From: "Shel Belinkoff" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
I called Adorama this morning to be sure that the order I placed has been
cancelled and that my credit card was not charged. I spoke with a fellow
named Tobias. He said that the camera is not on backorder, and that he
shows two in stock. His suggestion
As a wise man once said, "That's the way it crumbles, cookie-wise."
-Aaron
-Original Message-
From: "Shel Belinkoff" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Subj: Re: Miffed at Adorama (Gotta vent!)
Date: Mon Feb 27, 2006 11:58 am
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Shel continued:
I'm not looking for guarantees, but I do have an expectation of a certain
level of service. That probably stems from my background. Pretty much my
whole family was in a service business at one time or another. Plus, I
grew up in the era of trust and respect.
Sure, many here ar
You should go back there and give them some shit.
Having done that, you'd be flush with success!
Kenneth Waller
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From: "Paul Stenquist" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Subject: Re: Miffed at Adorama (Gotta vent!)
You should go back there and give t
>
> From: Paul Stenquist <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
> Date: 2006/02/28 Tue AM 11:35:07 GMT
> To: pentax-discuss@pdml.net
> Subject: Re: Miffed at Adorama (Gotta vent!)
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> You should go back there and give them some shit.
I just washed my hands of the whole affair.
&g
You should go back there and give them some shit.
On Feb 28, 2006, at 4:06 AM, mike wilson wrote:
From: Cotty <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Date: 2006/02/28 Tue AM 07:42:45 GMT
To: "pentax list"
Subject: Re: Miffed at Adorama (Gotta vent!)
On 27/2/06, mike wilson, discombobulated, un
>
> From: Cotty <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
> Date: 2006/02/28 Tue AM 07:42:45 GMT
> To: "pentax list"
> Subject: Re: Miffed at Adorama (Gotta vent!)
>
> On 27/2/06, mike wilson, discombobulated, unleashed:
>
> >I went to buy a toilet seat at the weekend
On 27/2/06, mike wilson, discombobulated, unleashed:
>I went to buy a toilet seat at the weekend. There were three listed as
>in stock but no location given, so I couldn't have one. _That's_ crap
>service.
That would piss me off.
Cheers,
Cotty
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Sorry to hear about your troubles in finding the camera you want.
I usually order my film from Adorama. Never had a problem.
I was actually at Adorama on the 19th (Sunday) of this month. As you
know, and I will make an OT post later when I get some time, I was in
search of a Leica rangefinde
://webpages.charter.net/graywolf
"Idiot Proof" <==> "Expert Proof"
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William Robb wrote:
- Original Message - From: "Shel Belinkoff"
Subject: Re: Miffed at Adorama (Gotta vent!)
The DS2 was on their site for quite some time after
I'm not looking for guarantees, but I do have an expectation of a certain
level of service. That probably stems from my background. Pretty much my
whole family was in a service business at one time or another. Plus, I
grew up in the era of trust and respect.
Sure, many here are looking for a lo
- Original Message -
From: "Larry Levy"
Subject: Re: Miffed at Adorama (Gotta vent!)
On this list, most of us are looking for the low-cost reliable purveyor.
Sometimes, gurantees of proper customer service are one of the costs the
provider chooses to pare.
Sadly
Shel continued to vent with:
While in general you're correct about calling and speaking to a person
live, that's still no guarantee of getting good service these days. I've
made numerous calls to various stores about this camera, and only three
people I spoke with were knowledgeable, friendly,
Shel Belinkoff wrote:
What kind of crap is that. Either the camera is in stock or it's not.
Either they can ship or they can't. But to ask a customer to wait and see
what happens is ludicrous. What ever happened to service?
I went to buy a toilet seat at the weekend. There were three listed
In passing Shel provided:
The last two purchases I made from B&H went to my PO box and were shipped
from Brooklyn, NY, not from Manhattan where the store is located.
Makes sense considering where their warehouse is located.
