Re: Show-off in photography with a potentially wrong message (50 weddings with iPhone in 1 day)

2013-02-12 Thread Aahz Maruch
On Tue, Feb 12, 2013, steve harley wrote: > > as you note, if he feels larger cameras have an undesirable social > impact, there are plenty of options; i don't think a smartphone is > the best alternative ? the situation in the Philippines has little > relation to the ubiquity of smartphones, which

Re: Show-off in photography with a potentially wrong message (50 weddings with iPhone in 1 day)

2013-02-12 Thread Igor Roshchin
Bob, Yes, I enjoyed watching that video, even though I am not sure I agree with all the points "criticized" there. Even before Instagram people were taking photos of their feet, weird signs, self-portraits in the mirror, and what's not... Experimenting and playing is fine, and that platform is g

Re: Show-off in photography with a potentially wrong message (50 weddings with iPhone in 1 day)

2013-02-12 Thread steve harley
on 2013-02-12 10:53 Igor Roshchin wrote First, this guy is going to shoot 50 weddings in 1 day, whatever that means... But it cannot really mean a complete wedding coverage, does it? Maybe just the 5-10-minute civil ceremony... or, conversely, just a few shots of the couple and the family (analog

Re: Show-off in photography with a potentially wrong message (50 weddings with iPhone in 1 day)

2013-02-12 Thread Bob Sullivan
Igor, Have you seen the Instagram video on U-tube? They are all f-ing Michael Angelos creating a new visual literacy in the great unwashed peoples of earth.. Iphones for everyone! Clean cups too! Regards, Bob S. On Tue, Feb 12, 2013 at 11:53 AM, Igor Roshchin wrote: > > I think I saw this infor

Re: Show, or hide?

2011-02-21 Thread Cotty
On 20/2/11, Larry Colen, discombobulated, unleashed: >When you compose shots, do you think that your style is more about >showing things, or hiding things? Showing things - always. -- Cheers, Cotty ___/\__ || (O) | People, Places, Pastiche -- http://www.cottysnaps.com _

Re: Show, or hide?

2011-02-21 Thread Jack Davis
Yeah, that's right. I knew I'd read that somewhere. Jack --- On Mon, 2/21/11, Ken Waller wrote: > From: Ken Waller > Subject: Re: Show, or hide? > To: "Pentax-Discuss Mail List" > Date: Monday, February 21, 2011, 10:19 AM > I didn't initially say this

Re: Show, or hide?

2011-02-21 Thread John Sessoms
I wish I could express it that clearly. I agree with Godfrey. From: Godfrey DiGiorgi This question reminds me of something someone famous said: "I spend so much time looking at what I don't want in my photos to the degree that I have to remind myself to look at what I do want." It's not a matt

Re: Show, or hide?

2011-02-21 Thread Ken Waller
m: "Jack Davis" Subject: Re: Show, or hide? Ken do you, also, apply this philosophy to your photography? Helpful hint: In order to do this, I've found it necessary to limit my martini's. Jack --- On Mon, 2/21/11, Ken Waller wrote: From: Ken Waller Subject: Re: Show, or h

Re: Show, or hide?

2011-02-21 Thread Jack Davis
Ken do you, also, apply this philosophy to your photography? Helpful hint: In order to do this, I've found it necessary to limit my martini's. Jack --- On Mon, 2/21/11, Ken Waller wrote: > From: Ken Waller > Subject: Re: Show, or hide? > To: "Pentax-Discuss Ma

Re: Show, or hide?

2011-02-21 Thread Ken Waller
Mostly I try to show what I want to show and not show what I don't want to show. Mark ! Kenneth Waller http://www.pentaxphotogallery.com/kennethwaller - Original Message - From: "William Robb" Subject: Re: Show, or hide? On 20/02/2011 7:44 PM, Larry Colen w

Re: Show, or hide?

2011-02-21 Thread Godfrey DiGiorgi
This question reminds me of something someone famous said: "I spend so much time looking at what I don't want in my photos to the degree that I have to remind myself to look at what I do want." It's not a matter of "showing" or "hiding". It's a matter of understanding what is in a particular scene

Re: Show, or hide?

2011-02-21 Thread Boris Liberman
Mark said "Yes". I'd say "both" :-). On 2/21/2011 3:44 AM, Larry Colen wrote: I've been thinking about how I compose shots, and I've realized that I often go to more effort to hide things that I think will detract from the shot, than I do trying to make everything that I might want is visible.

