On Tue, 12 Jul 2005 22:46:05 -0400 (EDT), D. Glenn Arthur Jr. wrote:
> Yours for more precise speech,
Dear God, how would the press and politicians survive if that caught
on? :-)
TTYL, DougF KG4LMZ
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From: "D. Glenn Arthur Jr."
Subject: OT OT OT -- Re: Definitions WAS Re: London Bombing update
A soldier attacks the enemy and the enemy's resources in an attempt
to destroy said enemy or force him to withdraw. Violence is directed
at accomplishing a goal.
W
how about bombing shit out of a city (say, dresden) with conventional
bombs? how about "shock and awe"? why do we say, killing a few dozen
on a bus (or a few hundred in a business tower) is terrorism,
while killing same hundreds in an air strike is "collateral damage"?
how about killing civilian co
Mishka wrote:
how about bombing shit out of a city (say, dresden) with conventional
bombs? how about "shock and awe"? why do we say, killing a few dozen
on a bus (or a few hundred in a business tower) is terrorism,
while killing same hundreds in an air strike is "collateral damage"?
how about kil
D. Glenn Arthur Jr. wrote:
Keith wrote:
Mishka wrote:
> the difference between "terrorists" and
> "freedom fighters" (or "partisans", "resistance",
> and so forth) has always been arbitrary.
>
> best,
> mishka
Not really...
Terrorists attack seemingly indiscriminately, Russia, Israel, the U
I don't want to get involved in this argument can you guys please take
it off list.
William Robb wrote:
- Original Message - From: "D. Glenn Arthur Jr."
Subject: OT OT OT -- Re: Definitions WAS Re: London Bombing update
A soldier attacks the enemy and the enemy's resources in an
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From: "P. J. Alling"
Subject: Re: OT OT OT -- Re: Definitions WAS Re: London Bombing update
I don't want to get involved in this argument can you guys please take
it off list.
Hopefully, it's run it's course.
William Robb
There's a lot of nonsense going on here wherein some folks are saying that
the word "terrorist" is being used indiscriminately to identify someone
whose politics we don't agree with and who fights for those politics. There
are billions on this planet, so I'm sure there are some somewhere who
ac
On Wed, 13 Jul 2005 22:06:46 -0700, Bob Blakely wrote:
> The word "terrorist" is used to denote a person who chooses to
> instill terror in a noncombatant populous by destroying innocents
> such as children, students, and or a general population regardless
> of their populous. It's a function of
--
From: "Bob Blakely" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
To:
Sent: Thursday, July 14, 2005 7:06 AM
Subject: Re: OT OT OT -- Re: Definitions WAS Re: London Bombing update
There's a lot of nonsense going on here wherein some folks are
saying that the word "terrorist" is being used
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From: "Bob Blakely"
Subject: Re: OT OT OT -- Re: Definitions WAS Re: London Bombing update
The word "terrorist" is used to denote a person who chooses to instill
terror in a noncombatant populous by destroying innocents such as
children
This one time, at band camp, "Bob Blakely" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> The word
> "terrorist" is used to denote a person who chooses to instill terror in a
> noncombatant populous by destroying innocents such as children, students,
> and or a general population regardless of their populous. I
of hissing."
- Jean-Baptiste Colbert,
minister of finance to French King Louis XIV
From: "William Robb" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
From: "Bob Blakely"
Subject: Re: OT OT OT -- Re: Definitions WAS Re: London Bombing update
The word "terrorist" is used to
Hmm...
So you are saying that the Americans chose to instill terror in the
noncombatant Iraqi populous by targeting and destroying innocents such as
children, students, and the general Iraqi population irrespective of their
politics concerning Sadam's regime, and it was America's intention to
Ever hear of colateral damage?
Kenneth Waller
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From: Kevin Waterson <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Subject: Re: OT OT OT -- Re: Definitions WAS Re: London Bombing update
This one time, at band camp, "Bob Blakely" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> The word
unt of hissing."
- Jean-Baptiste Colbert,
minister of finance to French King Louis XIV
From: "Kenneth Waller" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Ever hear of colateral damage?
Kenneth Waller
From: Kevin Waterson <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
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tion of killing
innocents.
Sorry, but in war things get broken and people are killed (sometimes innocent
people).
Sorry if my message wasn't clearly stated.
Kenneth Waller
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From: "Kenneth Waller"
Subject: Re: OT OT OT -- Re: Definitions WAS Re: London Bombing update
Ever hear of colateral damage?
