before
that, but the Roadmaster, (or as I always thought of it the
:Toadmaster, should have capped it).
Christian wrote:
Christian wrote:
Wasn't the
And they're doing good work today. GM car designs come from all over the world.
The newest Cadillacs have won several international awards, and I expect the
Impala will do likewise. The latest Corvette is quite nice as well. Some, like
Pontiac, are targeted at a demographic that is less
I high CSI score only means that the people who bought it like it. From all the
reports I've heard, it was a high quality vehicle. I believe it's the same
platform as the Buick Renegade. Unfortunately, the styling didn't have broad
appeal. I found it butt ugly.
Paul
-- Original
Saturn was a market failure and the changes were driven by its
effective elimination from viability by 2003. It is now effectively
the replacement for Oldsmobile in market segment and is selling far
better than it ever did when semi-independant.
-Adam
On 1/8/08, P. J. Alling [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Same platform as the even uglier Buick Rendevous. At least the Aztek
looked unique. But owners seem to love the things, ugly as they are.
Very practical vehicle. I'd consider owning one, they get decent
mileage, are surprisingly reliable for a Pontiac, have plenty of
space, some nice features
Saturn was a market failure because GM management, after Roger Smith
left the chairmanship, starved if of capitol. The original cars sold
well. Much of like Pentax, Saturn sold as many units as they could
produce, but they could never produce enough units with just one plant,
and no capital
The Saturn division originally built very good little cars, a great
first cut on subcompacts. GM simply starved them of money until they
could be made over in the image of the parent company. Now Saturns are
just plastic clad GM extrusions. They build keepers but the fish keeps
rotting
The Sky's interesting, as it's a straight rebadge of the Opel
Speedster (Same styling and drivetrain) unlike the fairly extensively
modified Solstice (which is based on the Speedster, but not
identical).
Wait, you mean the Sky and Solstice aren't the exact same rebadged car?
Are you certain?
Opel has been a GM mark since 1931, apart from brief government
control during the Nazi era. GM initially invested in Opel in 1929,
buying 80%, and bought the rest in 1931. Several Opel designs have
made it over here under different names, starting with the Cadillac
Catera/Saturn L100.
The Sky
Also, Saturn seems to be essentially the US branding for Opel as of
this year, much as Vauxhall is in the UK and some low-end Holdens are
in Australia. All of the current Saturn line are similar or identical
to Opels but manufacture is shared. THe Astra and Sky/GT are
identical, while the Aura and
On Mon, Jan 07, 2008 at 03:47:06PM -0800, [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
The Sky's interesting, as it's a straight rebadge of the Opel
Speedster (Same styling and drivetrain) unlike the fairly extensively
modified Solstice (which is based on the Speedster, but not
identical).
Wait, you mean
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