Re: OT Fitting your CCD to a format, interesting tech

2004-12-25 Thread Herb Chong
Saturday, December 25, 2004 11:50 AM Subject: Re: OT Fitting your CCD to a format, interesting tech > and a Camera body twice the size from Nikon or Canon...

Re: OT Fitting your CCD to a format, interesting tech

2004-12-25 Thread Peter J. Alling
;Paul Stenquist" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> To: Sent: Friday, December 24, 2004 10:07 PM Subject: Re: OT Fitting your CCD to a format, interesting tech Perhaps you should shoot with an Optio? -- I can understand why mankind hasn't given up war. During a war you get to drive tanks

Re: OT Fitting your CCD to a format, interesting tech

2004-12-24 Thread Herb Chong
4, 2004 10:07 PM Subject: Re: OT Fitting your CCD to a format, interesting tech > Perhaps you should shoot with an Optio?

Re: OT Fitting your CCD to a format, interesting tech

2004-12-24 Thread Paul Stenquist
004 5:41 PM Subject: Re: OT Fitting your CCD to a format, interesting tech The *istD is too large? I couldn't imagine using it without the battery grip. it's the smallest SLR digital in the world. No offense, but how big are your hands?

Re: OT Fitting your CCD to a format, interesting tech

2004-12-24 Thread Herb Chong
that's irrelevant. i have to carry it where the *ist film camera is marginal in size and weight. Herb - Original Message - From: <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> To: Sent: Friday, December 24, 2004 5:41 PM Subject: Re: OT Fitting your CCD to a format, interesting tech > The *ist

Re: OT Fitting your CCD to a format, interesting tech

2004-12-24 Thread Peter J. Alling
Height, I think not. Width, yes. Depth, it's deeper... Shel Belinkoff wrote: Isn't the istds smaller? Shel [Original Message] From: <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> To: Date: 12/24/2004 2:42:53 PM Subject: Re: OT Fitting your CCD to a format, interesting tech The *istD is too large? I

Re: OT Fitting your CCD to a format, interesting tech

2004-12-24 Thread Peter J. Alling
Height, I think not. Width, yes. Depth, it's deaper... Shel Belinkoff wrote: Isn't the istds smaller? Shel [Original Message] From: <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> To: Date: 12/24/2004 2:42:53 PM Subject: Re: OT Fitting your CCD to a format, interesting tech The *istD is too large? I

Re: OT Fitting your CCD to a format, interesting tech

2004-12-24 Thread Shel Belinkoff
Isn't the istds smaller? Shel > [Original Message] > From: <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> > To: > Date: 12/24/2004 2:42:53 PM > Subject: Re: OT Fitting your CCD to a format, interesting tech > > The *istD is too large? I couldn't imagine using it without the batter

Re: OT Fitting your CCD to a format, interesting tech

2004-12-24 Thread pnstenquist
Message - > From: "Rob Studdert" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> > To: > Sent: Friday, December 24, 2004 6:01 PM > Subject: Re: OT Fitting your CCD to a format, interesting tech > > > > On 22 Dec 2004 at 6:36, Herb Chong wrote: > > > > > a centimeter

Re: OT Fitting your CCD to a format, interesting tech

2004-12-24 Thread Herb Chong
it adds thickness to the camera and i think the *istD is already too large. Herb... - Original Message - From: "Rob Studdert" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> To: Sent: Friday, December 24, 2004 6:01 PM Subject: Re: OT Fitting your CCD to a format, interesting tech > On 22 Dec

Re: OT Fitting your CCD to a format, interesting tech

2004-12-24 Thread Rob Studdert
On 22 Dec 2004 at 6:36, Herb Chong wrote: > a centimeter is much larger than you think. even a couple of millimeters is a > lot. if you want to use your old lenses, you have a fixed distance in front of > the sensor that will only grow by adding a light pipe. The light-pipe appears optically to h

Re: OT Fitting your CCD to a format, interesting tech

2004-12-22 Thread Raimo K
Subject: Re: OT Fitting your CCD to a format, interesting tech - Original Message - From: "Raimo K" Subject: Re: OT Fitting your CCD to a format, interesting tech Like larger size films are more sensitive? Raimo, are you serious? William Robb

Re: OT Fitting your CCD to a format, interesting tech

2004-12-22 Thread William Robb
- Original Message - From: "Raimo K" Subject: Re: OT Fitting your CCD to a format, interesting tech Like larger size films are more sensitive? Raimo, are you serious? William Robb

Re: OT Fitting your CCD to a format, interesting tech

2004-12-22 Thread Graywolf
ive? All the best! Raimo K Personal photography homepage at: http://www.uusikaupunki.fi/~raikorho - Original Message - From: "Rob Studdert" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> To: Sent: Wednesday, December 22, 2004 12:30 AM Subject: Re: OT Fitting your CCD to a format, interesting tech Wh

Re: OT Fitting your CCD to a format, interesting tech

2004-12-22 Thread Raimo K
Like larger size films are more sensitive? All the best! Raimo K Personal photography homepage at: http://www.uusikaupunki.fi/~raikorho - Original Message - From: "Rob Studdert" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> To: Sent: Wednesday, December 22, 2004 12:30 AM Subject: Re: OT Fitti

Re: OT Fitting your CCD to a format, interesting tech

2004-12-22 Thread Herb Chong
ubject: RE: OT Fitting your CCD to a format, interesting tech > Herb, Herb, Herb, > > AFAIK this is still a concept. I can't tell if the illustrations are photos > of prototypes or if they are CGI. If it ever does get implemented it'll be > a long time before custo

Re: OT Fitting your CCD to a format, interesting tech

2004-12-22 Thread Cotty
On 22/12/04, Rob Studdert, discombobulated, unleashed: >As long as the spatial resolution is higher than the Nyquist frequency of the >sensor it shouldn't be a problem, in fact if it were specially designed it >could effectively replace the birefringent filter. He's been at the Tooheys again.

