Re: Pentax D FA* 400/4 ED IF

2006-10-06 Thread Cotty
On 6/10/06, Gonz, discombobulated, unleashed: Anyone want a brain? One owner, only lightly used... You might get some offers in the Canon forum. :) Or you could join the collective http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v233/montsnmags/BorgEF.jpg -- Cheers, Cotty ___/\__ ||

Re: Pentax D FA* 400/4 ED IF

2006-10-06 Thread Sylwester Pietrzyk
On 06.10.2006, at 08:34 , Cotty wrote: Or you could join the collective http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v233/montsnmags/BorgEF.jpg Oh no! Did Canon changed you that much Cotty??? ;-) Pozdrowienia Sylwek -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net

Re: Pentax D FA* 400/4 ED IF

2006-10-06 Thread Kostas Kavoussanakis
On Thu, 5 Oct 2006, John Celio wrote: Because there's no actual gain from making a subframe lens at that length, so no reason to do a DA lens. Could you explain further? I was wondering why the long lenses were D-FA too, and I'm not sure I understand what you mean. Not sure anyone replied

Re: Pentax D FA* 400/4 ED IF

2006-10-06 Thread Pål Jensen
- Original Message - From: Joseph Tainter [EMAIL PROTECTED] Another part of the rumor is that it might be an F5.6. We will just have to wait and see. I sincerely hope not. Such lenses are rather passè today and much better served by zooms; like 80-400/5.6. A 400/4 is about the

Re: Pentax D FA* 400/4 ED IF

2006-10-06 Thread Godfrey DiGiorgi
On Oct 6, 2006, at 1:06 PM, Pål Jensen wrote: I sincerely hope not. Such lenses are rather passè today and much better served by zooms; like 80-400/5.6. A 400/4 is about the longest and fastest lens that can be handheld, a real bonus with Pentax SR. In addition it will work well and

Re: Pentax D FA* 400/4 ED IF

2006-10-06 Thread pnstenquist
I use my 400 on a tripod where practical. But I frequently use it handheld as well. For example when shooting birds in flight. For that both the speed of the f4 lens and the SR of the K10D will give be a big advantage over my current A4009/5.6 on the *istD. Paul -- Original message

Re: Pentax D FA* 400/4 ED IF

2006-10-06 Thread Gonz
[EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: On 6/10/06, Gonz, discombobulated, unleashed: Anyone want a brain? One owner, only lightly used... You might get some offers in the Canon forum. :) Or you could join the collective http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v233/montsnmags/BorgEF.jpg

Re: Pentax D FA* 400/4 ED IF

2006-10-06 Thread Alan Chan
Another part of the rumor is that it might be an F5.6. We will just have to wait and see. I sincerely hope not. Such lenses are rather passè today and much better served by zooms; like 80-400/5.6. A 400/4 is about the longest and fastest lens that can be handheld, a real bonus with Pentax SR.

RE: Pentax D FA* 400/4 ED IF

2006-10-06 Thread Tim Øsleby
List Subject: Re: Pentax D FA* 400/4 ED IF I use my 400 on a tripod where practical. But I frequently use it handheld as well. For example when shooting birds in flight. For that both the speed of the f4 lens and the SR of the K10D will give be a big advantage over my current A4009/5.6 on the *istD

Re: Pentax D FA* 400/4 ED IF

2006-10-06 Thread William Robb
- Original Message - From: Tim Øsleby Subject: RE: Pentax D FA* 400/4 ED IF Now I understand why they call you Steady. Handholding a 4009mm is quite an achievement. I bet it's a mirror lens. William Robb -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman

Re: Pentax D FA* 400/4 ED IF

2006-10-06 Thread John Francis
On Fri, Oct 06, 2006 at 01:12:57PM -0600, William Robb wrote: - Original Message - From: Tim ?sleby Subject: RE: Pentax D FA* 400/4 ED IF Now I understand why they call you Steady. Handholding a 4009mm is quite an achievement. I bet it's a mirror lens. Would

