PESO - Heavy Weather 2

2007-05-07 Thread Tim Øsleby
I've already displayed the first one. I think I have material for four of five in a Birds in Heavy Weather serie. The idea of making a serie of them is partly inspired by Marnie's projects. http://foto.no/cgi-bin/bildegalleri/vis_bilde.cgi?id=308716 I like the composition in this one. Not fancy, b

Re: PESO - Heavy Weather 2

2007-05-07 Thread pnstenquist
I think the concept here is excellent. I love the way the two background birds disappear in the storm. But I don't like the camera position relative to the foreground bird or the way he touches the second bird. It's a close call, but I would probably have to go "thumbs down" on this one. Paul -

RE: PESO - Heavy Weather 2

2007-05-07 Thread Tom C
be a photo that's strong enough to stand on it's own. As opposed to a strong series strengthening a weaker photo, I believe a weak photo will weaken a strong series. Tom C. From: Tim Øsleby <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> Reply-To: Pentax-Discuss Mail List To: "Pentax-Discuss Ma

Re: PESO - Heavy Weather 2

2007-05-07 Thread Jack Davis
The near bird being in focus certainly makes it usable in a "Heavy Weather" type series. Jack --- Tim Øsleby <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > I've already displayed the first one. I think I have material for > four of > five in a Birds in Heavy Weather serie. > The idea of making a serie of them is

Re: PESO - Heavy Weather 2

2007-05-07 Thread Tim Øsleby
- From: <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> To: "Pentax-Discuss Mail List" Sent: Monday, May 07, 2007 8:53 PM Subject: Re: PESO - Heavy Weather 2 >I think the concept here is excellent. I love the way the two background >birds disappear in the storm. But I don't like the camera

Re: PESO - Heavy Weather 2

2007-05-07 Thread Tim Øsleby
rom: Tim Øsleby <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> >>Reply-To: Pentax-Discuss Mail List >>To: "Pentax-Discuss Mail List" >>Subject: PESO - Heavy Weather 2 >>Date: Mon, 7 May 2007 20:38:01 +0200 >> >>I've already displayed the first one. I think I have materi

Re: PESO - Heavy Weather 2

2007-05-07 Thread Tim Øsleby
Thank You Jack. One Yes, and two No. You are in minority, so far. Tim Typo Mostly Harmless - Original Message - From: "Jack Davis" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> To: "Pentax-Discuss Mail List" Sent: Monday, May 07, 2007 9:01 PM Subject: Re: PESO - Heavy Weather 2 Th

Re: PESO - Heavy Weather 2

2007-05-07 Thread frank theriault
On 5/7/07, Tim Øsleby <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > Thank You Jack. > > One Yes, and two No. You are in minority, so far. Make it a tie. I'm in the "like" camp. I think it's a terrific photo. cheers, frank -- "Sharpness is a bourgeois concept." -Henri Cartier-Bresson -- PDML Pentax-Discuss

Re: PESO - Heavy Weather 2

2007-05-07 Thread Rick Womer
Tim, The idea is excellent, but I have to give this photo a "thumbs-down." The in-focus subject is very small and very low in the frame; the middle subject has the highest contrast (and so draws the eye) but it's not in focus, and the white bird in the background is the largest subject and is ver

Re: PESO - Heavy Weather 2

2007-05-07 Thread Kenneth Waller
I agree with Paul. The Merging of the three birds is a big distraction to me in this image. Kenneth Waller - Original Message - From: <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> Subject: Re: PESO - Heavy Weather 2 >I think the concept here is excellent. I love the way the two background >birds

Re: PESO - Heavy Weather 2

2007-05-07 Thread Eactivist
In a message dated 5/7/2007 12:07:05 P.M. Pacific Daylight Time, [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: I've already displayed the first one. I think I have material for four of five in a Birds in Heavy Weather serie. The idea of making a serie of them is partly inspired by Marnie's projects. http://foto

Re: PESO - Heavy Weather 2

2007-05-08 Thread Tim Øsleby
really are. Tim Typo Mostly Harmless - Original Message - From: <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> To: Sent: Tuesday, May 08, 2007 4:58 AM Subject: Re: PESO - Heavy Weather 2 > In a message dated 5/7/2007 12:07:05 P.M. Pacific Daylight Time, > [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: > I'v

Re: PESO - Heavy Weather 2

2007-05-08 Thread Godfrey DiGiorgi
I like the idea in this photo a lot. What I would like to see is a bit more separation between the foreground bird and its surroundings. You might be able to do that with a little bit of careful image processing work. Godfrey On May 7, 2007, at 11:38 AM, Tim Øsleby wrote: > I've already di

Re: PESO - Heavy Weather 2

2007-05-08 Thread Tim Øsleby
Tuesday, May 08, 2007 6:50 PM Subject: Re: PESO - Heavy Weather 2 I like the idea in this photo a lot. What I would like to see is a bit more separation between the foreground bird and its surroundings. You might be able to do that with a little bit of careful image processing work. Godfrey On M

Re: PESO - Heavy Weather 2

2007-05-08 Thread Godfrey DiGiorgi
I didn't say to use Photoshop... I said to do image processing. There *are* other tools. Although, frankly, I would suggest getting over your phobia by buying a book and reading, understanding. Nothing kills a phobia so quickly as understanding. ;-) G On May 8, 2007, at 11:37 AM, Tim Øsl

