Re: Please educate me (Kenny Boy)

2012-09-06 Thread Steven Desjardins
Prozac helps. On Wed, Sep 5, 2012 at 10:40 PM, knarftheria...@gmail.com wrote: > Mark!! > > (Roberts, of course) > > cheers, > frank > > "What can be asserted without proof can be dismissed without proof." -- > Christopher Hitchens > > --- Original Message --- > > From: Mark C > > > I almost c

Re: Please educate me (Kenny Boy)

2012-09-05 Thread knarftheria...@gmail.com
Mark!! (Roberts, of course) cheers, frank "What can be asserted without proof can be dismissed without proof." -- Christopher Hitchens --- Original Message --- From: Mark C I almost composed a rant about this but dammit, I'm committed to being mellow. Mark -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail L

Re: Please educate me (Kenny Boy)

2012-09-05 Thread Mark C
On 9/4/2012 12:12 AM, P. J. Alling wrote: By the way lens sharpness is really a combination of resolution and contrast, and is quite subjective, so he starts out from an incorrect premiss from his first sentence.. I'm glad that somebody brought that up. "Sharpness" is the combined effect o

Re: Please educate me (Kenny Boy)

2012-09-03 Thread P. J. Alling
Kenny Boy's data is suspect, his methods are sloppy and his mother dresses him funny. He is the master of the Hands Off review. The fact that he has never handled or necessarily even read someone else' review of a piece of equipment is no impediment to him writing his own highly opinionated

Re: Please educate me (Kenny Boy)

2012-09-02 Thread Boris Liberman
Darren, IMPVHO, I consider Mr. Rockwell to be the ultimate proverbial troll. Here - have a look. He's not a part of this forum but the thread about him has grown to the considerable size. Granted and thankfully it hasn't turned to a flame war, but given the amount of talk the mention of his nam

Re: Please educate me (Kenny Boy)

2012-09-01 Thread Larry Colen
On Sep 1, 2012, at 11:50 AM, Bob W wrote: >> From: pdml-boun...@pdml.net [mailto:pdml-boun...@pdml.net] On Behalf Of >> Igor Roshchin >> >> >> See the rule 19a at the bottom: >> http://www.komkon.org/~igor/coolphotog.html >> > > that's far too complicated. You just need an M3 + 50mm Summilux

RE: Please educate me (Kenny Boy)

2012-09-01 Thread Bob W
> From: pdml-boun...@pdml.net [mailto:pdml-boun...@pdml.net] On Behalf Of > Igor Roshchin > > > See the rule 19a at the bottom: > http://www.komkon.org/~igor/coolphotog.html > that's far too complicated. You just need an M3 + 50mm Summilux and nothing else. That's it. B -- PDML Pentax-Discu

Re: Please educate me (Kenny Boy)

2012-09-01 Thread Igor Roshchin
See the rule 19a at the bottom: http://www.komkon.org/~igor/coolphotog.html Cheers, Igor -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions.

Re: Please educate me (Kenny Boy)

2012-09-01 Thread John Sessoms
From: Larry Colen On Aug 31, 2012, at 12:16 PM, Bruce Walker wrote: You'll get a better education reading TOP: http://theonlinephotographer.typepad.com/the_online_photographer/2012/08/titletk.html That is a much better written article on the subject. Who reads kennyboy for education anyw

Re: Please educate me (Kenny Boy)

2012-09-01 Thread John Sessoms
From: Brian Walters An irritating point with all of his articles is the bit at the bottom under "Help me help you". I don't mind him requesting donations - after all, he is apparently trying to make his web site pay its way. But expecting readers to pay him 5 bucks for the privilege of printing

Re: Please educate me (Kenny Boy)

2012-08-31 Thread Tom C
Addendum #2. When I wrote "It doesn't matter if everything else is perfect", that was meant to mean 'if everything else is perfect and the composition is lacking, the perfection of the rest was for naught'. Tom C. On Fri, Aug 31, 2012 at 8:56 PM, Tom C wrote: > And to add an addendum (redundant