Re: Show, or hide?

2011-02-21 Thread Mark Roberts
Larry Colen wrote: >When you compose shots, do you think that your style is more about showing >things, or hiding things? Yes. -- Mark Roberts - Photography & Multimedia www.robertstech.com -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to

Re: Show, or hide?

2011-02-20 Thread Larry Colen
On Feb 20, 2011, at 9:51 PM, William Robb wrote: > On 20/02/2011 7:44 PM, Larry Colen wrote: >> I've been thinking about how I compose shots, and I've realized that I often >> go to more effort to hide things that I think will detract from the shot, >> than I do trying to make everything that I

Re: Show, or hide?

2011-02-20 Thread William Robb
On 20/02/2011 7:44 PM, Larry Colen wrote: I've been thinking about how I compose shots, and I've realized that I often go to more effort to hide things that I think will detract from the shot, than I do trying to make everything that I might want is visible. I'd often rather do two "detail" p

Re: Show, or hide?

2011-02-20 Thread Ken Waller
Definitely about hiding things as I want to isolate & define the chosen subject. Kenneth Waller http://www.pentaxphotogallery.com/kennethwaller+ - Original Message - From: "Larry Colen" Subject: Show, or hide? I've been thinking about how I compose shots, and I've realized that I

Re: Show, or hide?

2011-02-20 Thread John Francis
As I remarked the last time this topic came up, it rather depends on whether you look "at" the viewfinder, or "through" it. I tend to look through the viewfinder, so I often don't see things in the image that would be distracting in the eventual presentation (the classic "tree growing out of some

Re: Show, or hide?

2011-02-20 Thread Paul Stenquist
I don't really think about it a lot. I just try to find a picture that works for me on a personal level. However, if there is something in frame that isn't working for me, I'll try to find an angle that excludes it. If eliminating it ruins the composition, I ask myself if I'll be able to clone i

Re: Show, or hide?

2011-02-20 Thread Steven Desjardins
I lean the other way. I get very "focussed" on my subject and have to be careful about backgrounds. On Sun, Feb 20, 2011 at 8:44 PM, Larry Colen wrote: > I've been thinking about how I compose shots, and I've realized that I often > go to more effort to hide things that I think will detract fro

Re: SHOW

2010-05-07 Thread Daniel J. Matyola
LOL. Tru Dat. On Fri, May 7, 2010 at 3:21 PM, Bob W wrote: > Much hairier though. > > >> >> Mine is cuter, and not as fat! >> >> http://photo.net/photodb/photo?photo_id=7248613 >> >> Dan >> >> On Fri, May 7, 2010 at 10:56 AM, John Sessoms >> wrote: >> > From: P N Stenquist >> >> >> >> On May 6,

RE: SHOW

2010-05-07 Thread Bob W
Much hairier though. > > Mine is cuter, and not as fat! > > http://photo.net/photodb/photo?photo_id=7248613 > > Dan > > On Fri, May 7, 2010 at 10:56 AM, John Sessoms > wrote: > > From: P N Stenquist > >> > >> On May 6, 2010, at 11:31 AM, Cotty wrote: > >> > >>> > Show us yer bum  :-) > > >

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2010-05-07 Thread DagT
,_!_, Den 6. mai 2010 kl. 17.31 skrev Cotty: > Show us yer bum :-) > > -- > > > Cheers, > Cotty > > > ___/\__ > || (O) | People, Places, Pastiche > -- http://www.cottysnaps.com > _ > > > > -- > PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List > PDML@pdml.ne

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2010-05-07 Thread Daniel J. Matyola
Mine is cuter, and not as fat! http://photo.net/photodb/photo?photo_id=7248613 Dan On Fri, May 7, 2010 at 10:56 AM, John Sessoms wrote: > From: P N Stenquist >> >> On May 6, 2010, at 11:31 AM, Cotty wrote: >> >>> > Show us yer bum  :-) > >> >> I have a nice looking ass, and I enjoy showing it o

Re: SHOW

2010-05-07 Thread John Sessoms
From: P N Stenquist On May 6, 2010, at 11:31 AM, Cotty wrote: > Show us yer bum :-) > I have a nice looking ass, and I enjoy showing it off: http://photo.net/photodb/photo?photo_id=10982480 > -- Are You A Turtle? -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listi