Larry in Dallas
While in general you're correct about calling and speaking to a person
live, that's still no guarantee of getting good service these days. I've
made numerous calls to various stores about this camera, and only three
people I spoke with were knowledgeable, friendly, and genuinely helpful.
Another
A truly miffed Shel posted:
Yesterday I ordered an istDS2 from Adorama. The item was prominently
posted on their site. It's time consuming to fill out all the forms and
provide the information, but it had to be done ;-)) I was so happy to
have
found the camera I've been looking for availabl
Yesterday I ordered an istDS2 from Adorama. The item was prominently
posted on their site. It's time consuming to fill out all the forms and
provide the information, but it had to be done ;-)) I was so happy to
have
found the camera I've been looking for available here in the US.
This aftern
- Original Message -
From: "Shel Belinkoff"
Subject: Re: Miffed at Adorama (Gotta vent!)
Bill, I agree with you about Pentax having a greater hand in the
distribution of their products. All I want, and probably other customers
want as well, is a straight answer to my que
I cancelled the order. I don't want to deal with this company any more. I
called a place in Illinois and spoke to a very nice lady who will check on
the availability of the camera. If she can't get it, then I'm going to
purchase the camera in Canada. I've just had it with trying to buy one
here
On Mon, 27 Feb 2006, Shel Belinkoff wrote:
I called Adorama this morning to be sure that the order I placed has been
cancelled and that my credit card was not charged. I spoke with a fellow
named Tobias. He said that the camera is not on backorder, and that he
shows two in stock. His suggestion
I called Adorama this morning to be sure that the order I placed has been
cancelled and that my credit card was not charged. I spoke with a fellow
named Tobias. He said that the camera is not on backorder, and that he
shows two in stock. His suggestion was that I not cancel the order and wait
to th
On Feb 27, 2006, at 4:47 AM, graywolf wrote:
Don't worry, not only does the wholesaler not stock the product,
neither does Pentax Imaging the importer. Pentax's distribution center
in the Philippines may or may not have it in stock. It is the modern
way to do business.
You're right -- I for
I've been doing business with B&H for at least a decade and probably
over $20,000 worth of goods. They're not perfect, they screw up now
and then too. I've had two mishaps on orders. But all in all they've
provided high quality service even when they do screw up.
Godfrey
On Feb 27, 2006, a
- Original Message -
From: "Shel Belinkoff"
Subject: Re: Miffed at Adorama (Gotta vent!)
The DS2 was on their site for quite some time after I placed my order -
almost 24 hours. Anyway, I'm past that and am continuing to look for the
camera here in the US. I'm
I haven't had purchases at quite the same level, but my experience with
B&H has been only positive.
Jack
--- Paul Stenquist <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> I've purchased two cameras and at least a dozen lenses from B&H in
> the
> last two years. No problems.
> Paul
> On Feb 26, 2006, at 10:21 PM
harter.net/graywolf
"Idiot Proof" <==> "Expert Proof"
---
mike wilson wrote:
From: Aaron Reynolds <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Date: 2006/02/27 Mon AM 01:55:50 GMT
To: pentax-discuss@pdml.net
Subject: Re: Miffed at Adorama (Gotta vent!)
On Fe
Never had problems with B&H shipping to my PO box. They certainly don't
charge a $42.00 premium for doing so. The last two purchases I made from
B&H went to my PO box and were shipped from Brooklyn, NY, not from
Manhattan where the store is located.
Shel
> [Original Message]
> From: Joseph Ta
The DS2 was on their site for quite some time after I placed my order -
almost 24 hours. Anyway, I'm past that and am continuing to look for the
camera here in the US. I'm probably more miffed at Pentax for not having
the camera in stock or available for purchase here in the US.
Shel
> [Origi
>
> From: Aaron Reynolds <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
> Date: 2006/02/27 Mon AM 01:55:50 GMT
> To: pentax-discuss@pdml.net
> Subject: Re: Miffed at Adorama (Gotta vent!)
