Re: London Olympics (no spoilers)

2012-08-10 Thread Steven Desjardins
You're on the PDML. That immediately invalidates the "normal" label. On Fri, Aug 10, 2012 at 3:08 AM, John Francis wrote: > > So there I was watching tonight's NBC coverage of the Decathlon final. > At one point I paused the playback. My wife remarked that any normal > male would have paused to

Re: London Olympics

2012-08-01 Thread knarftheria...@gmail.com
August 1, 2012 8/1/12 To: "Pentax-Discuss Mail List" Subject: Re: London Olympics I realize that the UK has no constitution, but what about "the rights of Englishmen"? The American colonies rebelled not because they thought the rights protecting citizens of England were insuf

Re: London Olympics

2012-08-01 Thread Anthony Farr
On 2 August 2012 03:21, John Sessoms wrote: > Don't mean nothin' but given the earlier discussion of "What is Hockey?", > take a look at today's (01Aug2012) Google Doodle. > As you rightly say, it "Don't mean nothin'..." Google is a US based corporation, and uses American English and American na

Re: London Olympics

2012-08-01 Thread steve harley
on 2012-07-31 16:50 AlunFoto - Jostein Øksne wrote I don't know if my impression of USA is accurate, but it comes across to here as offering no legal protection against slander to any person that is deemed, by some apparently magical consensus, to be a "public person". Seems no less worthy of a

RE: London Olympics

2012-08-01 Thread John Sessoms
Don't mean nothin' but given the earlier discussion of "What is Hockey?", take a look at today's (01Aug2012) Google Doodle. -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow

Re: London Olympics

2012-08-01 Thread Daniel J. Matyola
I realize that the UK has no constitution, but what about "the rights of Englishmen"? The American colonies rebelled not because they thought the rights protecting citizens of England were insufficient, but because they believed that those right were being denied to colonials. Initially, at least

Re: London Olympics

2012-08-01 Thread AlunFoto - Jostein Øksne
I don't know if my impression of USA is accurate, but it comes across to here as offering no legal protection against slander to any person that is deemed, by some apparently magical consensus, to be a "public person". Seems no less worthy of a medal to me. John Sessoms wrote: >British Police

RE: London Olympics

2012-07-31 Thread Bob W
> From: pdml-boun...@pdml.net [mailto:pdml-boun...@pdml.net] On Behalf Of > steve harley > > on 2012-07-31 16:44 steve harley wrote > > meanwhile, Twitter has banned, then reinstated, someone who tweeted > > the business email address of an NBC executive (in disgust over > > #NBCfail> > > and to

Re: London Olympics

2012-07-31 Thread steve harley
on 2012-07-31 16:44 steve harley wrote meanwhile, Twitter has banned, then reinstated, someone who tweeted the business email address of an NBC executive (in disgust over #NBCfail> and to continue our exploration of consequences for utterances, 'Italy's highest court has ruled that telling a m

Re: London Olympics

2012-07-31 Thread John Francis
I would think PDML members could give the British police a close run. I did not equate offensive posting to hate speech - I simply pointed out that there is no single universal definition, and that in every jurisdiction there is a somewhat arbitrary line drawn somewhere. I suspect the reported c

RE: London Olympics

2012-07-31 Thread Bob W
w me around shouting at me because I'm a member of the Loony Party, I can have you charged with harrassment. B > -Original Message- > From: pdml-boun...@pdml.net [mailto:pdml-boun...@pdml.net] On Behalf Of > Daniel J. Matyola > Sent: 31 July 2012 22:44 > To: Pentax

Re: London Olympics

2012-07-31 Thread John Sessoms
If I should tweet "I like cats!", I'm sure many cat haters would find that offensive. Thus are we reduced to the lowest thin skinned common denominator. It's rather extreme to elevate poor taste to the level of "hate speech". British Police win the gold for stupidity. From: John Francis As

RE: London Olympics

2012-07-31 Thread John Sessoms
No Constitution, so no First Amendment. From: "Daniel J. Matyola" I find this very strange. Is offensive tweeting really a crime in Britain? While the tweeter appears to be a jerk, didn't Daley increase the harm (if any) from the tweet by republishing it? UK police arrest teen for tweets a

Re: London Olympics

2012-07-31 Thread Walt Gilbert
On 7/31/2012 4:54 PM, Steve Cottrell wrote: On 31/7/12, Daniel J. Matyola, discombobulated, unleashed: I find this very strange. Is offensive tweeting really a crime in Britain? While the tweeter appears to be a jerk, didn't Daley increase the harm (if any) from the tweet by republishing it?

Re: London Olympics

2012-07-31 Thread Steve Cottrell
On 31/7/12, Daniel J. Matyola, discombobulated, unleashed: >I find this very strange. Is offensive tweeting really a crime in >Britain? While the tweeter appears to be a jerk, didn't Daley >increase the harm (if any) from the tweet by republishing it? The laws are being tested. It's a criminal

Re: London Olympics

2012-07-31 Thread Daniel J. Matyola
In the US, "hate speech" is actionable or criminal only if it is based on racial, religion or other classification, or if it is repeated often enough to become harassment or cyber stalking. If I tweet that a certain baseball player is a lazy inept bum, and an embarrassment to his family, that wou

Re: London Olympics

2012-07-31 Thread John Francis
As it says at the bottom of the article you quoted, tweeting messages considered menacing, offensive or indecent can lead to prosecution. Even in the USA, where "freedom of speech" is often taken to be synonymous with "freedom from any consequences of your speech" there is an exception for 'hate

Re: London Olympics

2012-07-31 Thread AlunFoto - Jostein Øksne
Wow... The first thing that went through my mind was that this criminalize stupidity in a public space. I can't see much good coming from that. :-( "Daniel J. Matyola" wrote: >I find this very strange. Is offensive tweeting really a crime in >Britain? While the tweeter appears to be a jerk,

Re: London Olympics 2012

2012-07-27 Thread Brian Walters
Quoting Bob W : Let's hope it's a good one. After a week of gloriously hot and sunny weather the day itself has dawned wet, just in time. You probably don't need this, but here is a guide for the perplexed: http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/magazine-18983558 Here's an excerpt from the bit about newspa

RE: London Olympics 2012

2012-07-26 Thread Bob W
Let's hope it's a good one. After a week of gloriously hot and sunny weather the day itself has dawned wet, just in time. You probably don't need this, but here is a guide for the perplexed: http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/magazine-18983558 Here's an excerpt from the bit about newspaper humour: 'In th