Re: SHOW

2010-05-06 Thread Jack Davis
LoL..out loud! J --- On Thu, 5/6/10, Tom C wrote: > From: Tom C > Subject: Re: SHOW > To: "Pentax-Discuss Mail List" > Date: Thursday, May 6, 2010, 12:30 PM > Thanks Jackass. ;-) > > On Thu, May 6, 2010 at 3:18 PM, Jack Davis > wrote: > > I remembe

Re: SHOW

2010-05-06 Thread Doug Brewer
Godfrey DiGiorgi wrote: The best bums are Irish ... http://farm5.static.flickr.com/4030/4584828924_78cea05394_o.jpg come on, Eileen, too rye ayyy... -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link

Re: SHOW

2010-05-06 Thread Tom C
Thanks Jackass. ;-) On Thu, May 6, 2010 at 3:18 PM, Jack Davis wrote: > I remember when you originally "mooned" this shot. Perched at an odd angle, > butt still, really nice! > > Jack > > --- On Thu, 5/6/10, Tom C wrote: > >> From: Tom C >> Subject

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2010-05-06 Thread Tom C
LOL. On Thu, May 6, 2010 at 3:14 PM, Bob W wrote: > I'd like his field and his maidservant too. And his iPod - I didn't see that > mentioned in Exodus. > >> >> neither shalt thou covet thy neighbour's house, his field, or >> his manservant, or his maidservant, his ox, or his ass, or >> any thing

Re: SHOW

2010-05-06 Thread Jack Davis
I remember when you originally "mooned" this shot. Perched at an odd angle, butt still, really nice! Jack --- On Thu, 5/6/10, Tom C wrote: > From: Tom C > Subject: Re: SHOW > To: "Pentax-Discuss Mail List" > Date: Thursday, May 6, 2010, 10:15 AM >

RE: SHOW

2010-05-06 Thread Bob W
I'd like his field and his maidservant too. And his iPod - I didn't see that mentioned in Exodus. > > neither shalt thou covet thy neighbour's house, his field, or > his manservant, or his maidservant, his ox, or his ass, or > any thing that is thy neighbour's. > > Funny Bob! > > On Thu, May

Re: SHOW

2010-05-06 Thread Tom C
neither shalt thou covet thy neighbour's house, his field, or his manservant, or his maidservant, his ox, or his ass, or any thing that is thy neighbour's. Funny Bob! On Thu, May 6, 2010 at 2:20 PM, Bob W wrote: > I covet Tom's ass. > > -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdm

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2010-05-06 Thread Godfrey DiGiorgi
The best bums are Irish ... http://farm5.static.flickr.com/4030/4584828924_78cea05394_o.jpg -- Godfrey  godfreydigiorgi.posterous.com -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above a

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2010-05-06 Thread Bob W
I covet Tom's ass. > > My ass is bigger, but I found it on google images. Tom's ass > is actually his own. > Paul > > On May 6, 2010, at 1:20 PM, Christian Skofteland wrote: > > > On Thu, May 06, 2010 at 01:15:47PM -0400, Tom C wrote: > >> OK everybody, who has a bigger ass? > >> > >> Paul's

Re: SHOW

2010-05-06 Thread mark
paul stenquist wrote: >On May 6, 2010, at 1:04 PM, Doug Brewer wrote: > >> P N Stenquist wrote: >>> On May 6, 2010, at 11:31 AM, Cotty wrote: Show us yer bum :-) >>> I have a nice looking ass, and I enjoy showing it off: >>> http://photo.net/photodb/photo?photo_id=10982480 >> >> how t

Re: SHOW

2010-05-06 Thread paul stenquist
My ass is bigger, but I found it on google images. Tom's ass is actually his own. Paul On May 6, 2010, at 1:20 PM, Christian Skofteland wrote: > On Thu, May 06, 2010 at 01:15:47PM -0400, Tom C wrote: >> OK everybody, who has a bigger ass? >> >> Paul's ass: >> >> http://photo.net/photodb/photo?