Re: Pentax D FA* 400/4 ED IF

2006-10-06 Thread Kenneth Waller
Now I understand why they call you Steady. Handholding a 4009mm is quite an achievement. No. Getting an acceptable image is quite an achievement. ;+} Kenneth Waller - Original Message - From: Tim Øsleby [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: RE: Pentax D FA* 400/4 ED IF Now I understand why

Re: Pentax D FA* 400/4 ED IF

2006-10-05 Thread Alan Chan
Why D-FA, not DA? Regards, Alan Chan - Original Message - From: Pål Jensen [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: Pentax-Discuss Mail List pdml@pdml.net Sent: Thursday, 5 October, 2006 13:11 Subject: Pentax D FA* 400/4 ED IF There are rumors at Dpreview that such a lens is indeed in the works. Can

Re: Pentax D FA* 400/4 ED IF

2006-10-05 Thread Sylwester Pietrzyk
On 05.10.06, at 22:11 , Pål Jensen wrote: There are rumors at Dpreview that such a lens is indeed in the works. Can anyone confirm this? This is a dream lens for me It is not on the new roadmap. But who knows if they plan to release it after new 200 and 300 mm??? -- Pozdrowienia Sylwek

Re: Pentax D FA* 400/4 ED IF

2006-10-05 Thread Pål Jensen
- Original Message - From: Alan Chan [EMAIL PROTECTED] Why D-FA, not DA? REPLY: Because it doesn't make much sense to make long telephoto lenses with restricted image circles. A 400/4 will be exactly equally long and have exactly equally large front element in both D FA* form and

Re: Pentax D FA* 400/4 ED IF

2006-10-05 Thread Pål Jensen
Yes, thats what the rumor said. Second half of 2007 after the D FA* 200/2.8 ED IF and the D FA* 300/4 ED IF. - Original Message - From: Sylwester Pietrzyk [EMAIL PROTECTED] It is not on the new roadmap. But who knows if they plan to release it after new 200 and 300 mm??? --

Re: Pentax D FA* 400/4 ED IF

2006-10-05 Thread Adam Maas
Because there's no actual gain from making a subframe lens at that length, so no reason to do a DA lens. -Adam Alan Chan wrote: Why D-FA, not DA? Regards, Alan Chan - Original Message - From: Pål Jensen [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: Pentax-Discuss Mail List pdml@pdml.net Sent:

Re: Pentax D FA* 400/4 ED IF

2006-10-05 Thread Sylwester Pietrzyk
On 05.10.06, at 22:23 , Alan Chan wrote: Why D-FA, not DA? Perhaps because planned 200 and 300 are DFA and it seems that making reduced circle long telephoto lenses doesn't make sens. BTW - welcome back Alan - you were absent on PDML for a quite long period :-) -- Cheers, Sylwek --

Re: Pentax D FA* 400/4 ED IF

2006-10-05 Thread John Celio
Because there's no actual gain from making a subframe lens at that length, so no reason to do a DA lens. Could you explain further? I was wondering why the long lenses were D-FA too, and I'm not sure I understand what you mean. John Celio -- http://www.neovenator.com AIM: Neopifex Hey,

Re: Pentax D FA* 400/4 ED IF

2006-10-05 Thread Alan Chan
On 05.10.06, at 22:23 , Alan Chan wrote: Why D-FA, not DA? Perhaps because planned 200 and 300 are DFA and it seems that making reduced circle long telephoto lenses doesn't make sens. BTW - welcome back Alan - you were absent on PDML for a quite long period :-) -- Cheers, Sylwek

Re: Pentax D FA* 400/4 ED IF

2006-10-05 Thread Alan Chan
REPLY: Because it doesn't make much sense to make long telephoto lenses with restricted image circles. A 400/4 will be exactly equally long and have exactly equally large front element in both D FA* form and in DA* form. Pål Should it be safe to assume then, 1) FF is still coming, 2) D-FA* 200

