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Talking of calculators, in a long and convuluted deal I ended up with 10 BNIB, programmable, graphing, colour display, desk calculators. I can't remember the make or model but they are probably Casios. If anyone wants one, they are available for the equivalent of the price of postage. > On 29

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Trying to be polite about it… …but it was pretty good. > On Mar 28, 2021, at 2:25 PM, P. J. Alling wrote: > > Did no one else recognize the horrible pun? -- %(real_name)s Pentax-Discuss Mail List To unsubscribe send an email to pdml-le...@pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit th

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I'm using an HP42s, which is so close to the original that I've not used either of my actual physical 42s' for quite some time. It's also available for Windows and Mac, I think it's available for Mac, but I have the Windows version installed on my desktop and my laptop. On 3/29/2021 3:46 PM, H

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I guess you mean Edard Falk. I have used that one as well and it works OK. It is only that I have a nostalgic feeling for the keyboard layout of the HP41 for which I wrote at that time a number of programs on the magnetic cards. Well working HP41's are  still in demand and costly at ebay. Henk

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When I got my android one off the first things I looked for was an rpn calculator, I was pleased to see that the one I found was written by my friend Ed. On March 29, 2021 12:46:01 PM PDT, Henk Terhell wrote: >For my work I used slide rules until the period of HP calculators. Now >I'm using

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For my work I used slide rules until the period of HP calculators. Now I'm using an excellent HP41C simulator on my android phone. Henk Op 2021-03-28 om 20:25 schreef Larry Colen: On Mar 28, 2021, at 11:19 AM, Alan C wrote: In my youth I was a Whizz kid with a slide rule. Took over my Dad'

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I recognized it. I chose to ignore it. What's the point? The PDML Quotations List is dead. ... and even if it wasn't, statements obviously contrived with the list in mind should not be eligible. On 3/28/2021 14:25:34, P. J. Alling wrote: Did no one else recognize the horrible pun? On 3/28/2

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Well, Bill, I have to say your woodwork puts mine to intense shame! John in Brisbane -Original Message- > On Mar 27, 2021, at 7:35 PM, Bill wrote: > > Hey Stan, check these out and tell me what you think: > > https://www.flickr.com/photos/11819824@N03/51076525698/in/dateposted-publi

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Do you have a circular slide rule? I used one for years cause it was easier to carry than the 12 inch one tha a lot of guys wore attached to their belt. -Original Message- >From: Larry Colen >Sent: Mar 28, 2021 2:25 PM >To: Pentax-Discuss Mail List >Subject: Re: OT

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Didn't want to go near it, in case I got a splinter. Somewhere, I have the circular one I bought in my first year of sixth form. > On 28 March 2021 at 19:25 "P. J. Alling" wrote: > > > Did no one else recognize the horrible pun? > > On 3/28/2021 2:19 PM, Alan C wrote: > > In my youth I was a

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On 3/28/2021 2:56 AM, Bulent Celasun wrote: Stan, I think the two mindsets you described serve different purposes. Even the same person can employ either depending on the occasion. In a hurry? An average result is fine? The less precise, casual, on-the-go approach would be fine. Have time? Need

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On 3/28/2021 8:27 AM, Stanley Halpin wrote: I didn’t mean to imply that there is a right or wrong answer. Of course there are many ways to approach a task, many mindsets that might come into play. If I were shooting for a client with particular needs, if I were shooting a fast-paced event like

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I had a circular slide rule for navigational calculations in the aircraft. I previously had several straight ones as a young physics major. Dan Matyola *https://tinyurl.com/DJM-Pentax-Gallery * On Sun, Mar 28, 2021 at 2:36 PM mike wilson wrote: > Didn't

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Don’t encourage him... > On Mar 28, 2021, at 2:25 PM, P. J. Alling wrote: > > Did no one else recognize the horrible pun? > > On 3/28/2021 2:19 PM, Alan C wrote: >> In my youth I was a Whizz kid with a slide rule. Took over my Dad's & later >> bought a better one. I taught a couple of generati

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> On Mar 28, 2021, at 11:27 AM, Bob Pdml wrote: > > On 28 Mar 2021, at 19:19, Alan C wrote: >> >> In my youth I was a Whizz kid with a slide rule. Took over my Dad's & later >> bought a better one. I taught a couple of generations of Sixth Formers how >> to use them and then along came the

