RE: Difference between 16-45 and 17-70

2009-04-15 Thread John Whittingham
x SLR/DSLR's very intuitive to use. Regards, John From: pdml-boun...@pdml.net [pdml-boun...@pdml.net] On Behalf Of Joseph McAllister [pentax...@mac.com] Sent: 14 April 2009 22:08 To: Pentax-Discuss Mail List Subject: Re: Difference between 16-45

Re: Difference between 16-45 and 17-70

2009-04-14 Thread Joseph McAllister
camera is usually set to AF-C for the majority of the time I use it. Regards, John From: pdml-boun...@pdml.net [pdml-boun...@pdml.net] On Behalf Of Joseph McAllister [pentax...@mac.com] Sent: 13 April 2009 23:00 To: Pentax-Discuss Mail List Subject

RE: Difference between 16-45 and 17-70

2009-04-14 Thread John Whittingham
t] On Behalf Of Thibouille [pentaxl...@gmail.com] Sent: 14 April 2009 10:06 To: Pentax-Discuss Mail List Subject: Re: Difference between 16-45 and 17-70 Except DA18-250 ;) On Tue, Apr 14, 2009 at 10:59 AM, John Whittingham wrote: > All DA lenses have Quick-shift focusing (manual overide) IIRC th

Re: Difference between 16-45 and 17-70

2009-04-14 Thread Thibouille
t; > Regards, > > John > > From: pdml-boun...@pdml.net [pdml-boun...@pdml.net] On Behalf Of Joseph > McAllister [pentax...@mac.com] > Sent: 13 April 2009 23:00 > To: Pentax-Discuss Mail List > Subject: Re: Difference between 16-45 and 17-

RE: Difference between 16-45 and 17-70

2009-04-14 Thread John Whittingham
...@pdml.net] On Behalf Of Joseph McAllister [pentax...@mac.com] Sent: 13 April 2009 23:00 To: Pentax-Discuss Mail List Subject: Re: Difference between 16-45 and 17-70 I probably shot a few test shots after it was unpacked, but I use the DA*16-50 on a regular basis for indoor and lower light shots. I

Re: Difference between 16-45 and 17-70

2009-04-13 Thread Thibouille
All DA have except 18-250. On Tue, Apr 14, 2009 at 12:00 AM, Joseph McAllister wrote: > I probably shot a few test shots after it was unpacked, but I use the > DA*16-50 on a regular basis for indoor and lower light shots. > > I don't think any of the DA lenses that are shaft driven only have focu

Re: Difference between 16-45 and 17-70

2009-04-13 Thread David J Brooks
I'm happy with my 16-45 but the 50-200 is a sleeper lens. Happy with the image quality Dave On Mon, Apr 13, 2009 at 6:07 PM, paul stenquist wrote: > Both the DA 16-45 and the DA 50-200 definitely have manual focus override. > All you have to do is turn the focus ring after the lens autofocuses.

Re: Difference between 16-45 and 17-70

2009-04-13 Thread paul stenquist
Both the DA 16-45 and the DA 50-200 definitely have manual focus override. All you have to do is turn the focus ring after the lens autofocuses. BTW, both are very good lenses for the money. Paul On Apr 13, 2009, at 6:00 PM, Joseph McAllister wrote: I probably shot a few test shots after it w

Re: Difference between 16-45 and 17-70

2009-04-13 Thread Joseph McAllister
I probably shot a few test shots after it was unpacked, but I use the DA*16-50 on a regular basis for indoor and lower light shots. I don't think any of the DA lenses that are shaft driven only have focus override. I've tried on many occasions to do so, and it won't move until you shift the

RE: Difference between 16-45 and 17-70

2009-04-13 Thread John Whittingham
regards, John From: pdml-boun...@pdml.net [pdml-boun...@pdml.net] On Behalf Of Thibouille [pentaxl...@gmail.com] Sent: 13 April 2009 15:16 To: Pentax-Discuss Mail List Subject: Re: Difference between 16-45 and 17-70 Number 304, june 2008. But I have a scanner

Re: Difference between 16-45 and 17-70

2009-04-13 Thread Nick Wright
You haven't used the 16-45 since you got it? On Mon, Apr 13, 2009 at 11:23 AM, Joseph McAllister wrote: > I misspoke on the 16-45. I meant the 16-50 (DA*). I don't think I've used > the 16-45 since I got it, so I know I'm dumb about it. > > On Apr 12, 2009, at 23:06 , Pawel Hottowy wrote: > >> I

Re: Difference between 16-45 and 17-70

2009-04-13 Thread Joseph McAllister
I misspoke on the 16-45. I meant the 16-50 (DA*). I don't think I've used the 16-45 since I got it, so I know I'm dumb about it. On Apr 12, 2009, at 23:06 , Pawel Hottowy wrote: I believe all the DAs have override. And I would be very happy to realize that my 16-45 is weather sealed, but I ce

