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From: graywolf [EMAIL PROTECTED]
To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Sent: Monday, August 02, 2004 1:31 AM
Subject: Re: MZ50 (or maybe 60) vs MZ5n viewfinder
GRIN!
You do not want to compare that 5n's viewfinder to a clean MX's. You would
immediately sell the camera, and never
Or possibly they have that feature planned for an upcoming
Professional-D based on the *ist-D body. Probably won't
be released thought.
Alan Chan wrote:
Sounds like a last mintue withdrew. :-(
Alan Chan
http://www.pbase.com/wlachan
*istD has interchangable screen, it is very easy to remove
[EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote on 02.08.04 10:26:
Now the finder on the D1 and D2h.Much different story. :-)
Please, tell us this story grandpa ;-) We want to hear.
--
Best Regards
Sylwek
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From: Alan Chan [EMAIL PROTECTED]
To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Sent: Monday, August 02, 2004 5:47 PM
Subject: Re: MZ50 (or maybe 60) vs MZ5n viewfinder
You just need a tiny rigid slot screwdriver to unclip it, though a
little
tricky if you haven't done it before. However
, 2004 8:00 AM
To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Subject: Re: MZ50 (or maybe 60) vs MZ5n viewfinder
Anyone ever tried cleaning the focusing screen of an mz 50 (or
similar) want
to share their experience? Don, perhaps? I was going to help a
friend clean
his, with advice from you guys. I see the clip
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Sent: Monday, August 02, 2004 6:19 AM
To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Subject: RE: MZ50 (or maybe 60) vs MZ5n viewfinder
Here are a couple of pics that Alan posted:
Shows that the small inner part of the clip that pulls toward you.
Then the whole thing hinges down.
The trick is having a tool that fits
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To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Sent: Monday, August 02, 2004 11:18 PM
Subject: RE: MZ50 (or maybe 60) vs MZ5n viewfinder
Here are a couple of pics that Alan posted:
Shows that the small inner part of the clip that pulls toward you.
Then the whole thing hinges down.
The trick is having a tool
This is for the MZ/ZX series, haven't seen the *ist D.
LX and MX come out too but have a much more obvious latch.
Don
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From: John Power [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Date: Mon, 2 Aug 2004 08:34:51 -0500
To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Subject: RE: MZ50 (or maybe 60) vs MZ5n viewfinder
Don
Anyone have a splitscreen on a 5n or a 3? Is that feasible?
Ryan
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From: Don Sanderson [EMAIL PROTECTED]
To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Sent: Monday, August 02, 2004 11:59 PM
Subject: RE: MZ50 (or maybe 60) vs MZ5n viewfinder
This is for the MZ/ZX series, haven't seen
John Power wrote on 02.08.04 15:33:
GREAT information. Do all Pentax cameras have the same clip and the same
flip down screen? How about the *istD? It looks as if there is a clip
there, even more accessible.
*istD has interchangable screen, it is very easy to remove just like in MZ-S
or
Don said:
This is for the MZ/ZX series, haven't seen the *ist D.
LX and MX come out too but have a much more obvious latch.
replying to:
GREAT information. Do all Pentax cameras have the same clip and the same
flip down screen?
Of course, *you* know (but I mention in case of readers
[EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote on 02.08.04 10:26:
Now the finder on the D1 and D2h.Much different story. :-)
Please, tell us this story grandpa ;-) We want to hear.
--
Best Regards
Sylwek
LOL.Ok kids here goes.
Its like looking out your
I think many MZ/ZX bodies have the same design, not sure about *istD. Pre-MZ
bodies should be completely different.
Alan Chan
http://www.pbase.com/wlachan
GREAT information. Do all Pentax cameras have the same clip and the same
flip down screen? How about the *istD? It looks as if there is a
Sounds like a last mintue withdrew. :-(
Alan Chan
http://www.pbase.com/wlachan
*istD has interchangable screen, it is very easy to remove just like in
MZ-S
or Z1P. Unfortunately it is smaller and Pentax has never produced any
screens other than standard for *istD :-(
You can use the MZ-M split screen which can be purchased from Pentax parts
department (can't buy from shops). The spot meter won't be predictable
however.
