OT: Ottawa trip

2004-08-12 Thread Fred Widall
Last week my wife and I spent a few days in Ottawa and Hull (Hull is just across the Ottawa river in Quebec). I took along my MZ-7 & FA 2-90mm, together with my 1927 Zeiss-Ikon Cocarette and my 1937 Rolleicord II. I've loaded up some images to my webpage. If you'd like to see them please go to htt

Re: Ottawa trip

2004-08-12 Thread William Robb
- Original Message - From: "Fred Widall" Subject: OT: Ottawa trip I hope he's happy in his new location, although instead > of a beautiful view of Parliament Hill he's now surrounded by > drug dealers in the park. Apropos, don't you think? No polit

OT: History That Will Interest No One-was: OT: Ottawa trip

2004-08-13 Thread frank theriault
--- Fred Widall <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > On the plus side We did visit the 'Diefenbunker'. A > four story, 100,000 > square feet, underground bunker constructed during > the height of the cold > war to protect the Prime Minister Just in case anyone was wondering (as I'm sure you were!), th

Re: History That Will Interest No One-was: OT: Ottawa trip

2004-08-13 Thread Anthony Farr
- Original Message - From: "frank theriault" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> (snip) > > Other than having the Diefenbaker constructed, he's > best known for scrapping the Avro Arrow, an all > Canadian supersonic fighter aircraft that would have > been the most advanced military aircraft of its day.

Re: OT: History That Will Interest No One-was: OT: Ottawa trip

2004-08-13 Thread frank theriault
--- frank theriault <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > Other than having the Diefenbaker constructed Typo. I meant "other than having the DIEFENBUNKER constructed..." -frank = "The optimist thinks this is the best of all possible worlds. The pessimist fears it is true." -J. Robert Oppenhei

Re: OT: History That Will Interest No One-was: OT: Ottawa trip

2004-08-13 Thread mike wilson
Hi Frank, and welcome back... frank theriault wrote: Just in case anyone was wondering (as I'm sure you were!), the Diefenbunker was named after our Prime Minsister of the late '50's and early 60's, the Right Honourable John George Diefenbaker. At least I now know where the wolf in "Due South" got

Re: OT: History That Will Interest No One-was: OT: Ottawa trip

2004-08-13 Thread frank theriault
--- mike wilson <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > Hi Frank, and welcome back... > > At least I now know where the wolf in "Due South" > got its name from. > > Rather like our TSR2, whose printed circuit boards > ended up made into > minidresses in Carnaby Street. > > mike > Hi, Mike, Glad to

Re: OT: History That Will Interest No One-was: OT: Ottawa trip

2004-08-13 Thread mike wilson
Hi, frank theriault wrote: --- mike wilson <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: Hi Frank, and welcome back... At least I now know where the wolf in "Due South" got its name from. Rather like our TSR2, whose printed circuit boards ended up made into minidresses in Carnaby Street. mike Hi, Mike, Glad t

Re: OT: History That Will Interest No One-was: OT: Ottawa trip

2004-08-13 Thread Peter J. Alling
Well that must annoy WW so he couldn't have been all bad :-) frank theriault wrote: --- Fred Widall <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: On the plus side We did visit the 'Diefenbunker'. A four story, 100,000 square feet, underground bunker constructed during the height of the cold war to protect the P

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2004-08-13 Thread Keith Whaley
The guy was a bleedin' idiot! keith whaley Original Message Subject: OT: History That Will Interest No One-was: OT: Ottawa trip Resent-Date: Fri, 13 Aug 2004 09:51:47 -0400 Resent-From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Date: Fri, 13 Aug 2004 09:51:46 -0400 (EDT) From: frank theriault &l

Re: OT: History That Will Interest No One-was: OT: Ottawa trip

2004-08-13 Thread William Robb
- Original Message - From: "Peter J. Alling" < Subject: Re: OT: History That Will Interest No One-was: OT: Ottawa trip > Well that must annoy WW so he couldn't have been all bad :-) Frank's view of history is a little narrow. There is much more to the

Re: OT: History That Will Interest No One-was: OT: Ottawa trip

2004-08-13 Thread Pat White
The parallels between the TSR.2 and the Arrow are remarkable. I seem to recall stories about Israel and Japan also developing leading-edge fighter aircraft, but being pressured to buy American, so that the Western-bloc countries would have "compatible" equipment. In the cases of Canada and Britai

Re: OT: History That Will Interest No One-was: OT: Ottawa trip

2004-08-13 Thread frank theriault
--- William Robb <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > Frank's view of history is a little narrow. > There is much more to the Arrow story than the brief > synopsis that > was posted. > My view of history is a bit broader than this forum will allow. Besides, I was editing for humour... cheers, fra

Re: OT: History That Will Interest No One-was: OT: Ottawa trip

2004-08-13 Thread Gonz
Thats cool, I've seen the SR-71 at that museum, but not the YF-12, which is apparently in an annex. Didn't have time to see the whole place that day. But a fighter with those parameters would have been almost useless, since it was optimized for flight way above normal fighter operating range.

Re: OT: History That Will Interest No One-was: OT: Ottawa trip

2004-08-13 Thread Mark Roberts
mike wilson <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: >> So, what was the TSR2? > >Pretty much the same as the Avro; 25 years ahead of its time, double >supersonic, nuclear capable jet fighter which apparently scared the >Soviets silly. Not to mention our allies. > >Cancelled by a rabid socialist Chancell

Re: OT: History That Will Interest No One-was: OT: Ottawa trip

2004-08-13 Thread Herb Chong
;[EMAIL PROTECTED]> Sent: Friday, August 13, 2004 11:57 AM Subject: Re: OT: History That Will Interest No One-was: OT: Ottawa trip > Apparently you never heard of the YF-12 > http://www.visi.com/~jweeks/sr71/usafm-yf12.html. > > Gonz wrote: > > > Fascinating reading. Really