Re: Difference between 16-45 and 17-70

2009-04-13 Thread David J Brooks
e.-) Dave > > These were taken in a steady heavy mist with frequent periods of rain, for 3 > hours.  I didn't dare change lenses! > > Rick > > http://photo.net/photos/RickW > > > --- On Mon, 4/13/09, Joseph McAllister wrote: > >> From: Joseph McAl

Re: Difference between 16-45 and 17-70

2009-04-13 Thread Thibouille
Number 304, june 2008. But I have a scanner ;) -- Thibault Massart aka Thibouille -- Photo: K10D,Z1,SuperA,KX,MX, P30t and KR-10x ;) ... Thinkpad: X23+UB,X60+UB Programing: D7 user (trying out D2007) -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/list

RE: Difference between 16-45 and 17-70

2009-04-13 Thread John Whittingham
Sent: 13 April 2009 09:11 To: Pentax-Discuss Mail List Subject: Re: Difference between 16-45 and 17-70 The DA17-70 is somewhat sealed, nothing compared to DA* but better than previous 'normal' DA's. I'd say, weathersealed 'à la Canon 5D' ? The 16-45 is Screwdive ON

Re: Difference between 16-45 and 17-70

2009-04-13 Thread Rick Womer
Rick http://photo.net/photos/RickW --- On Mon, 4/13/09, Joseph McAllister wrote: > From: Joseph McAllister > Subject: Re: Difference between 16-45 and 17-70 > To: "Pentax-Discuss Mail List" > Date: Monday, April 13, 2009, 12:05 AM > Another thing, it's weather s

Re: Difference between 16-45 and 17-70

2009-04-13 Thread Thibouille
The DA17-70 is somewhat sealed, nothing compared to DA* but better than previous 'normal' DA's. I'd say, weathersealed 'à la Canon 5D' ? The 16-45 is Screwdive ONLY and the 17-70 is SDM ONLY, which means no AF on K100D and previous DSLRs. Chasseur d'Images complained that the QuickShift wasn't a

Re: Difference between 16-45 and 17-70

2009-04-12 Thread Brian Walters
On Sun, 12 Apr 2009 23:06 -0700, "Pawel Hottowy" wrote: > I believe all the DAs have override. And I would be very happy to > realize that my 16-45 is weather sealed, but I certainly doubt so. BTW > the direct comparison of IQ between 16-45 and 17-70 would be great. Yes, I'm dubious about the

Re: Difference between 16-45 and 17-70

2009-04-12 Thread Pawel Hottowy
I believe all the DAs have override. And I would be very happy to realize that my 16-45 is weather sealed, but I certainly doubt so. BTW the direct comparison of IQ between 16-45 and 17-70 would be great. On Sun, Apr 12, 2009 at 9:18 PM, Joseph McAllister wrote: > Well, it has the rubber gasket o

Re: Difference between 16-45 and 17-70

2009-04-12 Thread Joseph McAllister
Well, it has the rubber gasket on the mount end, and on another note, has the quick over-ride manual focusing (all SDMs do, I guess). It may not be weather sealed on the barrels, but it certainly has the sealing ring on the mount end. On Apr 12, 2009, at 21:08 , Nick Wright wrote: The 17-

Re: Difference between 16-45 and 17-70

2009-04-12 Thread Nick Wright
The 17-70 is weather sealed? Can't find anything online that says that. On Sun, Apr 12, 2009 at 11:05 PM, Joseph McAllister wrote: > Another thing, it's weather sealed like the 16-45.. >  And super coated front element. > > > On Apr 12, 2009, at 18:07 , Nick Wright wrote: > >> Other than the obvi

Re: Difference between 16-45 and 17-70

2009-04-12 Thread Joseph McAllister
Another thing, it's weather sealed like the 16-45.. And super coated front element. On Apr 12, 2009, at 18:07 , Nick Wright wrote: Other than the obvious (1 mm wider, 25mm longer and SDM) what are the differences between these two lenses? Any at all? -- ~Nick David Wright http://www.nickd

Re: Difference between 16-45 and 17-70

2009-04-12 Thread Joseph McAllister
The 17-70 is SDM, takes a 67mm filter, and this evening, v1.03 firmware, indoors, was fast as stink to focus. Leave the i out of zip. That fast. $489 at B&H at the moment. On Apr 12, 2009, at 18:34 , Bob Sullivan wrote: Nick. Original DA 16-45 is f4 and screw drive not SDM. Newer DA16-50

Re: Difference between 16-45 and 17-70

2009-04-12 Thread Bob Sullivan
Nick. Original DA 16-45 is f4 and screw drive not SDM. Newer DA16-50 is f2.8 and expensive. Don't know about the 17-70 f4 Regards, Bob S. On Sun, Apr 12, 2009 at 8:07 PM, Nick Wright wrote: > Other than the obvious (1 mm wider, 25mm longer and SDM) what are the > differences between these two len