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On 28 Mar 2021, at 19:19, Alan C wrote: > > In my youth I was a Whizz kid with a slide rule. Took over my Dad's & later > bought a better one. I taught a couple of generations of Sixth Formers how to > use them and then along came the Scientific Calculator. End of story. Anyone > want a Slide

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> On Mar 28, 2021, at 11:19 AM, Alan C wrote: > > In my youth I was a Whizz kid with a slide rule. Took over my Dad's & later > bought a better one. I taught a couple of generations of Sixth Formers how to > use them and then along came the Scientific Calculator. End of story. Anyone > want

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Did no one else recognize the horrible pun? On 3/28/2021 2:19 PM, Alan C wrote: In my youth I was a Whizz kid with a slide rule. Took over my Dad's & later bought a better one. I taught a couple of generations of Sixth Formers how to use them and then along came the Scientific Calculator. End

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On 3/28/2021 2:12 PM, Larry Colen wrote: On Mar 28, 2021, at 7:27 AM, Stanley Halpin wrote: Occasionally I hear of people who still prefer to use a slide rule rather than the calculator on their phone. I would probably be one of those persons if only I had learned how to use the slide rul

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I learned to use a slide rule, and there are things it's actually better for than using even the best calculator. On 3/28/2021 10:27 AM, Stanley Halpin wrote: I didn’t mean to imply that there is a right or wrong answer. Of course there are many ways to approach a task, many mindsets that migh

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In my youth I was a Whizz kid with a slide rule. Took over my Dad's & later bought a better one. I taught a couple of generations of Sixth Formers how to use them and then along came the Scientific Calculator. End of story. Anyone want a Slide Rule? Alan C On 28-Mar-21 08:12 PM, Larry Colen w

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> On Mar 28, 2021, at 7:27 AM, Stanley Halpin > wrote: > > > > Occasionally I hear of people who still prefer to use a slide rule rather > than the calculator on their phone. I would probably be one of those persons > if only I had learned how to use the slide rule! Give it a try, using

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I didn’t mean to imply that there is a right or wrong answer. Of course there are many ways to approach a task, many mindsets that might come into play. If I were shooting for a client with particular needs, if I were shooting a fast-paced event like with motor-sports or a dance competition, or

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Stan, I think the two mindsets you described serve different purposes. Even the same person can employ either depending on the occasion. In a hurry? An average result is fine? The less precise, casual, on-the-go approach would be fine. Have time? Need some satisfaction? In a meditative mood? The l

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Wow. Great work! Paul > On Mar 27, 2021, at 7:36 PM, Bill wrote: > > Hey Stan, check these out and tell me what you think: > > https://www.flickr.com/photos/11819824@N03/51076525698/in/dateposted-public/ > https://www.flickr.com/photos/11819824@N03/51076525673/in/dateposted-public/ > https://

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Beautiful. Just really nicely done. And one of the nice things about wood as opposed to plastic or metal is that it has such a nice warm feel to it, giving tactile as well as visual pleasure. > On Mar 27, 2021, at 7:35 PM, Bill wrote: > > Hey Stan, check these out and tell me what you think: >

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Hey Stan, check these out and tell me what you think: https://www.flickr.com/photos/11819824@N03/51076525698/in/dateposted-public/ https://www.flickr.com/photos/11819824@N03/51076525673/in/dateposted-public/ https://www.flickr.com/photos/11819824@N03/51008038010/in/dateposted-public/ I made this

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There was a recent brief discussion here between Darren and PJ about the benefits (or not) of AI advances which will, among other things, provide far greater accuracy in camera’s autofocusing systems. The topic got me to thinking about two woodworking classes I took a few decades ago. The first

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nt: Saturday, 28 November 2015 13:30 > To: Pentax-Discuss Mail List > Subject: Re: OT or not OT > > > On Nov 27, 2015, at 1:35 PM, Ken Waller wrote: > >> I'm squinting a little but I can't see you. >> >> All I see are black letters on a field of white

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Behalf Of Joseph McAllister Sent: Saturday, 28 November 2015 13:30 To: Pentax-Discuss Mail List Subject: Re: OT or not OT On Nov 27, 2015, at 1:35 PM, Ken Waller wrote: > I'm squinting a little but I can't see you. > > All I see are black letters on a field of white. > >

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On 2015-11-27 20:30 , Joseph McAllister wrote: In the not too distant future, that is all you'll see from this tired old photo=weenie. thanks for being so direct and wry; i will remember you for it i wish you peace -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listi

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> I may or may not respond read or answer or reply, but will try. > >J.J.McA Relationships first. Things will take care of themselves. May you find the Lord's peace. Collin -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDM

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Joe, so sorry to hear that news. I hope you can take tcomfort from your good memories and from the people you love. Kenneth Waller http://www.pentaxphotogallery.com/kennethwaller - Original Message - From: "Joseph McAllister" Subject: Re: OT or not OT On Nov 27, 201

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Catching up on PDML posts and just saw your post Joseph. I'm terribly sorry to hear this. It was my honor and pleasure to help you disperse some of your excess inventory a few years ago when you took your big trip around to visit family members. I know that was quite an effort for you to make that

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Great photos! Excellent work, Joe. Thanks for reminding us, Igor. Paul via phone > On Nov 28, 2015, at 4:26 PM, Igor PDML-StR wrote: > > > Joe, > > I am so sorry to hear this... And since the morning when I read that, I've > been at a complete loss not knowing what to write... > > I recalle

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On 28/11/15, Igor PDML-StR, discombobulated, unleashed: >And here are a couple of your images that I still remember from the early >days of PUG (and PDML) some 15 years ago: >http://pug.komkon.org/00marc/oldmasters.htm >http://pug.komkon.org/00janu/cloudfan.htm >Those are charming! I love sunsets

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Igor, thanks for sharing those photo's of Joe's - I think I missed seeing them both - ann On 11/28/2015 4:37 PM, Christine Aguila wrote: Those are really nice! Thanks, Igor, for sharing some of Joe’s early work, which I have never seen! Great work, Joe! Cheers, Christine On Nov 28, 2015

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On 27/11/15, Joseph McAllister, discombobulated, unleashed: >In the not too distant future, that is all you'll see from this tired >old photo=weenie. > >First found in late 2014, cancer of the left kidney. By last week, >cancer is is now chewing up my right kidney, my lower spine, pelvis, >bladder

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Those are really nice! Thanks, Igor, for sharing some of Joe’s early work, which I have never seen! Great work, Joe! Cheers, Christine > On Nov 28, 2015, at 3:26 PM, Igor PDML-StR wrote: > > > Joe, > > I am so sorry to hear this... And since the morning when I read that, I've > been at

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Those two are beautiful images; thanks for showing them again, Igor. And, thanks for shooting them, Joe. Bulent - http://patoloji.gen.tr http://celasun.wordpress.com/ http://www.flickr.com/photos/bc_the_path/ http://photo.net/p

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Joe, I am so sorry to hear this... And since the morning when I read that, I've been at a complete loss not knowing what to write... I recalled some exchanges over the years. Among those was an unexpected surprise holiday greeting back in 2008 and then in 2009. Those and other bright moment

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Very sad news, Joe... I will remember you... /deep sigh/ Boris On 11/28/2015 5:30, Joseph McAllister wrote: In the not too distant future, that is all you'll see from this tired old photo=weenie. First found in late 2014, cancer of the left kidney. By last week, cancer is is now chewing u

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Wow - sorry to hear this, Joe. You'll be missed. On 11/27/2015 10:30 PM, Joseph McAllister wrote: On Nov 27, 2015, at 1:35 PM, Ken Waller wrote: I'm squinting a little but I can't see you. All I see are black letters on a field of white. Kenneth Waller In the not too distant future, tha

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Oh, Joe, very sorry to hear this. It’s been a great pleasure to know you and have you as one of the gang! Please know you are in our thoughts. Cheers, Christine > On Nov 27, 2015, at 9:30 PM, Joseph McAllister wrote: > > > On Nov 27, 2015, at 1:35 PM, Ken Waller wrote: > >> I'm squinting

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Damn, Joe. So sorry to hear this news. You've been a vital member of the list and will be missed. Wishing a painless exit. "What you leave behind is not what is engraved in stone monuments, but what is woven into the lives of others." -p On 11/27/2015 9:30 PM, Joseph McAllister wrote: O

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On 11/27/2015 10:30 PM, Joseph McAllister wrote: On Nov 27, 2015, at 1:35 PM, Ken Waller wrote: I'm squinting a little but I can't see you. All I see are black letters on a field of white. Kenneth Waller In the not too distant future, that is all you'll see from this tired old photo=ween

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Here’s hoping that you confound all of the experts and hang on for another decade or two. If you do check out, then go with comfort from the knowledge that you have made a positive difference. I for one have valued your perspective in the discussions here on PDML and I will miss your presence.