Alan Chan
http://www.pbase.com/wlachan
Anyone have a splitscreen on a 5n or a 3? Is that feasible?
Ryan
On 2004-08-02, at 23:09, Alan Chan wrote:
Sounds like a last mintue withdrew. :-(
Exactly. Just like a few other things. OK, I won't start another thread
before Photokina ;-) But anyway I think all these problems will be
corrected in Baby D :-)
--
Best regards
Sylwek
One of the reasons i went with the PZ-1 over the 5n was the finder.I felt the 5n was to
'closed in' for my
liking.
I'll be interested in the *istD response's as i'm very close to looking at one.
Dave Brooks
I was just comparing the viewfinder between my 5n
Doesn't the 5n have a pentaprism, while the 50 has a pentamirror. I suspect
that the journey through the glass gives the viewfinder image of the 5n the
warm cast.
regards,
Anthony Farr
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From: Ryan Lee [EMAIL PROTECTED]
(snip)
I was a
bit amazed to discover
Right! I remember reading that but it must have slipped my mind! Thanks.
Ryan
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From: Anthony Farr [EMAIL PROTECTED]
To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Sent: Sunday, August 01, 2004 9:33 PM
Subject: Re: MZ50 (or maybe 60) vs MZ5n viewfinder
Doesn't the 5n have a pentaprism
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To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Sent: Sunday, August 01, 2004 5:19 PM
Subject: Re: MZ50 (or maybe 60) vs MZ5n viewfinder
One of the reasons i went with the PZ-1 over the 5n was the finder.I felt
the 5n was to
'closed in' for my
liking.
I'll be interested in the *istD response's as i'm very close to looking
I think the viewfinder screen is one heck of a lot more
important than bells and whistles. I also think pre-autofocus
viewfinders tend to be a whole lot better.
Ryan Lee wrote:
I was just comparing the viewfinder between my 5n and a friend's 50.
snip...
Anybody notice the viewfinder difference
GRIN!
You do not want to compare that 5n's viewfinder to a clean MX's. You would
immediately sell the camera, and never take another photo for the rest of your life.
Consider what your mythical newbie would be comparing the viewfinder too? Then
you may want rethink your scenario.
--
Ryan Lee
On Sun, 1 Aug 2004, graywolf wrote:
You do not want to compare that 5n's viewfinder to a clean MX's.
You would immediately sell the camera, and never take another photo
for the rest of your life.
When I got my MX (just CLA'd) I didn't use the ZX-5n for quite a long
time. There were many
specks thru the viewfinder too. I know it doesn't affect the image, but is
it cleanable?
Cheers,
Ryan
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From: graywolf [EMAIL PROTECTED]
To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Sent: Monday, August 02, 2004 1:31 AM
Subject: Re: MZ50 (or maybe 60) vs MZ5n viewfinder
GRIN!
You do not want
seemed
to outshine the D100. Fascinating..
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From: Sylwester Pietrzyk [EMAIL PROTECTED]
To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Sent: Monday, August 02, 2004 4:58 AM
Subject: Re: MZ50 (or maybe 60) vs MZ5n viewfinder
On 2004-08-01, at 13:10, Ryan Lee wrote:
PS Anybody want to compare
Hi,
Ryan Lee wrote:
Two votes for an MX viewfinder (including Alex's).. Maybe I'll try scouting
used equipment just for a look and a play.
Add another one to that. I have only ever looked through one MX
viewfinder and it was a decidedly secondhand one at that. Nonetheless,
it was the best,
Hi,
Ryan Lee wrote:
Two votes for an MX viewfinder (including Alex's).. Maybe I'll try scouting
used equipment just for a look and a play.