Thats when a suicide bomber kills 18 children to get the 3 servicemen he was
after, right?
William Robb
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From: "Bob Blakely"
Subject: Re: OT OT OT -- Re: Definitions WAS Re: London Bombing update
You're being obtuse, Willie. Try just saying what you think.
I have too many friends of the American persuasion on list (you included, oh
Bombastic
sible amount of feathers
with the smallest possible amount of hissing."
- Jean-Baptiste Colbert,
minister of finance to French King Louis XIV
From: "William Robb" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
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From: "Bob Blakely"
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h the smallest possible amount of hissing."
- Jean-Baptiste Colbert,
minister of finance to French King Louis XIV
From: "William Robb" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
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From: "Kenneth Waller"
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one who wants to kill others and doesn't mind killing
himself in the process.
Kenneth Waller
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>
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&
ever been one?
mishka
On 7/14/05, Kenneth Waller <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> Ever hear of colateral damage?
>
> Kenneth Waller
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From: "Bob Blakely"
Subject: Re: OT OT OT -- Re: Definitions WAS Re: London Bombing update
Damn, Willie! I'd only hate ya for 90 seconds. My attention span isn't any
longer...
What were we arguing about?
Were we arguing?
William Robb
This one time, at band camp, Kenneth Waller <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> These effects (killing of noncombatants in Baghdad) were secondary to the
> intended action (ridding the country of Saddam government).
All for a few drops of oil, unless you really believe the WMD story.
> I don't believe
>ever been one?
There's alot I haven't been.
What's your pount?
Kenneth Waller
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From: Mishka <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
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ever been one?
mishka
On 7/14/05, Kenneth Waller &
Believe what you want to believe.
Kenneth Waller
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From: Kevin Waterson <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
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This one time, at band camp, Kenneth Waller <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> These effe
Ah... right...
From: "Kevin Waterson" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
What I fear as an Australian is not so much the Taliban, Al Queada etc
it is America. Look at countries that have been allies of the USA in
the past. They look rather bleak now when they were so well before
being allied to the USofA[sic]
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From: "Bob Blakely"
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Exactly what is it about what any other country allied with the USA which
is really not their own responsibility and choice?
Uhh Bob, you guys tie a lo
inister of finance to French King Louis XIV
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To: "Pentax Discuss"
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From: "Bob Blakely"
Subject: Re: OT OT OT -- Re: Definitions WAS Re: London Bombing update
No one here is whining. We're mad as hell AND doing something about it -
and we're not asking your permission - and we're never going to. Get use
On 15/7/05, Bob Blakely, discombobulated, unleashed:
>What is bleak about England and how is that attributed to the USA?
I concede.
McDonalds.
Cheers,
Cotty
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Freedom is not free and it's not a capital asset. Each generation must pay
its price for liberty. We took the hit with Pearl Harbor and our merchant
marine took the hit supplying Briton during WWII. We were aware that the
consequences of stopping Hiro Hito and Hitler would be the taking of
hund
I wish I'd thought of that!
--
Cheers,
Bob
> -Original Message-
> From: Cotty [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
>
> On 15/7/05, Bob Blakely, discombobulated, unleashed:
>
> >What is bleak about England and how is that attributed to the USA?
>
> I concede.
>
> McDonalds.
I had hamburgers in England before the advent of McDonalds there...
Are you sure about that?
Cotty wrote:
On 15/7/05, Bob Blakely, discombobulated, unleashed:
What is bleak about England and how is that attributed to the USA?
I concede.
McDonalds.
Cheers,
Cotty
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He didn't say hamburgers, he said McDonalds. Hamburgers have been around
since the Roman Empire.
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Cheers,
Bob
> -Original Message-
> From: P. J. Alling [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
> Sent: 16 July 2005 00:10
> To: pentax-discuss@pdml.net
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From: P. J. Alling [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
Sent: 16 July 2005 00:10
To: pentax-discuss@pdml.net
Subject: Re: OT OT OT -- Re: Definitions WAS Re: London Bombing update
I had hamburgers in England before the advent of McDonalds there...
Are you sure about that?
Cotty wrote:
On 15/7/
I think he's saying maybe McD's didn't make it worse.
Regards,
Bob...
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"The art of taxation consists in so plucking the goose
as to obtain the largest possible amount of feathers
with the smallest possible amount of hissing."
- Jean
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> From: Mishka <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
> Subject: Re: OT OT OT -- Re: Definitions WAS Re: London Bombing update
>
> ever been one?