>
>
> On Feb 26, 2006, at 8:53 PM, John Francis wrote:
>
> > But nowadays they seem to be
Shel -
Here in the Milwaukee area we have two dealers that have had the DS2 in
stock. If you'd like, I can check tomorrow to see if they still have
them. Price around $800, body only plus Wisconsin sales tax
-P
Shel Belinkoff wrote:
The other thing that annoyed me was that Adorama
My solution to that one is a friendly store owner.
Never have seen a pile of UPS boxes on on the sidewalk in front of a
store have you? Funny thing is when delivering to a store if they are
closed UPS just leaves it on the truck and brings it back the next day.
My buddy's store uptown sells d
At 8:53 PM -0500 2/26/06, John Francis wrote:
On Sun, Feb 26, 2006 at 05:34:33PM -0800, Shel Belinkoff wrote:
Yesterday I ordered an istDS2 from Adorama. The item was prominently
posted on their site. It's time consuming to fill out all the forms and
provide the information, but it had to b
i have never ever had a (worth mentioning) problem with
either b&h or adorama. when i lived in boston, ordering
from adorama with the cheapest shipping option (ground ups)
usually meant that i would get the package next evening!
best,
mishka
On 2/26/06, Paul Stenquist <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
>
I've purchased two cameras and at least a dozen lenses from B&H in the
last two years. No problems.
Paul
On Feb 26, 2006, at 10:21 PM, Joseph Tainter wrote:
Good to have another venter on the list, Shel. You have my
understanding.
In 2004, Adorama listed the DA 14 in June. I ordered it the d
Good to have another venter on the list, Shel. You have my
understanding.
In 2004, Adorama listed the DA 14 in June. I ordered it the day
it went up on their site. I received it in October.
Last year when I wanted to get the DA 40, Adorama had it listed
first. I ordered as soon as it showed
The other thing that annoyed me was that Adorama wanted $56.00 to ship to
my PO Box and only $14.00 to ship to my home via
United Parcel. I much prefer having expensive gear go to the PO Box as
it's safer (doesn't sit out in plain sight of the street if I can't be
there when the truck arrives), an
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> stuff.
>
>
>
> - Original Message -
> From: "Aaron Reynolds" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
> To:
> Sent: Sunday, February 26, 2006 8:55 PM
> Subject: Re: Miffed at Adorama (Gotta vent!)
>
Yes, Bill, I know ;-)) But before buying through Canada I'd like to see if
I can get the camera through a US dealer. It just makes shipping and
warranty issues simpler. Actually, there are several Canadian places that
I know have the camera. If I can't get the camera here in the next few
days,
- Original Message -
From: "Shel Belinkoff"
Subject: Re: Miffed at Adorama (Gotta vent!)
While that may be the case, numerous other retailers seem to know that the
camera was neither in stock at their location, and that it is not
available
at this time through wholesaler
While that may be the case, numerous other retailers seem to know that the
camera was neither in stock at their location, and that it is not available
at this time through wholesalers or other sources, and make note of that
one way or another right up front.
Surprisingly, I attempted to place an o
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- Original Message -
From: "Aaron Reynolds" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
To:
Sent: Sunday, February 26, 2006 8:55 PM
Subject: Re: Miffed at Adorama (Gotta vent!)
On Feb 26, 2006, at 8:53 PM, John
On Feb 26, 2006, at 8:53 PM, John Francis wrote:
But nowadays they seem to be reluctant to show items as out-of-stock.
It's because they probably didn't know that Pentax had no stock -- more
and more often these days, online retailers don't have a stocked
warehouse. When you order the prod
On Sun, Feb 26, 2006 at 05:34:33PM -0800, Shel Belinkoff wrote:
> Yesterday I ordered an istDS2 from Adorama. The item was prominently
> posted on their site. It's time consuming to fill out all the forms and
> provide the information, but it had to be done ;-)) I was so happy to have
> found th
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