Re: SHOW

2010-05-06 Thread paul stenquist
On May 6, 2010, at 1:04 PM, Doug Brewer wrote: > P N Stenquist wrote: >> On May 6, 2010, at 11:31 AM, Cotty wrote: >>> Show us yer bum :-) >>> >> I have a nice looking ass, and I enjoy showing it off: >> http://photo.net/photodb/photo?photo_id=10982480 > > how to keep people from clicking on a

Re: SHOW

2010-05-06 Thread Tom C
I left myself a pretty big target on that one. :-) Tom C. On Thu, May 6, 2010 at 1:20 PM, Christian Skofteland wrote: > On Thu, May 06, 2010 at 01:15:47PM -0400, Tom C wrote: >> OK everybody, who has a bigger ass? >> >> Paul's ass: >> >> http://photo.net/photodb/photo?photo_id=10982480 >> >> Tom

Re: SHOW

2010-05-06 Thread Tom C
ROTFLMAO! On Thu, May 6, 2010 at 1:04 PM, Doug Brewer wrote: > P N Stenquist wrote: >> >> On May 6, 2010, at 11:31 AM, Cotty wrote: >> >>> Show us yer bum :-) >>> >> I have a nice looking ass, and I enjoy showing it off: >> http://photo.net/photodb/photo?photo_id=10982480 > > how to keep people f

Re: SHOW

2010-05-06 Thread Christian Skofteland
On Thu, May 06, 2010 at 01:15:47PM -0400, Tom C wrote: > OK everybody, who has a bigger ass? > > Paul's ass: > > http://photo.net/photodb/photo?photo_id=10982480 > > Tom's ass: > > http://photo.net/photodb/photo?photo_id=4147790 > > Tom C. Tom IS the bigger ass, not sure who HAS the biggest a

Re: SHOW

2010-05-06 Thread Tom C
OK everybody, who has a bigger ass? Paul's ass: http://photo.net/photodb/photo?photo_id=10982480 Tom's ass: http://photo.net/photodb/photo?photo_id=4147790 Tom C. -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, pleas

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2010-05-06 Thread Doug Brewer
P N Stenquist wrote: On May 6, 2010, at 11:31 AM, Cotty wrote: Show us yer bum :-) I have a nice looking ass, and I enjoy showing it off: http://photo.net/photodb/photo?photo_id=10982480 how to keep people from clicking on a link, example 1. -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net

Re: SHOW

2010-05-06 Thread Jack Davis
Shucks..what a let down. [=( anonymous (snicker) --- On Thu, 5/6/10, P N Stenquist wrote: > From: P N Stenquist > Subject: Re: SHOW > To: "Pentax-Discuss Mail List" > Date: Thursday, May 6, 2010, 9:51 AM > > On May 6, 2010, at 11:31 AM, Cotty wrote: > > &

Re: SHOW

2010-05-06 Thread P N Stenquist
On May 6, 2010, at 11:31 AM, Cotty wrote: Show us yer bum :-) I have a nice looking ass, and I enjoy showing it off: http://photo.net/photodb/photo?photo_id=10982480 -- Cheers, Cotty ___/\__ || (O) | People, Places, Pastiche -- http://www.cottysnaps.com _

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2010-05-06 Thread Tom C
Jack, you bum! On Thu, May 6, 2010 at 12:07 PM, Jack Davis wrote: > OKAY!! > > Tom > > --- On Thu, 5/6/10, Cotty wrote: > >> From: Cotty >> Subject: SHOW >> To: "pentax list" >> Date: Thursday, May 6, 2010, 8:31 AM >> Show us yer bum :-) >> >> -- >> >> >> Cheers, >>   Cotty >> >> >> ___/\__ >>

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2010-05-06 Thread mike wilson
Cotty wrote: Show us yer bum :-) BUY MY PICTURE! -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions.

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2010-05-06 Thread Cotty
On 6/5/10, Jack Davis, discombobulated, unleashed: >OKAY!! Oh crickey maybe I shouldn'ta said that. -- Cheers, Cotty ___/\__ || (O) | People, Places, Pastiche -- http://www.cottysnaps.com _ -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net h

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2010-05-06 Thread Jack Davis
OKAY!! Tom --- On Thu, 5/6/10, Cotty wrote: > From: Cotty > Subject: SHOW > To: "pentax list" > Date: Thursday, May 6, 2010, 8:31 AM > Show us yer bum :-) > > -- > > > Cheers, >   Cotty > > > ___/\__ > ||   (O)  |  >    People, Places, Pastiche > --      http://www.cottysnaps.com