Re: Please educate me (Kenny Boy)

2012-08-31 Thread Tom C
And to add an addendum (redundant?). Equipment is the least important factor in the equation. We (I) like to think that the newest and best will make us/me better. It probably won't. It may give us more options or a make a good image possibly better depending on it's ultimate use. The best tools

Re: Please educate me (Kenny Boy)

2012-08-31 Thread Tom C
> From: Darren Addy > > Alright. I had a Ranger IPA and let the desire to unsubscribe pass. My > Quality of Life Index stinks bad enough right now without cutting > myself off from PDML (you see, I clearly have masochistic tendencies). > : \ That's the way to do it. I knew you weren't a quitter!.

Re: Please educate me (Kenny Boy)

2012-08-31 Thread Larry Colen
On Aug 31, 2012, at 12:16 PM, Bruce Walker wrote: > You'll get a better education reading TOP: > > http://theonlinephotographer.typepad.com/the_online_photographer/2012/08/titletk.html That is a much better written article on the subject. > > > On Fri, Aug 31, 2012 at 1:15 PM, Darren Addy

Re: Please educate me (Kenny Boy)

2012-08-31 Thread Mark Roberts
Steven Desjardins wrote: >Kenny Boy gets so much stuff wrong that this is really close to right >by his standards. Bam! -- Mark Roberts - Photography & Multimedia www.robertstech.com -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSC

Re: Please educate me (Kenny Boy)

2012-08-31 Thread Steven Desjardins
Yeah, but he was only using that property. Look at it this way. Kenny Boy gets so much stuff wrong that this is really close to right by his standards. On Fri, Aug 31, 2012 at 5:56 PM, Larry Colen wrote: > > On Aug 31, 2012, at 12:34 PM, Steven Desjardins wrote: > >> I think that Darren is tryin

Re: Please educate me (Kenny Boy)

2012-08-31 Thread Larry Colen
On Aug 31, 2012, at 12:34 PM, Steven Desjardins wrote: > I think that Darren is trying to make us forget he started the Apple > vs. Samsung thread by bringing up Public Enema #1. (lol). > > BTW, Larry, "detail at every length scale" is a legitimate property of > fractals. I'm not saying that t

Re: Please educate me (Kenny Boy)

2012-08-31 Thread steve harley
on 2012-08-31 11:54 Jostein Øksne wrote IIRC, some have called mr. Rockwell the Chuck Norris of photography. Statements like the above doesn't help mr. Rockwells case, I think. or the Steven Seagal of photographic punditry in other words, he's not exactly sharp, but perhaps sharpness is overra

Re: Please educate me (Kenny Boy)

2012-08-31 Thread Brian Walters
Quoting Bob W : From: pdml-boun...@pdml.net [mailto:pdml-boun...@pdml.net] On Behalf Of Darren Addy [...] I realize that "Kenny Boy" is a widely reviled character here on PDML (and beyond), and I'm not clear if this is because his information or conclusion is (often?) wrong, or if he is just

Re: Please educate me (Kenny Boy)

2012-08-31 Thread Darren Addy
On Fri, Aug 31, 2012 at 2:16 PM, Bruce Walker wrote: > You'll get a better education reading TOP: > > http://theonlinephotographer.typepad.com/the_online_photographer/2012/08/titletk.html (digression) I appreciate the link (I've read some of his stuff before) however, I have to say that I have a

Re: Please educate me (Kenny Boy)

2012-08-31 Thread John Sessoms
It's Kenny Boy Rockwell. He has some very strong opinions that do not appear to derive from experience. Occasionally he does get something right, purely because even a blind pig finds an occasional acorn. -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.