Re: PESO - Heavy Weather 2

2007-05-08 Thread Tim Øsleby
uot;Godfrey DiGiorgi" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> To: "Pentax-Discuss Mail List" Sent: Tuesday, May 08, 2007 6:50 PM Subject: Re: PESO - Heavy Weather 2 I like the idea in this photo a lot. What I would like to see is a bit more separation between the foreground bird and its surround

Re: PESO - Heavy Weather 2

2007-05-08 Thread Jack Davis
mputer geek. A lot details, but nothing giving me a general > understanding. > A lot of how's, but no why's. > > Tim Typo > Mostly Harmless > > - Original Message - > From: "Godfrey DiGiorgi" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> > To: "Pentax-Discus

Re: PESO - Heavy Weather 2

2007-05-08 Thread Godfrey DiGiorgi
On May 8, 2007, at 12:30 PM, Tim Øsleby wrote: > Yeah. I've heared about books ;-) > > I have one about Elements, Elements in a snap. Total crap, written > by a > computer geek. A lot details, but nothing giving me a general > understanding. > A lot of how's, but no why's. It's unfair to con

Re: PESO - Heavy Weather 2

2007-05-08 Thread Tim Øsleby
From: "Godfrey DiGiorgi" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> To: "Pentax-Discuss Mail List" Sent: Tuesday, May 08, 2007 10:25 PM Subject: Re: PESO - Heavy Weather 2 On May 8, 2007, at 12:30 PM, Tim Øsleby wrote: > Yeah. I've heared about books ;-) > > I have one about Elem

Re: PESO - Heavy Weather 2

2007-05-08 Thread Brian Walters
I'm selling a lens now, a dustcollector. I'm talking about 400USD, > so I > might turn the cash into some of the recomended reading. > > Tim Typo > Mostly Harmless > > - Original Message - > From: "Godfrey DiGiorgi" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]

Re: PESO - Heavy Weather 2

2007-05-10 Thread Boris Liberman
One of the best birds photos I've seen on this list. It just feels very much alive. Thumbs up, Tim! Boris Tim Øsleby wrote: > I've already displayed the first one. I think I have material for four of > five in a Birds in Heavy Weather serie. > The idea of making a serie of them is partly inspir

Re: PESO - Heavy Weather 2

2007-05-10 Thread Tim Øsleby
; To: "Pentax-Discuss Mail List" Sent: Thursday, May 10, 2007 8:31 PM Subject: Re: PESO - Heavy Weather 2 One of the best birds photos I've seen on this list. It just feels very much alive. Thumbs up, Tim! Boris Tim Øsleby wrote: > I've already displayed the first one

What to read for a PS phobic? (Was:Re: PESO - Heavy Weather 2)

2007-05-09 Thread Tim Øsleby
earch at amazon gives too many results. I'm not able to sort out what to buy from there. I can't buy them all ;-) Tim Typo Mostly Harmless - Original Message - From: "Brian Walters" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> To: "Pentax-Discuss Mail List" Sent: Wednesday, May

Re: What to read for a PS phobic? (Was:Re: PESO - Heavy Weather 2)

2007-05-09 Thread Godfrey DiGiorgi
On May 9, 2007, at 3:49 AM, Tim Øsleby wrote: > First I need something light on Elements. So I'm leaning against Scott > Kelby, The Photoshop Elements 5 Book for Digital Photographers. The > reviews > indicates that this is light humourous reading. A light approach on > the > subject seems goo

Re: What to read for a PS phobic? (Was:Re: PESO - Heavy Weather 2)

2007-05-09 Thread Paul Sorenson
es too many results. I'm not able to sort > out what to buy from there. I can't buy them all ;-) > > Tim Typo > Mostly Harmless > > - Original Message - > From: "Brian Walters" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> > To: "Pentax-Discuss Mail List"

Re: What to read for a PS phobic? (Was:Re: PESO - Heavy Weather 2)

2007-05-09 Thread Eactivist
In a message dated 5/9/2007 3:57:16 A.M. Pacific Daylight Time, [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: Back to Kelby's Elements book. Some reviews indicates that it is too light. Are there other better alternatives, that are not too detailed trigging my PS phobia? A search at amazon gives too many resul

Re: What to read for a PS phobic? (Was:Re: PESO - Heavy Weather 2)

2007-05-09 Thread Eactivist
P.S. Sorry, guess each video that accompanies each lesson is ten minutes (rereading reviews), not five minutes. And it was only one exercise, not one lesson where I couldn't quite duplicate what he does. There are lots of photos that show what should be happening at each stage of editing

Re: What to read for a PS phobic? (Was:Re: PESO - Heavy Weather 2)

2007-05-09 Thread Eactivist
Oh, I didn't read what you said carefully enough. I used Elements Classroom in a Book to learn Elements 3. I haven't needed much book learning for later versions of Elements. So I can't vouch for the Elements 5 version http://tinyurl.com/3xs6ad I found the Elements 3 version almost too sim

Re: What to read for a PS phobic? (Was:Re: PESO - Heavy Weather 2)

2007-05-11 Thread Tim Øsleby
Harmless - Original Message - From: "Tim Øsleby" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> To: "Pentax-Discuss Mail List" Sent: Wednesday, May 09, 2007 12:49 PM Subject: What to read for a PS phobic? (Was:Re: PESO - Heavy Weather 2) I'm prepering a shopping cart at amazon. The