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2010-05-06 Thread Tom C
Oh Geez... ! Tom C. On Thu, May 6, 2010 at 11:31 AM, Cotty wrote: > Show us yer bum :-) > > -- > > > Cheers, >  Cotty > > > ___/\__ > ||   (O)  |     People, Places, Pastiche > --      http://www.cottysnaps.com > _ > > > > -- > PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List >

Re: Show

2007-03-23 Thread Boris Liberman
Congratulations! Any chance of you sharing with us some kind of link? I mean those who are too far away to come look at them personally ;-). Boris frank theriault wrote: > Haven't been too active of late, but I got some exciting news > yesterday that I should share with friends (you guys ~are

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2007-03-21 Thread Tim Øsleby
If your definition of friends is something in the line of people who put up with you. Then yes. Congrats. A bit short notice for me to show up, but it sure would have been fun. Tim Typo Mostly harmless (just plain Norwegian) -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL P

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2007-03-19 Thread Scott Loveless
Woohoo! On 3/19/07, frank theriault <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > Haven't been too active of late, but I got some exciting news > yesterday that I should share with friends (you guys ~are~ friends, > right?). > > My first show in over a year and a half is opening April 1, at La > Carrera bike sh

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2007-03-19 Thread Kenneth Waller
Great news Knarf! Of course you'll post your show entries. Kenneth Waller - Original Message - From: "frank theriault" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> Subject: Show > Haven't been too active of late, but I got some exciting news > yesterday that I should share with friends (you guys ~are~ friends

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2007-03-19 Thread Godfrey DiGiorgi
Congratulations, Frank. Now you have two weeks to get everything you want to show ready... ! ;-) no pressure. Godfrey On Mar 19, 2007, at 1:52 PM, frank theriault wrote: > Haven't been too active of late, but I got some exciting news > yesterday that I should share with friends (you guys ~are

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2007-03-19 Thread ann sanfedele
frank theriault wrote: >Haven't been too active of late, but I got some exciting news >yesterday that I should share with friends (you guys ~are~ friends, >right?). > >My first show in over a year and a half is opening April 1, at La >Carrera bike shop here in Toronto. > >I still don't know wha

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2007-03-19 Thread David J Brooks
Good to hear Frank I dont have a calader handy, but iof its a Sat/Sunday, i should be able to run down Dave On 3/19/07, frank theriault <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > Haven't been too active of late, but I got some exciting news > yesterday that I should share with friends (you guys ~are~ friends,

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2007-03-19 Thread Bruce Dayton
Congratulations are in order! And yes, we are your friends. -- Bruce Monday, March 19, 2007, 1:52:12 PM, you wrote: ft> Haven't been too active of late, but I got some exciting news ft> yesterday that I should share with friends (you guys ~are~ friends, ft> right?). ft> My first show in o

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2007-03-19 Thread Mark Roberts
frank theriault wrote: >My first show in over a year and a half is opening April 1, at La >Carrera bike shop here in Toronto. Good job, Frank! I'll try to make it up there for a visit when the show's up. -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml

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2007-03-19 Thread Paul Stenquist
Congratulations Frank. Good to see you back on the list. Paul On Mar 19, 2007, at 4:52 PM, frank theriault wrote: > Haven't been too active of late, but I got some exciting news > yesterday that I should share with friends (you guys ~are~ friends, > right?). > > My first show in over a year and

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2007-03-19 Thread P. J. Alling
Congratulations Frank. frank theriault wrote: > Haven't been too active of late, but I got some exciting news > yesterday that I should share with friends (you guys ~are~ friends, > right?). > > My first show in over a year and a half is opening April 1, at La > Carrera bike shop here in Toront

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2007-03-19 Thread P. J. Alling
Wait a minute, does he have beer? Bruce Dayton wrote: > Congratulations are in order! And yes, we are your friends. > > -- Entropy Seminar: The results of a five yeer studee ntu the sekend lw uf thurmodynamiks aand itz inevibl fxt hon shewb rt nslpn raq liot. -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail

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2007-03-19 Thread Adam Maas
frank theriault wrote: > Haven't been too active of late, but I got some exciting news > yesterday that I should share with friends (you guys ~are~ friends, > right?). > > My first show in over a year and a half is opening April 1, at La > Carrera bike shop here in Toronto. > > I still don't k

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2007-03-19 Thread Eactivist
In a message dated 3/19/2007 2:14:16 P.M. Pacific Daylight Time, [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: Haven't been too active of late, but I got some exciting news yesterday that I should share with friends (you guys ~are~ friends, right?). My first show in over a year and a half is opening April 1,