Add another one to that. I have only ever looked through one MX
viewfinder and it was a decidedly secondhand one at that. Nonetheless,
it
When I bought the Z-1p, MZ-5n was shown to me and the MZ-5n viewfinder was
much inferior for manual focus. But then again, when compared with pre-AF
cameras, Z-1p doesn't look good either, thanks to the plastic eyepiece.
Alan Chan
http://www.pbase.com/wlachan
'Closed in'? How do you mean
It has a lot to do with the eyepiece magnification, then the pentaprism,
and screen last.
Alan Chan
http://www.pbase.com/wlachan
I think the viewfinder screen is one heck of a lot more
important than bells and whistles. I also think pre-autofocus
viewfinders tend to be a whole lot better.
I do miss the MX viewfinder which is big and clear even with the old screen.
Not even the LX is as good.
Alan Chan
http://www.pbase.com/wlachan
You do not want to compare that 5n's viewfinder to a clean MX's. You would
immediately sell the camera, and never take another photo for the rest of
(and MZ-S has the best viewfinder among Pentax AF SLRs).
Except the magnification is really low for manual focus.
Nothing but physics law - smaller surface of matte screen gathers more
light... It has rather warm cast to the picture.
I think the eyepiece is part of the equation too.
Alan Chan
Just remove the screen and blow of the dust. You might even fit a MZ-M
screen for split image.
Alan Chan
http://www.pbase.com/wlachan
And about comparing the viewfinder to say a point and shoot, the mz50's
viewfinder wasn't too much better. The sample I got to play with had black
specks thru the
I guess, I come across as an awful snob. There are two things to think of here.
First, if the camera suits your needs, it suits your needs. There is nothing
more that needs be said.
Second, I think, a lot of us old timers spent a lot of time perfecting skills.
Then along came automation that
Great post, valid points. Everyone should read this.
Paul
On Aug 1, 2004, at 9:50 PM, graywolf wrote:
I guess, I come across as an awful snob. There are two things to think
of here.
First, if the camera suits your needs, it suits your needs. There is
nothing more that needs be said.
Second, I
Hi,
I don't suppose there's a (pro) fix to make my (newbie) ZX-M
viewfinder any better? I've never used any other MF body but I know
from comparing specs that it's small, and not terribly bright. It's
also got specks of dust on it, but the screen's 'fixed' so I don't
know if it's cleanable. I
in place.
Not hard if you're patient and gentle.
Nothing much else you can do for it though.
Don
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From: Badri A [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
Sent: Sunday, August 01, 2004 9:08 PM
To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Subject: Re: MZ50 (or maybe 60) vs MZ5n viewfinder
Hi,
I don't
the SF story graywolf mentions is 'A Feeling of Power' by Isaac
Asimov, I think. A lowly technician 'discovers' division and the
military gets interested in the human algebra project because of the
potential of having 'unmachined' combat vehicles that'd give them the
competitive edge. Asimov
Thanks, Don. I'll try it when I'm feeling brave enough.. Badri.
There's a small release clip hiding behind the mirror bumper foam that
releases the focusing screen.
A paper clip with a bent end works to release it.
If it is any consolation, I have always hated microprism focusing aids in the
viewfinder. I do understand that the viewfinder sceen in the ZX-M can be
changed, but I personally have never used the camera so can not tell you how.
--
Badri A wrote:
Hi,
I don't suppose there's a (pro) fix to
Just to make you feel a little better.
http://www3.telus.net/wlachan/MZ-Mscreen0.jpg
http://www3.telus.net/wlachan/MZ-Mscreen1.jpg
Alan Chan
http://www.pbase.com/wlachan
Thanks, Don. I'll try it when I'm feeling brave enough.. Badri.
There's a small release clip hiding behind the mirror bumper
Oh that's great.. I didn't know that was possible. Any more detailed
instructions Alan?
Thanks,
Ryan
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From: Alan Chan [EMAIL PROTECTED]
To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Sent: Monday, August 02, 2004 10:30 AM
Subject: Re: MZ50 (or maybe 60) vs MZ5n viewfinder
Just remove
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