Re: Pentax D FA* 400/4 ED IF

2006-10-05 Thread Adam Maas
It's pretty simple, the only difference would be in the mount, as the optical design is driven by the max aperture and required resolution. And since the mount is essentially the same, why not make it full-frame? There's a number of cases where such long lens designs were used for both MF and

Re: Pentax D FA* 400/4 ED IF

2006-10-05 Thread Sylwester Pietrzyk
On 05.10.06, at 23:02 , Alan Chan wrote: Should it be safe to assume then, 1) FF is still coming, 2) D-FA* 200 300 will have the same optics as FA*? I doubt it. Upcoming 300 according to rumours is planned to be f4.0 not f4.5 like F* and FA* version ;-) -- Cheers, Sylwek -- PDML

Re: Pentax D FA* 400/4 ED IF

2006-10-05 Thread Gonz
But will it be USM and weather sealed I wonder. rg [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: There are rumors at Dpreview that such a lens is indeed in the works. Can anyone confirm this? This is a dream lens for me Pål -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net

Re: Pentax D FA* 400/4 ED IF

2006-10-05 Thread Jon Myers
Oh, weather sealing would be nice... slap it on my LX and I could railfan in the rain! :p --- Gonz [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: But will it be USM and weather sealed I wonder. rg [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: There are rumors at Dpreview that such a lens is indeed in the works. Can

Re: Pentax D FA* 400/4 ED IF

2006-10-05 Thread Doug Franklin
Pål Jensen wrote: There are rumors at Dpreview that such a lens is indeed in the works. Can anyone confirm this? This is a dream lens for me If they make it, I'll almost certainly buy it. All depends on the price. -- Thanks, DougF (KG4LMZ) -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net

Re: Pentax D FA* 400/4 ED IF

2006-10-05 Thread Paul Stenquist
I would guess it will be at least $2000. The A 400/5.6 was $1400 new. Paul On Oct 5, 2006, at 8:06 PM, Doug Franklin wrote: Pål Jensen wrote: There are rumors at Dpreview that such a lens is indeed in the works. Can anyone confirm this? This is a dream lens for me If they make it, I'll

Re: Pentax D FA* 400/4 ED IF

2006-10-05 Thread j
You be looking at least $2800.00 At 08:07 PM 10/5/06, you wrote: I would guess it will be at least $2000. The A 400/5.6 was $1400 new. Paul On Oct 5, 2006, at 8:06 PM, Doug Franklin wrote: Pål Jensen wrote: There are rumors at Dpreview that such a lens is indeed in the works. Can anyone

Re: Pentax D FA* 400/4 ED IF

2006-10-05 Thread Doug Franklin
j wrote: You be looking at least $2800.00 At 08:07 PM 10/5/06, Paul wrote: I would guess it will be at least $2000. The A 400/5.6 was $1400 new. At US$ 2000 I might be able to find a way to afford it. At US$ 2800 it ain't gonna happen unless someone starts paying me to shoot. Maybe if

Re: Pentax D FA* 400/4 ED IF

2006-10-05 Thread Joseph Tainter
There are rumors at Dpreview that such a lens is indeed in the works. Can anyone confirm this? Another part of the rumor is that it might be an F5.6. We will just have to wait and see. Joe -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net

Re: Pentax D FA* 400/4 ED IF

2006-10-05 Thread David Mann
On Oct 6, 2006, at 9:11 AM, Pål Jensen wrote: There are rumors at Dpreview that such a lens is indeed in the works. Can anyone confirm this? This is a dream lens for me Oh no, I think I'm going to have to sell my organs :( Anyone want a brain? One owner, only lightly used... - Dave

Re: Pentax D FA* 400/4 ED IF

2006-10-05 Thread Gonz
[EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: On Oct 6, 2006, at 9:11 AM, Pål Jensen wrote: There are rumors at Dpreview that such a lens is indeed in the works. Can anyone confirm this? This is a dream lens for me Oh no, I think I'm going to have to sell my organs :( Anyone want a brain? One owner,