>
> mishka
>
> On 7/14/05, Kenneth Waller <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> > Ever hear of colateral damage?
> >
> > Kenneth Waller
unfortunately, it's people who are very unhappy with the current situation
who are paying the consequences. like in nyc, london and madrid.
those who are "pissed eagles" are safe either in armored cars, or in the
middle of nowhere. pretty convenient.
mishka
On 7/15/05, William Robb <[EMAIL PROTEC
entax-discuss@pdml.net
Subject: Re: OT OT OT -- Re: Definitions WAS Re: London Bombing update
that you better shut up, talking about "collateral damage".
mishka
On 7/15/05, Kenneth Waller <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> >ever been one?
>
> There's alot I ha
On 7/15/05, Kenneth Waller <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
>
> >that you better shut up, talking about "collateral damage".
>
> Or what
or you miay find it difficult to cope if (god forbid) someone close to you
becomes one. i think this is a really lame euphemism for "kids we killed
and don't gi
Cotty,
Big Macs have been known to grow hair on your head...
Regards, Bob S.
On 7/15/05, Cotty <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> On 15/7/05, Bob Blakely, discombobulated, unleashed:
>
> >What is bleak about England and how is that attributed to the USA?
>
> I concede.
>
> McDonalds.
>
>
>
>
> C
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From: "Bob Sullivan"
Subject: Re: OT OT OT -- Re: Definitions WAS Re: London Bombing update
Cotty,
Big Macs have been known to grow hair on your head...
Wasn't that one of the slogans early on?
WW
On 15/7/05, P. J. Alling, discombobulated, unleashed:
>I had hamburgers in England before the advent of McDonalds there...
>Are you sure about that?
Yes.
Cheers,
Cotty
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On 15/7/05, Bob Sullivan, discombobulated, unleashed:
>Big Macs have been known to grow hair on your head...
Just off to my job interview at the local McD's :-)
Cheers,
Cotty
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So are you going to the one across the street (Oxford St.?) from the Pret,
or the one out by the round-a-bout?
(Just remember, if there's time to lean, there's time to clean.)
Regards, Bob S.
On 7/16/05, Cotty <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> On 15/7/05, Bob Sullivan, discombobulated, unleashed:
>
On 16/7/05, Bob Sullivan, discombobulated, unleashed:
>So are you going to the one across the street (Oxford St.?) from the Pret,
>or the one out by the round-a-bout?
Oh, there's a small one near the TV studio in Abingdon. The class of
student they have in there beggars belief. I think one of the
On Sat, Jul 16, 2005 at 06:12:42AM +0100, Cotty wrote:
> On 15/7/05, P. J. Alling, discombobulated, unleashed:
>
> >I had hamburgers in England before the advent of McDonalds there...
> >Are you sure about that?
>
> Yes.
Anyone who considers McDonalds to be the nadir of bad hamburgers
has nev
White Castle burgers were often called "belly bombs" . But what can
you expect for an 8-cent burger (yes, that's what they cost at one time!)
Shel
> [Original Message]
> From: John Francis
> Anyone who considers McDonalds to be the nadir of bad hamburgers
> has never sampled the culinary d
Shel Belinkoff wrote:
White Castle burgers were often called "belly bombs" . But what can
you expect for an 8-cent burger (yes, that's what they cost at one time!)
Shel
Yeah, 8¢, but remember they were not much bigger than a 50¢ piece!
More than once I got their 6 for a quarter, or whatev
White Tower hamburgers were better. Same size on a round bun (actually they
were bigger (3 bites). 12 for a buck. But those were walk in fast food places
for pedestrians (You stopped off after getting off the trolly and carried them
the rest of the way home) When the last pedestrian died they w
A number of upscale eateries, including one somewhat toney place in NY, the
name of which I've forgotten, serve upscale versions of White Castle Burgers,
or "sliders" as their commonly called. The combination of the sauted onions,
thin burger, and pickle slice can be quite goood when prepared ju
From: "Mishka" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
those who are "pissed eagles" are safe either in armored cars, or in the
middle of nowhere. pretty convenient.
This is an error in logic commonly called a "Hasty generalization" (Secundum
quid).
Land Rovers are not (commonly) armored and mine is factory st
Glenn,
If I didn't know better, I'd think you might be a conservative.
Hopefully Useful History:
Even during WWII the US, in a legitimate & moral war, used large-scale terror
tactics 4 times (that I'm familiar with). Hiroshima, Nagasaki, fire-bombing
Tokyo, and bombing the civilian target Dres
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