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2007-03-19 Thread Cotty
On 19/3/07, frank theriault, discombobulated, unleashed: > >No big whoop, but I'm looking forward to it! Go Frank. Good luck mate. Looking forward to seeing you in June. -- Cheers, Cotty ___/\__ || (O) | People, Places, Pastiche ||=|http://www.cottysnaps.com __

Re: Re: Show in Japan

2006-10-18 Thread John Coyle
worn? IMO, it would hardly seem to be an issue if you're going to a printed output anyway. John Coyle Brisbane, Australia - Original Message - From: "Ken Takeshita" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> To: "Pentax-Discuss Mail List" Sent: Wednesday, October 18, 2006 9:44 AM S

Re: Show in Japan

2006-10-18 Thread Paul Stenquist
I doubt that Pentax has regressed. BTW, I think Doug was being facetious. It's probably not time to get nostalgic about the *istD. On Oct 17, 2006, at 9:42 PM, Digital Image Studio wrote: > On 18/10/06, Doug Brewer <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > >> Well, that's it. The camera is useless. > > Tha

Re: Moiré (was: Re: Show in Japan)

2006-10-18 Thread Dario Bonazza
Current on both the Digital Modul R and the M8. Dario - Original Message - From: "Digital Image Studio" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> To: "Pentax-Discuss Mail List" Sent: Wednesday, October 18, 2006 11:22 AM Subject: Re: Moiré (was: Re: Show in Japan) > On 18

Re: Moiré (was: Re: Show in Japan)

2006-10-18 Thread Digital Image Studio
On 18/10/06, Dario Bonazza <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > Rob, > > So, what do you think of Leica's missing anti-alias filter, replaced by > anti-moire processing? I don't. Is is current or proposed? -- Rob Studdert HURSTVILLE AUSTRALIA Tel +61-2-9554-4110 UTC(GMT) +10 Hours [EMAIL PROTECTED] htt

RE: Show in Japan

2006-10-18 Thread Jan van Wijk
Hi Joe, On Tue, 17 Oct 2006 17:31:02 -0700, Joseph Tainter wrote: >http://www.digital.pentax.co.jp/ja/35mm/k10d/image/ex_02.jpg > >This is the sample 2 shown in the K10D site > >- > >When I look at this image at a scale that fills the browser window, or >fills the screen in PS, I see moire a

Moiré (was: Re: Show in Japan)

2006-10-17 Thread Dario Bonazza
Rob, So, what do you think of Leica's missing anti-alias filter, replaced by anti-moire processing? Dario - Original Message - From: "Digital Image Studio" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> To: "Pentax-Discuss Mail List" Sent: Wednesday, October 18, 2006 2:03 AM

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2006-10-17 Thread Doug Franklin
Digital Image Studio wrote: > [Moire a/k/a aliasing discussion] > > http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Anti-aliasing_filter Been there, done that. They help, but you always end up with /some/ pathological case. Now, if you can engineer the pathological cases to be outside the problem domain, you're s

Re: Show in Japan

2006-10-17 Thread Digital Image Studio
On 18/10/06, Doug Brewer <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > Well, that's it. The camera is useless. That was one great thing about the *ist D, the AA filter seemed very well matched to the sensor which meant that images sharpened well and rarely suffered aliasing problems, though it didn't measure up a

Re: Show in Japan

2006-10-17 Thread Digital Image Studio
On 18/10/06, Doug Franklin <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > I see it, for sure. But in this case, anyway, it's only going to show > up to "pixel peeping". I bet if it shows up on a print, it'll be > unnoticeable. Some of the printing firms that I used to service were big into printing high quality

Re: Show in Japan

2006-10-17 Thread K.Takeshita
On 10/17/06 8:49 PM, "Doug Franklin", <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > I see it, for sure. But in this case, anyway, it's only going to show > up to "pixel peeping". I bet if it shows up on a print, it'll be > unnoticeable. As you said, they (folks in Japan) were saying that this was a result of se

Re: Show in Japan

2006-10-17 Thread Doug Brewer
On Oct 17, 2006, at 7:44 PM, Ken Takeshita wrote: > > Actually, I just accidentally found the thread in Japan wherein folks > are talking about the moire, taking an examplke of Pnteax's recent > sample. > > http://www.digital.pentax.co.jp/ja/35mm/k10d/image/ex_02.jpg > > This is the sample 2 shown

