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From: David Mann [EMAIL PROTECTED]
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Sent: Friday, February 20, 2004 11:25 PM
Subject: Re: Color Management --was Re: Grain Surgery for PS
On Feb 21, 2004, at 04:25, graywolf wrote:
I work in sRGB, simply because I find that is closer to a color print
it by now, I'm done trying to explain. It's really very simple.
Dave
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From: Herb Chong [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
Sent: Thursday, February 19, 2004 8:56 PM
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Subject: Re: Grain Surgery for PS
i still don't understand Dave's comments since neither PSP 7
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From: David Miers [EMAIL PROTECTED]
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Sent: Saturday, February 21, 2004 12:48 PM
Subject: RE: Grain Surgery for PS
This has all been repeated several times on this thread. Sorry, but if
you
don't get it by now, I'm done trying to explain. It's really very
doesn't come with PS or PSP. since i own both versions 1 and 2, i know what
it is.
Herb
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From: Alan Kerr [EMAIL PROTECTED]
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Sent: Thursday, February 19, 2004 10:12 PM
Subject: Re: Grain Surgery for PS
Grain Surgery is a plug-in for PS
Mayer Photography [EMAIL PROTECTED]
To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Sent: Thursday, February 19, 2004 11:00 PM
Subject: RE: Grain Surgery for PS
I know that you have discussed this recently and probably in this actual
thread, so please don't hate me for asking, but until now it hasn't been
relevant to me
, February 19, 2004 11:42 PM
Subject: RE: Grain Surgery for PS
There has been some confusion here about how Grain Surgery is related to
Photoshop. It is simply a plug-in for Photoshop. I'm trying to remember,
but I think it can also be installed to elements or PSP.
A trial version can be downloaded
that's a starting point. then it has to be tuned for your exact picture
tube's white point and black point.
Herb...
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From: graywolf [EMAIL PROTECTED]
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Sent: Friday, February 20, 2004 1:38 AM
Subject: Re: Grain Surgery for PS
Well, you can check
, 2004 6:41 AM
Subject: RE: Grain Surgery for PS
I find Photoshop really poor at displaying images on screen too. When
not viewing at 1:1 magnification you get REALLY bad Jaggies all over the
place whereas PSP is fantastic.
I just this last weekend has another go with Elements 2.0 because I
REALLY
Most of my work comes from trannies and ends up as prints so I guess I
can pick either :) FWIW I work in Adobe RGB then convert to sRGB for
printing as that is what the lab handles.
With the *ist D I shoot in Adobe RGB, then import via P.I.M. which converts
to Epson RGB 2001 which I use for
,
but usually better overall results in the end. But as for this post it only
refers to after scanning processing, not scanning itself.
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From: Herb Chong [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
Sent: Wednesday, February 18, 2004 9:14 PM
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Subject: Re: Grain Surgery
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From: David Miers [EMAIL PROTECTED]
To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Sent: Wednesday, February 18, 2004 10:22 PM
Subject: RE: Grain Surgery for PS
I'm not using Photoshop or grainsurgery for scanning itself. But
actually
the scanning program does make a difference IMHO. VueScan gets much
) thoughts and
comments having used both pieces of software.
-Original Message-
From: Herb Chong [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
Sent: 19 February 2004 11:22
To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Subject: Re: Grain Surgery for PS
then i don't get the point of the reference to or the use of
PSP 7
editing
in PSP7, but almost always finished up in PS. Does that make more sense you
Herb?
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From: Herb Chong [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
Sent: Thursday, February 19, 2004 6:22 AM
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Subject: Re: Grain Surgery for PS
then i don't get the point of the reference
and not to the printer.
Herb...
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From: David Miers [EMAIL PROTECTED]
To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Sent: Wednesday, February 18, 2004 10:22 PM
Subject: RE: Grain Surgery for PS
I'm not using Photoshop or grainsurgery for scanning itself. But
actually
the scanning program does make
(and anyone elses) thoughts and
comments having used both pieces of software.
-Original Message-
From: Herb Chong [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
Sent: 19 February 2004 11:22
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Subject: Re: Grain Surgery for PS
then i don't get the point of the reference to or the use of
PSP
product? Full CS is gonna cost me the
equivalent of about $1200US in the UK!
-Original Message-
From: Steve Jolly [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
Sent: 19 February 2004 20:03
To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Subject: Re: Grain Surgery for PS
Are you sure about that, Herb? Looking at the Color
Hello Rob,
I know how you feel about paying so much for the editor. Picture
Window Pro does have full Color Management at a more liveable price
($90).
You can find it here:
http://www.dl-c.com
This site has some good info on color management along with good info
on PictureWindow Pro:
is
already calibrated anyway.
Herb
- Original Message -
From: Rob Brigham [EMAIL PROTECTED]
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Sent: Thursday, February 19, 2004 6:41 AM
Subject: RE: Grain Surgery for PS
I find Photoshop really poor at displaying images on screen too. When
not viewing at 1:1
: Thursday, February 19, 2004 6:21 PM
Subject: RE: Grain Surgery for PS
It wont work with true ICC profiles apparently.
I am really struggling with profiles thingys though and just don't know
how to go about cracking the issue. I had though that by switching to
elements I would be able to do
can enable color management and assumes that the monitor is
already calibrated anyway.
Herb
- Original Message -
From: Rob Brigham [EMAIL PROTECTED]
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Sent: Thursday, February 19, 2004 6:41 AM
Subject: RE: Grain Surgery for PS
I find Photoshop really poor
anyway.
Herb
- Original Message -
From: Rob Brigham [EMAIL PROTECTED]
To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Sent: Thursday, February 19, 2004 6:41 AM
Subject: RE: Grain Surgery for PS
I find Photoshop really poor at displaying images on screen too. When
not viewing at 1:1 magnification you get
On Feb 20, 2004, at 19:47, graywolf wrote:
Another thing about color management is it can be done at the driver
level (at least with my SIS video card) it uses the Hitachi monitor
profiles, slightly customized by me, to provide color management at
the system level. The Epson driver uses the
i don't understand why the scanning program should make any difference. they
are using the same TWAIN drivers and that controls what goes into your
program. i have all of the programs and plugins you name and Grain Surgery
is pretty good at removing noise, but it's on the expensive side. NeatImage
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