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Damn. wishing you good drugs and home paleative care. I imagine you have a loyal canine by your side aling with family. You'll be missed. As to attempting 1500 pieces of list mail, suggest sorting by subject - deleting quarrels, leaving puns and photos - that should get you down to about 700 -

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> On 28 November 2015 at 03:30 Joseph McAllister wrote: > It's been fun allowing my thoughts mingle with such depth of experience and > humor. The pleasure's been all mine, both on and off list. Peaceful journey to you. -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/li

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Really sorry to hear all that, Joe. I hope I can be as tough under similar circumstances. Words seem so superficial... Bulent - http://patoloji.gen.tr http://celasun.wordpress.com/ http://www.flickr.com/photos/bc_the_path/ http:

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I am very sorry to hear this, Joe. My thoughts and prayers are with you and your family. Stay strong. Dan Matyola http://www.pentaxphotogallery.com/danieljmatyola On Sat, Nov 28, 2015 at 2:19 AM, Brian Walters wrote: > Joe > > So sorry to hear this. > > Marg and I remember with pleasure our

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DAMN IT! Sorry, Joe. J - Original Message - From: "Larry Colen" To: "Pentax-Discuss Mail List" Sent: Friday, November 27, 2015 11:47:50 PM Subject: Re: OT or not OT Joseph McAllister wrote: > On Nov 27, 2015, at 1:35 PM, Ken Waller wrote: > >> I'

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Joseph McAllister wrote: On Nov 27, 2015, at 1:35 PM, Ken Waller wrote: I'm squinting a little but I can't see you. All I see are black letters on a field of white. Kenneth Waller In the not too distant future, that is all you'll see from this tired old photo=weenie. First found in lat

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Joe So sorry to hear this. Marg and I remember with pleasure our short catch-up with you in a Seattle coffee shop in 2013. You are in our thoughts. Kind regards Brian On Sat, Nov 28, 2015, at 02:30 PM, Joseph McAllister wrote: > > On Nov 27, 2015, at 1:35 PM, Ken Waller wrote: > > >

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So very sorry to hear that, Joe. You've been a pal and an inspiration. I hope your last days in this realm are as painless and peaceful as possible. Paul via phone > On Nov 28, 2015, at 1:05 AM, Godfrey DiGiorgi wrote: > > Joe, > > Sad to hear this news. > But happy to hear that you're keepi

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Joe, Sad to hear this news. But happy to hear that you're keeping on as well as you can. What else to say? Know that you are in my thoughts and that I wish you all the best. Godfrey "On the occasion of this weekend, we give thanks: For all we have, For all we have had, For our friends, our

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Holy shit, Joe. I had no idea. You're a strong man. Cheers, frank On November 27, 2015 10:30:11 PM EST, Joseph McAllister wrote: > >On Nov 27, 2015, at 1:35 PM, Ken Waller wrote: > >> I'm squinting a little but I can't see you. >> >> All I see are black letters on a field of white. >> >>

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On Nov 27, 2015, at 1:35 PM, Ken Waller wrote: > I'm squinting a little but I can't see you. > > All I see are black letters on a field of white. > > Kenneth Waller > In the not too distant future, that is all you'll see from this tired old photo=weenie. First found in late 2014, cancer of

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Just a minute until I put on my glasses... OK - there you are! Cheers Brian On Sat, Nov 28, 2015, at 07:43 AM, John wrote: > That is the question. > > I can see y'all, can y'all see me? > > My "plan" for black Friday was to stay home, maybe go out and split some > more firewood, but to jus

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I'm squinting a little but I can't see you. All I see are black letters on a field of white. Kenneth Waller http://www.pentaxphotogallery.com/kennethwaller - Original Message - From: "John" Subject: OT or not OT That is the question. I can see y'all, ca

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That is the question. I can see y'all, can y'all see me? My "plan" for black Friday was to stay home, maybe go out and split some more firewood, but to just generally goof off. BUT, I had to take my cable modem down to Time Warner Cable's local office and exchange it for one that hopefully will

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On Saturday, November 8, 2003, at 05:24 PM, Ann Sanfedele wrote: I know you guys would be watching if I had been in it though, right? ;) You bet. The Bears are the early game today, so I may catch a bit of Scrabble in any case. Chicago plays Detroit today, so I'll make my once a year trip to s

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Paul Stenquist wrote: > Nice job, Ann. Haven't seen any promos although I watch ESPN quite a > bit. Let's see, 3:30 on Sunday. Hmmm, Scrabble or football? Scrabble or > football? May have to think this over a bit :-) > Paul glad you like the cover, Paul - regarding your dilemma oh suuureee