Re: Show in Japan

2006-10-17 Thread Digital Image Studio
On 18/10/06, Doug Franklin <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > It's near impossible to prevent, too, if you're using a sensor with the > pixels in a regular arrangement. The only reason film usually avoids > gross moire patterns is that its "pixel array" is semi-random. If your > sensor array is a regu

Re: Show in Japan

2006-10-17 Thread William Robb
- Original Message - From: "Joseph Tainter" > http://www.digital.pentax.co.jp/ja/35mm/k10d/image/ex_02.jpg > > This is the sample 2 shown in the K10D site > > - > > When I look at this image at a scale that fills the browser window, or > fills the screen in PS, I see moire all over

Re: Show in Japan

2006-10-17 Thread Paul Stenquist
Yes. If it only appears at one enlargement it's a result of monitor scan lines and pixels lining up in an unfortunate way. Paul On Oct 17, 2006, at 8:31 PM, Joseph Tainter wrote: > http://www.digital.pentax.co.jp/ja/35mm/k10d/image/ex_02.jpg > > This is the sample 2 shown in the K10D site > > --

Re: Show in Japan

2006-10-17 Thread Doug Franklin
Joseph Tainter wrote: > So I assume it is just an effect of the monitor. > > Yes? No? The regular "grid" of the pixels on a monitor can also exhibit moire in its interactions with the "grid" in the digital image. Basically, you can get moire at almost any interaction like image-sensor, image-di

Re: Show in Japan

2006-10-17 Thread Doug Franklin
Ken Takeshita wrote: > http://www.digital.pentax.co.jp/ja/35mm/k10d/image/ex_02.jpg > > This is the sample 2 shown in the K10D site. > If you look really close at the area of her right shoulder between her > arm and hair, you might be able to see some colour moire. It is hard > to see but it's t

Re: Show in Japan

2006-10-17 Thread Doug Franklin
Digital Image Studio wrote: > The problem is near impossible > to remedy in post processing as it's an optical effect therefore can't > be readily distinguished from wanted information. It's near impossible to prevent, too, if you're using a sensor with the pixels in a regular arrangement. The o

Re: Show in Japan

2006-10-17 Thread Doug Franklin
Adam Maas wrote: > Moire is the odd patterns you sometimes see in fine (high frequency) > detail in digital shots or scans. Or when you look through two screens at the same time, and they're at slight angles to each other. -- Thanks, DougF (KG4LMZ) -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.n

RE: Show in Japan

2006-10-17 Thread Joseph Tainter
http://www.digital.pentax.co.jp/ja/35mm/k10d/image/ex_02.jpg This is the sample 2 shown in the K10D site - When I look at this image at a scale that fills the browser window, or fills the screen in PS, I see moire all over the area of the blouse outside of the "bib" (whatever it's called).

Re: Re: Show in Japan

2006-10-17 Thread Digital Image Studio
On 18/10/06, [EMAIL PROTECTED] <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > Aha...yes I see some colour lines there, but you really have to be looking > right up > close to spot it. I can't see that bothering me. It may be quite annoying to me, I shoot do shoot fabrics under controlled lighting,. It's an indica

Re: Re: Show in Japan

2006-10-17 Thread jkmess
Aha...yes I see some colour lines there, but you really have to be looking right up close to spot it. I can't see that bothering me. James Quoting Ken Takeshita <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>: > On 10/17/06, Adam Maas <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > Moire is the odd patterns you sometimes see in fine (hi

Re: Re: Show in Japan

2006-10-17 Thread Ken Takeshita
On 10/17/06, Adam Maas <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > Moire is the odd patterns you sometimes see in fine (high frequency) > detail in digital shots or scans. > > -Adam Actually, I just accidentally found the thread in Japan wherein folks are talking about the moire, taking an examplke of Pnteax's r

Re: Show in Japan

2006-10-17 Thread Adam Maas
Moire is the odd patterns you sometimes see in fine (high frequency) detail in digital shots or scans. -Adam [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: > Hell, I don't even know what moire is! > > Quoting Joseph Tainter <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>: > >> From one of Ken's reports: >> >> "Pentax explanation on the floo

Re: Show in Japan

2006-10-17 Thread jkmess
Hell, I don't even know what moire is! Quoting Joseph Tainter <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>: > From one of Ken's reports: > > "Pentax explanation on the floor said they were not forcing the > removal > of the nosie, colour noise or colour moire. Instead, they are going > by the extremely finer gradation

