Re: OT - old Kodak film identification?

2005-11-20 Thread Mark Roberts
Paul Sorenson [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: graywolf wrote: LOL! Nitrocellulose, AKA, gun cotten is classified as an explosive. BTW they use it for paint too. Gives a much nicer look than Acrilics paint does. It is still the preferred finish for guitar and other instrument sound boards as it

Re: OT - old Kodak film identification?

2005-11-20 Thread graywolf
As a note, unless it is deteriating, or chopped up into fine particles nitrocellulose is not as bad as it sounds in this thread. You would probably have a hard time igniting that billiard ball mentioned for instance. But once burning it would be almost impossible to put out. graywolf

Re: OT - old Kodak film identification?

2005-11-20 Thread P. J. Alling
A web search turns up a mixed bag about the explosive properties of Nitrocellulose billiard balls, some seem to think that the paints used to color them might have acted as a primer... Anyone interested in experimenting? graywolf wrote: As a note, unless it is deteriating, or chopped up into

Re: OT - old Kodak film identification?

2005-11-20 Thread Bob Shell
On Nov 20, 2005, at 5:01 PM, P. J. Alling wrote: A web search turns up a mixed bag about the explosive properties of Nitrocellulose billiard balls, some seem to think that the paints used to color them might have acted as a primer... Anyone interested in experimenting? Might have been

Re: OT - old Kodak film identification?

2005-11-19 Thread Bob Shell
On Nov 18, 2005, at 10:17 PM, Scott Loveless wrote: Most likely, it means that the film has an Estar (or whatever Kodak called it back then) base instead of a celluloid base. The safety film ignited at a higher temperature than the older celluloid stuff. Thus - safety film. As far as EI

Re: OT - old Kodak film identification?

2005-11-19 Thread Bob Shell
On Nov 18, 2005, at 11:10 PM, graywolf wrote: It just means it is not nitrocellulosebased film. Consumer film pretty much stopped using that before WWII, but motion picture film still used nitrocellulose into the late fifties. Nitrate base films were preferred because cellulose nitrate

Re: OT - old Kodak film identification?

2005-11-19 Thread Scott Loveless
Thanks for the correction, Bob. I actually did a bit of googling, instead of just recalling from memory, and found that the Cellulose acetate has an ignition temp of 800F and the Estar base 900F. I'm assuming the cellulose nitrate ignited at much lower temperatures. On 11/19/05, Bob Shell

Re: OT - old Kodak film identification?

2005-11-19 Thread William Robb
- Original Message - From: Scott Loveless Subject: Re: OT - old Kodak film identification? Thanks for the correction, Bob. I actually did a bit of googling, instead of just recalling from memory, and found that the Cellulose acetate has an ignition temp of 800F and the Estar base

Re: OT - old Kodak film identification?

2005-11-19 Thread Bob Shell
On Nov 19, 2005, at 2:51 PM, Scott Loveless wrote: Thanks for the correction, Bob. I actually did a bit of googling, instead of just recalling from memory, and found that the Cellulose acetate has an ignition temp of 800F and the Estar base 900F. I'm assuming the cellulose nitrate ignited at

Re: OT - old Kodak film identification?

2005-11-19 Thread Powell Hargrave
On Nov 19, 2005, at 2:51 PM, Scott Loveless wrote: Thanks for the correction, Bob. I actually did a bit of googling, instead of just recalling from memory, and found that the Cellulose acetate has an ignition temp of 800F and the Estar base 900F. I'm assuming the cellulose nitrate ignited

Re: OT - old Kodak film identification?

2005-11-19 Thread graywolf
LOL! Nitrocellulose, AKA, gun cotten is classified as an explosive. BTW they use it for paint too. Gives a much nicer look than Acrilics paint does. It is still the preferred finish for guitar and other instrument sound boards as it give a much mellower sound. graywolf

Re: OT - old Kodak film identification?

2005-11-19 Thread Bob Shell
On Nov 19, 2005, at 9:05 PM, graywolf wrote: LOL! Nitrocellulose, AKA, gun cotten is classified as an explosive. BTW they use it for paint too. Gives a much nicer look than Acrilics paint does. It is still the preferred finish for guitar and other instrument sound boards as it give a much

Re: OT - old Kodak film identification?

2005-11-19 Thread P. J. Alling
Some of it already has... Bob Shell wrote: On Nov 19, 2005, at 9:05 PM, graywolf wrote: LOL! Nitrocellulose, AKA, gun cotten is classified as an explosive. BTW they use it for paint too. Gives a much nicer look than Acrilics paint does. It is still the preferred finish for guitar and

Re: OT - old Kodak film identification?

2005-11-19 Thread P. J. Alling
Nitrocellulose was originally used as a substitute for ivory in billiard balls... Bob Shell wrote: On Nov 19, 2005, at 9:05 PM, graywolf wrote: LOL! Nitrocellulose, AKA, gun cotten is classified as an explosive. BTW they use it for paint too. Gives a much nicer look than Acrilics paint

Re: OT - old Kodak film identification?

2005-11-19 Thread Paul Sorenson
The dope used to stiffen the fabric on early airplanes was cellulose nitrate and highly flammable. Many a WWI aviator chose to jump to his death sans parachute rather than burn to death in a flaming aircraft. -P graywolf wrote: LOL! Nitrocellulose, AKA, gun cotten is classified as

OT - old Kodak film identification?

2005-11-18 Thread Mat Maessen
I'm in the middle of scanning some 6x6 negatives that my late father took back in the mid to late 60's, possible very early 70's. It's color film, I assume C41 process, or a predecessor to C41 (has the same orange tint, scanner color-corrects it pretty well). The only marking on the margin of the

Re: OT - old Kodak film identification?

2005-11-18 Thread Scott Loveless
On 11/18/05, Mat Maessen [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: I'm in the middle of scanning some 6x6 negatives that my late father took back in the mid to late 60's, possible very early 70's. It's color film, I assume C41 process, or a predecessor to C41 (has the same orange tint, scanner color-corrects

Re: OT - old Kodak film identification?

2005-11-18 Thread William Robb
- Original Message - From: Mat Maessen Subject: OT - old Kodak film identification? The only marking on the margin of the film is Kodak Safety Film. Anyone have any ideas about what kind of Kodak film it might be? It is Kodacolour-X. Process C-22. William Robb

Re: OT - old Kodak film identification?

2005-11-18 Thread graywolf
It just means it is not nitrocellulosebased film. Consumer film pretty much stopped using that before WWII, but motion picture film still used nitrocellulose into the late fifties. graywolf http://www.graywolfphoto.com Idiot Proof == Expert Proof --- Scott

Re: OT - old Kodak film identification?

2005-11-18 Thread Mat Maessen
Excellent. Thank you Bill. -Mat (still scanning... digital ICE takes a LONG time on a 6x6 negative) On 11/18/05, William Robb [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: It is Kodacolour-X. Process C-22. William Robb