RE: OT Fitting your CCD to a format, interesting tech

2004-12-21 Thread Anthony Farr
Herb, Herb, Herb, AFAIK this is still a concept. I can't tell if the illustrations are photos of prototypes or if they are CGI. If it ever does get implemented it'll be a long time before customers hold cameras, so I wouldn't fret about the technicalities just yet. But remember that most 35mm S

Re: OT Fitting your CCD to a format, interesting tech

2004-12-21 Thread Rob Studdert
On 21 Dec 2004 at 22:46, Herb Chong wrote: > the fibers would have to be such that there isn't any gaps over pixels. > also, would force the back to be much thicker. i for one won't go for it. As long as the spatial resolution is higher than the Nyquist frequency of the sensor it shouldn't be a

Re: OT Fitting your CCD to a format, interesting tech

2004-12-21 Thread Herb Chong
esday, December 21, 2004 9:57 AM Subject: RE: OT Fitting your CCD to a format, interesting tech > Indeed, using the Fused Fibre Optic components an 8MP 1.6x APS sensor could be > transformed to cover the area of a 24x36mm frame and effectively increase its > ISO. It's a pity is not likely

Re: OT Fitting your CCD to a format, interesting tech

2004-12-21 Thread Rob Studdert
On 21 Dec 2004 at 16:25, Steve Jolly wrote: > Frantisek wrote: > > I am sorry I don't understand why the ISO would increase? Am I just > > tired today (i.e. dumb) ? > > You're capturing light from a larger area, so more light hits the > sensor, so you can use a lower ISO setting. > > I'm not s

Re: OT Fitting your CCD to a format, interesting tech

2004-12-21 Thread Peter J. Alling
Actually HP already has software for intelligently stitching picture segments together. It might be feasible. Anthony Farr wrote: Judging by the picture, it also seems that large arrays of small CCDs might be assembled with minimal or no interruption at the boundaries between chips. If it's eco

Re: OT Fitting your CCD to a format, interesting tech

2004-12-21 Thread Steve Jolly
Frantisek wrote: I am sorry I don't understand why the ISO would increase? Am I just tired today (i.e. dumb) ? You're capturing light from a larger area, so more light hits the sensor, so you can use a lower ISO setting. I'm not sure I'd have chosen to describe this as "effectively increasing t

Re: OT Fitting your CCD to a format, interesting tech

2004-12-21 Thread Frantisek
Tuesday, December 21, 2004, 3:57:36 PM, Rob wrote: RS> On 22 Dec 2004 at 0:34, Anthony Farr wrote: >> Unless the cost of big chips can be reigned in the Schott solution, >> implemented as I speculate, could have better economy RS> Indeed, using the Fused Fibre Optic components an 8MP 1.6x APS s

RE: OT Fitting your CCD to a format, interesting tech

2004-12-21 Thread Rob Studdert
On 22 Dec 2004 at 0:34, Anthony Farr wrote: > Unless the cost of big chips can be reigned in the Schott solution, > implemented as I speculate, could have better economy Indeed, using the Fused Fibre Optic components an 8MP 1.6x APS sensor could be transformed to cover the area of a 24x36mm fra

RE: OT Fitting your CCD to a format, interesting tech

2004-12-21 Thread Anthony Farr
> -Original Message- > From: Jon Glass [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] > (snip) > . But this is fascinating > information. :-) Thanks. > I should point out that it's my speculation, not information from any source. It's my amalgam of two existing concepts. One concept is that more than o

Re: OT Fitting your CCD to a format, interesting tech

2004-12-21 Thread Jon Glass
On Dec 21, 2004, at 9:53 AM, Anthony Farr wrote: " large arrays of small CCDs might be assembled with minimal or no interruption at the boundaries between chips. If it's economical to implement, this concept could bypass the low yield problems that make big CCDs cost so much more than several

RE: OT Fitting your CCD to a format, interesting tech

2004-12-21 Thread Anthony Farr
>From my previous post to this thread, " large arrays of small CCDs might be assembled with minimal or no interruption at the boundaries between chips. If it's economical to implement, this concept could bypass the low yield problems that make big CCDs cost so much more than several small CCDs

Re: OT Fitting your CCD to a format, interesting tech

2004-12-21 Thread Jon Glass
Interesting, but could such a thing be used to eliminate the "reduced frame" size of the average dSLR? On Dec 21, 2004, at 4:29 AM, Rob Studdert wrote: Similar to the bundled fibre concept which allowed the implementation of NPC Polaroid backs however with a twist, or a squeeze I should say :-)

RE: OT Fitting your CCD to a format, interesting tech

2004-12-20 Thread Anthony Farr
Judging by the picture, it also seems that large arrays of small CCDs might be assembled with minimal or no interruption at the boundaries between chips. If it's economical to implement, this concept could bypass the low yield problems that make big CCDs cost so much more than several small CCDs o

OT Fitting your CCD to a format, interesting tech

2004-12-20 Thread Rob Studdert
Similar to the bundled fibre concept which allowed the implementation of NPC Polaroid backs however with a twist, or a squeeze I should say :-) http://www.schott.com/fiberoptics/english/products/ccd.html Cheers, Rob Studdert HURSTVILLE AUSTRALIA Tel +61-2-9554-4110 UTC(GMT) +10 Hours [EMAIL P