Re: Show in Japan

2006-10-17 Thread Joseph Tainter
What Pentax were saying, as I interpreted, was the images (jpeg?) were so good right out of the camera without any setting of noise removal and others (such as natural/bright or whatever else the camera has). We'll see how people report this weekend from Tokyo. Ken - Thanks, Ken. I hope p

Re: Show in Japan

2006-10-17 Thread K.Takeshita
On 10/17/06 5:19 PM, "Joseph Tainter", <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > I have been thinking this over the past couple of days. Moire? I haven't > seen moire raised previously as an issue in the K10D. Pentax seems to be > saying: "Noise? Moire? Remove them yourselves." For the noise, that is > probabl

Re: Show in Japan

2006-10-17 Thread Tom Lesser
On Oct 17, 2006, at 5:19 PM, Joseph Tainter wrote: > From one of Ken's reports: > > But how does one remove moire? I think there is a tutorial, maybe even a script to remove moire patterns on Russell Brown's site. A Google search should bring up more references. > And why should it be an is

Re: Show in Japan

2006-10-17 Thread Joseph Tainter
From one of Ken's reports: "Pentax explanation on the floor said they were not forcing the removal of the nosie, colour noise or colour moire. Instead, they are going by the extremely finer gradation to render very natural images. They further said that if anyone would be bothered by the colour

Re: Show in Japan

2006-10-16 Thread Lawrence Kwan
On Mon, 16 Oct 2006, Joseph Tainter wrote: > And the high ISO images showed in Japan yesterday were taken with > firmware version 0.20. Pentax is getting a lot of mileage out of that > version. But don't forget the different hardware version prototypes. I read somewhere that Pentax were testing

Re: Show in Japan

2006-10-16 Thread Doug Franklin
Joseph Tainter wrote: > Paul, I believe they are full-size jpegs. At least they felt that way > when I downloaded them on my dial-up connection. > > And the high ISO images showed in Japan yesterday were taken with > firmware version 0.20. Pentax is getting a lot of mileage out of that > versi

Re: Show in Japan

2006-10-16 Thread Sylwester Pietrzyk
On 16.10.06, at 21:03 , Joseph Tainter wrote: > Are these stipulations in the delivery contracts new? Here in the > U.S., > we have been accustomed to getting new Pentax equipment nearly last in > the world. I would gladly wait one or two months longer for a new equipment just to get US prices

Re: Show in Japan

2006-10-16 Thread P. J. Alling
No, trade with Vietnam has been normalized for some time, at least 15 years. Joseph Tainter wrote: >Are Pentax lenses still assembled in Vietnam? I am pretty sure they are >(I am getting a bit out of touch on these things :-). Because of some >sort of trade embargo from Vietnam to the U.S. (a

Re: Show in Japan

2006-10-16 Thread Mark Roberts
Joseph Tainter wrote: >Downloading the full-size originals, then looking at them at Actual >Pixels... -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net

Re: Show in Japan

2006-10-16 Thread Thibouille
If you wanna judje with a GX10 v020 then use my picture, at leastn it is available in RAW. That JPEGs is awfully compressed :( 2006/10/16, Joseph Tainter <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>: > "Firmware was said to be 0.2Folks did not see any appreciable noise > in the sample prints. Considering these were b

Re: Show in Japan

2006-10-16 Thread K.Takeshita
On 10/16/06 3:52 PM, "Christian", <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > "ISO 1600 images can be found here, presumably taken with Firmware 0.20:" Now I understood what my confusion was. All along, I was talking about two samples shown in the Show in Japan in ISO 1000 and 1600 respectively, taken by a pro

Re: Show in Japan

2006-10-16 Thread K.Takeshita
On 10/16/06 3:44 PM, "Joseph Tainter", <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > But > there is no problem with direct economic ties between Vietnam and the U.S. > > A couple of years ago someone reported here that all production from the > Hanoi plant goes to Manila, from where it is shipped to fill orders.

Re: Show in Japan

2006-10-16 Thread Christian
[EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: > The web images you're looking at are too low-res to provide any real > information in regard to noise levels. I'm surprised that you're wringing your hands over low-res web images produced with 0.2 firmware. "ISO 1600 images can be found here, presumably taken with Fi

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