Re: OT In an Age of Likes, Commonplace Images Prevail

2012-09-10 Thread Larry Colen
On Sep 8, 2012, at 10:19 AM, wrote: > Some truth in the essay. > But just because an image is posted & liked doesn't mean it is well done or > even good. It means in some cases it struck a cord with the viewer on some > level. And I doubt most i phone photos are crafted. > Some of the work o

Re: OT In an Age of Likes, Commonplace Images Prevail

2012-09-09 Thread Steven Desjardins
His name is Tim Pratt and he writes contemporary fantasy. His best know stuff is the Marla Mason series. He has a website where he has serialized some of the MM novels so you can give them a try. It's something like Marlamason.com On Sun, Sep 9, 2012 at 12:23 PM, John Sessoms wrote: > From: St

Re: OT In an Age of Likes, Commonplace Images Prevail

2012-09-09 Thread John Sessoms
From: Steven Desjardins There is a fantasy author I like who got dropped by his publisher. He self-publishes on Amazon, but also uses Kickstarter to raise money. When he raises enough (usually about $5000) he will write the novel. Contributors get an electronic or hard copy depending on the siz

Re: OT In an Age of Likes, Commonplace Images Prevail

2012-09-08 Thread Steven Desjardins
There is a fantasy author I like who got dropped by his publisher. He self-publishes on Amazon, but also uses Kickstarter to raise money. When he raises enough (usually about $5000) he will write the novel. Contributors get an electronic or hard copy depending on the size of the donation. This ki

Re: OT In an Age of Likes, Commonplace Images Prevail

2012-09-08 Thread Bruce Walker
On Sat, Sep 8, 2012 at 2:07 PM, Bob W wrote: > > 'Comes to the fore' in the way I meant it is not about commercial success > but about recognition. Some of the works that are now recognised as among > the best in their field were never commercial successes. What they > benefitted from was publicat

RE: OT In an Age of Likes, Commonplace Images Prevail

2012-09-08 Thread Bob W
> From: pdml-boun...@pdml.net [mailto:pdml-boun...@pdml.net] On Behalf Of > John Sessoms > > From: "Bob W" > > > With the democratisation of publishing, the difficulty that writers > > and photographers will have is to find a way of getting the right > > exposure to the right people. People are n

Re: OT In an Age of Likes, Commonplace Images Prevail

2012-09-08 Thread kwaller
ts both in their photography and efforts to sell it. Kenneth Waller http://www.pentaxphotogallery.com/kennethwaller - Original Message - From: "John Sessoms" To: Sent: Saturday, September 08, 2012 2:24 PM Subject: RE: OT In an Age of Likes, Commonplace Images Prevail From

RE: OT In an Age of Likes, Commonplace Images Prevail

2012-09-08 Thread John Sessoms
From: "Bob W" With the democratisation of publishing, the difficulty that writers and photographers will have is to find a way of getting the right exposure to the right people. People are not going to look at a great many places in search of good work, so the outlets will coalesce around a few

Re: OT In an Age of Likes, Commonplace Images Prevail

2012-09-08 Thread John Sessoms
l. And I doubt most i phone photos are crafted. Some of the work on instagram is truly good - not so others. YMMV Kenneth Waller http://www.pentaxphotogallery.com/kennethwaller - Original Message - From: "Bruce Walker" Subject: OT In an Age of Likes, Commonplace Images Prevai

RE: OT In an Age of Likes, Commonplace Images Prevail

2012-09-08 Thread Bob W
> From: pdml-boun...@pdml.net [mailto:pdml-boun...@pdml.net] On Behalf Of > steve harley > > on 2012-09-08 8:07 Bruce Walker wrote > > There's still no > > credible business model for this thing. > > does there need to be a business model? can good writing, or > photography, happen without a bu

Re: OT In an Age of Likes, Commonplace Images Prevail

2012-09-08 Thread steve harley
on 2012-09-08 8:07 Bruce Walker wrote There's still no credible business model for this thing. does there need to be a business model? can good writing, or photography, happen without a business model? going a little deeper, is it possible that all it means when good this or good that "co

Re: OT In an Age of Likes, Commonplace Images Prevail

2012-09-08 Thread kwaller
rs. YMMV Kenneth Waller http://www.pentaxphotogallery.com/kennethwaller - Original Message - From: "Bruce Walker" Subject: OT In an Age of Likes, Commonplace Images Prevail A sobering essay to ponder: "As far as I can see — admittedly from ground level — there are

Re: OT In an Age of Likes, Commonplace Images Prevail

2012-09-08 Thread Bruce Walker
On Sat, Sep 8, 2012 at 9:55 AM, Bob W wrote: >> From: pdml-boun...@pdml.net [mailto:pdml-boun...@pdml.net] On Behalf Of >> Bruce Walker >> >> A sobering essay to ponder: >> >> "As far as I can see — admittedly from ground level — there are two >> possible effects on “serious” photography. >> >> 1.

Re: OT In an Age of Likes, Commonplace Images Prevail

2012-09-08 Thread Steven Desjardins
I agree, Bob. In addition, photography is the only "artistic" activity many people can do. Even if they are not very good, it's still worth something to do what they can. On Sat, Sep 8, 2012 at 9:55 AM, Bob W wrote: >> From: pdml-boun...@pdml.net [mailto:pdml-boun...@pdml.net] On Behalf Of >> B

RE: OT In an Age of Likes, Commonplace Images Prevail

2012-09-08 Thread Bob W
> From: pdml-boun...@pdml.net [mailto:pdml-boun...@pdml.net] On Behalf Of > Bruce Walker > > A sobering essay to ponder: > > "As far as I can see — admittedly from ground level — there are two > possible effects on “serious” photography. > > 1. The flowering of photographers leads to millions of

OT In an Age of Likes, Commonplace Images Prevail

2012-09-08 Thread Bruce Walker
A sobering essay to ponder: "As far as I can see — admittedly from ground level — there are two possible effects on “serious” photography. 1. The flowering of photographers leads to millions of people who are thinking more visually and whom we may be able to entice to become an audience for docum