Hi guys;
There's an article on Schneider and his lost POY awards at PDN
http://pdnonline.com
He was the guy that spoke at GFM.
Butch
Each man had only one genuine vocation - to find the way to himself.
Hermann Hess (Demian)
de an example of, the PDN
article makes that clear. A jealous competitor in the contest complained.
Ciao,
Graywolf
http://pages.prodigy.net/graywolfphoto
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From: "Butch Black" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
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From: "T Rittenhouse"
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> And from my point of view he did nothing that changed the meaning of the
> photographs. Getting rid of a distracting background is a long long way
from
> cloning in someone who wasn't there. I
On Thu, 21 Aug 2003 20:56:14 -0600, William Robb wrote:
> But where do you draw the line?
> Do you draw it at no editorializing? Just a bit?
> And who decides if the content has effectively changed?
To me, that's the crux of the issue. "Beauty is in the eye of the
beholder", and so is the "meani
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From: "Doug Franklin"
Subject: Re: PDN article
> On Thu, 21 Aug 2003 20:56:14 -0600, William Robb wrote:
>
> > But where do you draw the line?
> > Do you draw it at no editorializing? Just a bit?
> > And who decides if the content
That's the problem, isn't it?
A photojournalist has to make a photograph that ~looks good~. If it has no
impact, it won't be looked at, and it might as well not be taken. If it
lacks impact, no editor is going to put it in the paper. If it has great
impact, it might even end up on the front pag
"T Rittenhouse" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
>I wondered why Schneider was singled out to be made an example of, the PDN
>article makes that clear. A jealous competitor in the contest complained.
I don't know if the photographers who complained were competitors, but
>> > But where do you draw the line?
>> > Do you draw it at no editorializing? Just a bit?
>> > And who decides if the content has effectively changed?
>>
>> To me, that's the crux of the issue. "Beauty is in the eye of the
>> beholder", and so is the "meaning" of a photo. Some leave less to the
My attitude on this is simple. If you think these burns go over the
line, then change the policies if the paper and the contest. They had
no right (in my opinion) to retroactively punish Schneider since what he
did was accepted practice at the time and most of these hypocrites knew
exactly what
Cotty <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
>>> > But where do you draw the line?
>>> > Do you draw it at no editorializing? Just a bit?
>>> > And who decides if the content has effectively changed?
>>>
>>> To me, that's the crux of the issue. "Beauty is in the eye of the
>>> beholder", and so is the "meani
?
Ciao,
Graywolf
http://pages.prodigy.net/graywolfphoto
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Sent: Thursday, August 21, 2003 10:56 PM
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> -Original Message-
> From: Mark Roberts [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
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> "T Rittenhouse" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
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> >I wondered why Schneider was singled out to be made an
> example of, the PDN
> >article makes that clear. A jealous co
"tom" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
>> -Original Message-
>> From: Mark Roberts [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
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>>
>> "T Rittenhouse" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
>>
>> >I wondered why Schneider was singled
the stakes are the highest. And a
lot of those editors, if they smell a winner, will be more than happy to
make that "little" alteration for you, if you haven't done it yourself.
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Treena wrote:
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> Speaking as a photojournalist and editor whose work is entered in contests
> every year, the pressure to produce prizewinning photos is immense. The
> photographers are usually awarded substantial bonuses for winning photos,
> plus the paper in question (or its parent company)
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> Treena wrote:
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> > Speaking as a photojournalist and editor whose work is entered in
contests
> > every year, the pressure to produce prizewinning photos is immense. The
>
keith
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> Sent: Friday, August 22, 2003 12:58 PM
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> > Treena wrote:
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> > > Speaking as a photojourna
without saying.
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Sent: Friday, August 22, 2003 2:39 PM
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> Treena wrote:
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> > No, actually. I'm both at once. I'm the managing
>I knew one photographer who staged every
>photo he took.
HCB?
Cheers,
Cotty
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id we'll see a
trend back to that again.
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Sent: Monday, August 25, 2003 10:24 AM
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> William Robb wrote:
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> > I draw a very clear line betwe
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