Re: Please educate me (Kenny Boy)

2012-08-31 Thread Steve Sharpe
At 2:18 PM -0500 8/31/12, Bob Sullivan wrote: Steve, When you use Nikon equipment, you don't need to shoot RAW. Everybody knows that. But he was using a Canon 5D!!! -- Steve Sharpe d...@eastlink.ca • http://earth.delith.com/photo_gallery.html -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net

RE: Please educate me (Kenny Boy)

2012-08-31 Thread Bob W
> From: pdml-boun...@pdml.net [mailto:pdml-boun...@pdml.net] On Behalf Of > Darren Addy [...] > > I realize that "Kenny Boy" is a widely reviled character here on PDML > (and beyond), and I'm not clear if this is because his information or > conclusion is (often?) wrong, or if he is just hated as

Re: Please educate me (Kenny Boy)

2012-08-31 Thread Jack Davis
List Cc: Sent: Friday, August 31, 2012 12:34 PM Subject: Re: Please educate me (Kenny Boy) I think that Darren is trying to make us forget he started the Apple vs. Samsung thread by bringing up Public Enema #1.  (lol). BTW, Larry, "detail at every length scale" is a legitimate p

Re: Please educate me (Kenny Boy)

2012-08-31 Thread Steven Desjardins
I think that Darren is trying to make us forget he started the Apple vs. Samsung thread by bringing up Public Enema #1. (lol). BTW, Larry, "detail at every length scale" is a legitimate property of fractals. I'm not saying that that it's a useful application of the concept in this case, however.

Re: Please educate me (Kenny Boy)

2012-08-31 Thread Bob Sullivan
Steve, When you use Nikon equipment, you don't need to shoot RAW. Everybody knows that. Regards, Bob S. On Fri, Aug 31, 2012 at 1:59 PM, Steve Sharpe wrote: > He shoots JPEGs. He says RAW is a waste of time. > > http://www.kenrockwell.com/trips/2007-10-395/tech.htm > > 'Nuff said! > > -- > > Ste

Re: Please educate me (Kenny Boy)

2012-08-31 Thread Bruce Walker
You'll get a better education reading TOP: http://theonlinephotographer.typepad.com/the_online_photographer/2012/08/titletk.html On Fri, Aug 31, 2012 at 1:15 PM, Darren Addy wrote: > Alright. I had a Ranger IPA and let the desire to unsubscribe pass. My > Quality of Life Index stinks bad enough

Re: Please educate me (Kenny Boy)

2012-08-31 Thread Steve Sharpe
He shoots JPEGs. He says RAW is a waste of time. http://www.kenrockwell.com/trips/2007-10-395/tech.htm 'Nuff said! -- Steve Sharpe d...@eastlink.ca • http://earth.delith.com/photo_gallery.html -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to U

Re: Please educate me (Kenny Boy)

2012-08-31 Thread Bob Sullivan
Lots of pontificating, lots of words, not much information in that link. Sharpness matters to produce edge contrast in photos. And you can notice the difference without pixel peeping. I'm amazed he can write 2+pages of non-sense on the subject. Regards, Bob S. On Fri, Aug 31, 2012 at 12:15 PM, Da

Re: Please educate me (Kenny Boy)

2012-08-31 Thread Larry Colen
On Aug 31, 2012, at 10:15 AM, Darren Addy wrote: > Alright. I had a Ranger IPA and let the desire to unsubscribe pass. My > Quality of Life Index stinks bad enough right now without cutting > myself off from PDML (you see, I clearly have masochistic tendencies). > : \ > > I realize that "Kenny B

Re: Please educate me (Kenny Boy)

2012-08-31 Thread Jostein Øksne
nk I'll seek other sources for information that are more about the subject and less about other things. Jostein - Original Message - From: "Darren Addy" To: "Pentax-Discuss Mail List" Sent: Friday, August 31, 2012 7:15 PM Subject: Please educate me (Kenny Boy

Please educate me (Kenny Boy)

2012-08-31 Thread Darren Addy
Alright. I had a Ranger IPA and let the desire to unsubscribe pass. My Quality of Life Index stinks bad enough right now without cutting myself off from PDML (you see, I clearly have masochistic tendencies). : \ I realize that "Kenny Boy" is a widely reviled character here on PDML (and beyond), an