Re: Color Management --was Re: Grain Surgery for PS

2004-02-21 Thread Herb Chong
- Original Message - From: David Mann [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Friday, February 20, 2004 11:25 PM Subject: Re: Color Management --was Re: Grain Surgery for PS On Feb 21, 2004, at 04:25, graywolf wrote: I work in sRGB, simply because I find that is closer to a color print

RE: Grain Surgery for PS

2004-02-21 Thread David Miers
it by now, I'm done trying to explain. It's really very simple. Dave -Original Message- From: Herb Chong [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Thursday, February 19, 2004 8:56 PM To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: Re: Grain Surgery for PS i still don't understand Dave's comments since neither PSP 7

Re: Grain Surgery for PS

2004-02-21 Thread Herb Chong
Message - From: David Miers [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Saturday, February 21, 2004 12:48 PM Subject: RE: Grain Surgery for PS This has all been repeated several times on this thread. Sorry, but if you don't get it by now, I'm done trying to explain. It's really very

Re: Grain Surgery for PS

2004-02-20 Thread Herb Chong
doesn't come with PS or PSP. since i own both versions 1 and 2, i know what it is. Herb - Original Message - From: Alan Kerr [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Thursday, February 19, 2004 10:12 PM Subject: Re: Grain Surgery for PS Grain Surgery is a plug-in for PS

Re: Grain Surgery for PS

2004-02-20 Thread Herb Chong
Mayer Photography [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Thursday, February 19, 2004 11:00 PM Subject: RE: Grain Surgery for PS I know that you have discussed this recently and probably in this actual thread, so please don't hate me for asking, but until now it hasn't been relevant to me

Re: Grain Surgery for PS

2004-02-20 Thread Herb Chong
, February 19, 2004 11:42 PM Subject: RE: Grain Surgery for PS There has been some confusion here about how Grain Surgery is related to Photoshop. It is simply a plug-in for Photoshop. I'm trying to remember, but I think it can also be installed to elements or PSP. A trial version can be downloaded

Re: Grain Surgery for PS

2004-02-20 Thread Herb Chong
that's a starting point. then it has to be tuned for your exact picture tube's white point and black point. Herb... - Original Message - From: graywolf [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Friday, February 20, 2004 1:38 AM Subject: Re: Grain Surgery for PS Well, you can check

RE: Grain Surgery for PS

2004-02-20 Thread Peter Alling
, 2004 6:41 AM Subject: RE: Grain Surgery for PS I find Photoshop really poor at displaying images on screen too. When not viewing at 1:1 magnification you get REALLY bad Jaggies all over the place whereas PSP is fantastic. I just this last weekend has another go with Elements 2.0 because I REALLY

Re: Color Management --was Re: Grain Surgery for PS

2004-02-20 Thread Bill Owens
Most of my work comes from trannies and ends up as prints so I guess I can pick either :) FWIW I work in Adobe RGB then convert to sRGB for printing as that is what the lab handles. With the *ist D I shoot in Adobe RGB, then import via P.I.M. which converts to Epson RGB 2001 which I use for

RE: Grain Surgery for PS

2004-02-19 Thread Frits Wüthrich
, but usually better overall results in the end. But as for this post it only refers to after scanning processing, not scanning itself. -Original Message- From: Herb Chong [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Wednesday, February 18, 2004 9:14 PM To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: Re: Grain Surgery

Re: Grain Surgery for PS

2004-02-19 Thread Herb Chong
Message - From: David Miers [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Wednesday, February 18, 2004 10:22 PM Subject: RE: Grain Surgery for PS I'm not using Photoshop or grainsurgery for scanning itself. But actually the scanning program does make a difference IMHO. VueScan gets much

RE: Grain Surgery for PS

2004-02-19 Thread Rob Brigham
) thoughts and comments having used both pieces of software. -Original Message- From: Herb Chong [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: 19 February 2004 11:22 To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: Re: Grain Surgery for PS then i don't get the point of the reference to or the use of PSP 7

RE: Grain Surgery for PS

2004-02-19 Thread David Miers
editing in PSP7, but almost always finished up in PS. Does that make more sense you Herb? -Original Message- From: Herb Chong [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Thursday, February 19, 2004 6:22 AM To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: Re: Grain Surgery for PS then i don't get the point of the reference

Re: Grain Surgery for PS

2004-02-19 Thread Steve Jolly
and not to the printer. Herb... - Original Message - From: David Miers [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Wednesday, February 18, 2004 10:22 PM Subject: RE: Grain Surgery for PS I'm not using Photoshop or grainsurgery for scanning itself. But actually the scanning program does make

RE: Grain Surgery for PS

2004-02-19 Thread David Miers
(and anyone elses) thoughts and comments having used both pieces of software. -Original Message- From: Herb Chong [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: 19 February 2004 11:22 To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: Re: Grain Surgery for PS then i don't get the point of the reference to or the use of PSP

RE: Grain Surgery for PS

2004-02-19 Thread Rob Brigham
product? Full CS is gonna cost me the equivalent of about $1200US in the UK! -Original Message- From: Steve Jolly [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: 19 February 2004 20:03 To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: Re: Grain Surgery for PS Are you sure about that, Herb? Looking at the Color

Re: Grain Surgery for PS

2004-02-19 Thread Bruce Dayton
Hello Rob, I know how you feel about paying so much for the editor. Picture Window Pro does have full Color Management at a more liveable price ($90). You can find it here: http://www.dl-c.com This site has some good info on color management along with good info on PictureWindow Pro:

Re: Grain Surgery for PS

2004-02-19 Thread Herb Chong
is already calibrated anyway. Herb - Original Message - From: Rob Brigham [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Thursday, February 19, 2004 6:41 AM Subject: RE: Grain Surgery for PS I find Photoshop really poor at displaying images on screen too. When not viewing at 1:1

Re: Grain Surgery for PS

2004-02-19 Thread Herb Chong
: Thursday, February 19, 2004 6:21 PM Subject: RE: Grain Surgery for PS It wont work with true ICC profiles apparently. I am really struggling with profiles thingys though and just don't know how to go about cracking the issue. I had though that by switching to elements I would be able to do

Re: Grain Surgery for PS

2004-02-19 Thread Alan Kerr
can enable color management and assumes that the monitor is already calibrated anyway. Herb - Original Message - From: Rob Brigham [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Thursday, February 19, 2004 6:41 AM Subject: RE: Grain Surgery for PS I find Photoshop really poor

RE: Grain Surgery for PS

2004-02-19 Thread Tanya Mayer Photography
anyway. Herb - Original Message - From: Rob Brigham [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Thursday, February 19, 2004 6:41 AM Subject: RE: Grain Surgery for PS I find Photoshop really poor at displaying images on screen too. When not viewing at 1:1 magnification you get

Re: Color Management --was Re: Grain Surgery for PS

2004-02-19 Thread David Mann
On Feb 20, 2004, at 19:47, graywolf wrote: Another thing about color management is it can be done at the driver level (at least with my SIS video card) it uses the Hitachi monitor profiles, slightly customized by me, to provide color management at the system level. The Epson driver uses the

Re: Grain Surgery for PS

2004-02-18 Thread Herb Chong
i don't understand why the scanning program should make any difference. they are using the same TWAIN drivers and that controls what goes into your program. i have all of the programs and plugins you name and Grain Surgery is pretty good at removing noise, but it's on the expensive side. NeatImage