Re: Pixel size

2006-03-20 Thread Alexandru-Cristian Sarbu
On 3/19/06, Jack Davis [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Are the Pentax D lenses that precise in their image circle coverage? In passing (somewhere) I've read of a claimed 1.3 crop factor. You seem certain. Do you remember where you read it? Jack We know they're not that precise - but I wouldn't bet

Re: Pixel size

2006-03-20 Thread Jack Davis
Alex, Can I show you an APS-H version? Explain. I think it would be a mistake for Pentax not to price the up-coming 10MP at a level just under the D200. At the moment I don't recall the 30D pricing. IMHO, being late to that pricing segment of the market requires a bit of catching up. Save the

Re: Pixel size

2006-03-20 Thread Adam Maas
Alexandru-Cristian Sarbu wrote: On 3/19/06, Jack Davis [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Are the Pentax D lenses that precise in their image circle coverage? In passing (somewhere) I've read of a claimed 1.3 crop factor. You seem certain. Do you remember where you read it? Jack We know they're not

Re: Pixel size

2006-03-20 Thread Alexandru-Cristian Sarbu
On 3/20/06, Jack Davis [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Alex, Can I show you an APS-H version? Explain. I think it would be a mistake for Pentax not to price the up-coming 10MP at a level just under the D200. At the moment I don't recall the 30D pricing. IMHO, being late to that pricing segment of

Re: Pixel size

2006-03-20 Thread Alexandru-Cristian Sarbu
On 3/20/06, Adam Maas [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Yes, in fact there's two different 10MP sensors available for 1.3x crop. The first is used in the Leica Digital Module-R, and the second is a different sensor used in the upcoming M Digital. Both are ~1.3x (actually the M Digital is 1.39x crop,

Re: Pixel size

2006-03-20 Thread Godfrey DiGiorgi
On Mar 20, 2006, at 2:24 AM, Alexandru-Cristian Sarbu wrote: Are the Pentax D lenses that precise in their image circle coverage? In passing (somewhere) I've read of a claimed 1.3 crop factor. You seem certain. Do you remember where you read it? We know they're not that precise - but I

Re: Pixel size

2006-03-18 Thread Alexandru-Cristian Sarbu
On 3/17/06, Jack Davis [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: I read that the Pentax 10MP will have a 1.3 conversion factor sensor containing 9 micron pixels. Isn't the 9 micron larger than even the 5D? Won't both color depth and exposure range benefit? Jack No, the 10MP Pentax will have an APS-C sensor

Re: Pixel size

2006-03-18 Thread Jack Davis
Are the Pentax D lenses that precise in their image circle coverage? In passing (somewhere) I've read of a claimed 1.3 crop factor. You seem certain. Do you remember where you read it? Jack --- Alexandru-Cristian Sarbu [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: On 3/17/06, Jack Davis [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: I

RE: Pixel size

2006-03-17 Thread Shel Belinkoff
Where did you read this. Inquiring minds want to know. Shel [Original Message] From: Jack Davis I read that the Pentax 10MP will have a 1.3 conversion factor sensor containing 9 micron pixels.

Re: Pixel size

2006-03-17 Thread Adam Maas
Yes to dynamic range. colour depth depends on the sensor design. But if it's 1.3x and 10MP, there's a good chance its the same sensor as the Digital Module-R, which is a 16bit sensor, not 12bit like the 6MP bodies. -Adam Jack Davis wrote: I read that the Pentax 10MP will have a 1.3

RE: Pixel size

2006-03-17 Thread Jack Davis
As I understand it, won't the larger pixel size, also, tend to generate less noise? Jack __ Do You Yahoo!? Tired of spam? Yahoo! Mail has the best spam protection around http://mail.yahoo.com

Re: Pixel size

2006-03-17 Thread Shel Belinkoff
O ... that would be ~very~ nice. I suspect it's pure speculation and that we won't see such a thing. Shel [Original Message] From: Adam Maas Yes to dynamic range. colour depth depends on the sensor design. But if it's 1.3x and 10MP, there's a good chance its the same sensor as the

Re: Pixel size

2006-03-17 Thread Patrice LACOUTURE
2006/3/17, Jack Davis [EMAIL PROTECTED]: I read that the Pentax 10MP will have a 1.3 conversion factor sensor containing 9 micron pixels. Isn't the 9 micron larger than even the 5D? Won't both color depth and exposure range benefit? Jack Strange: 10 Mpix with a 2 by 3 ratio makes 2582 x

Re: Pixel size

2006-03-17 Thread Patrice LACOUTURE
2006/3/17, Jack Davis [EMAIL PROTECTED]: I read that the Pentax 10MP will have a 1.3 conversion factor sensor containing 9 micron pixels. Isn't the 9 micron larger than even the 5D? Won't both color depth and exposure range benefit? Jack I guess you mixed the 645D (9micron, 18MPix, my

Re: Pixel size

2006-03-17 Thread Patrice LACOUTURE
(sorry if I fill the thread with 1 sentence messages :-) ) Whichever, your point makes perfect sense... If the quality of the analog and digital electronics behind this sensor is up to it, I guess these factors will be improved accordingly. I wonder whether increasing the total dimension of the

Re: Pixel size

2006-03-17 Thread Jack Davis
Patrice, Must say your math looks right. (actually 6.97 microns). It's likely I buried Kodak's 9 micron reference to the 645D only to have it surface when mulling the new 10D. Yes, Canon stipulated that the 5D utilizes 8.2 micron pixels. Jack --- Patrice LACOUTURE [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:

Re: Pixel size

2006-03-17 Thread John Francis
I'm with you, Shel. I'd love it to be true, but I'm extremely sceptical. On Fri, Mar 17, 2006 at 08:07:36AM -0800, Shel Belinkoff wrote: O ... that would be ~very~ nice. I suspect it's pure speculation and that we won't see such a thing. Shel [Original Message] From: Adam

RE: Pixel size

2006-03-17 Thread Jack Davis
Shel, Damned if I know! I suppose it was a fragment of the 645D specs Kodak furnished, but miss-filed in my 'cache'. Can't find it and the math actually looks as though it may be limited to 7 microns. IOW, I agree with Patrice. Jack --- Shel Belinkoff [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Where did you

Re: Pixel size and density (was RE: SMC 1.4/50mm FA

2004-01-26 Thread Rob Studdert
On 25 Jan 2004 at 22:58, Butch Black wrote: This begs another question. What then would be the ideal pixel size and density to get the least noise, widest exposure latitude, with enough resolution to keep up with the best (or at least the very good) lenses? Would this number change as the

Re: Pixel size and density (was RE: SMC 1.4/50mm FA

2004-01-26 Thread Rob Studdert
On 26 Jan 2004 at 23:37, Rob Studdert wrote: http://gsfctechnology.gsfc.nasa.gov/laisdocs/spie_paper.pdf Sorry wrong link: http://www.mwoa.org/SPIE_paper.pdf Rob Studdert HURSTVILLE AUSTRALIA Tel +61-2-9554-4110 UTC(GMT) +10 Hours [EMAIL PROTECTED]