Re: OT OM-D OMG!

2012-06-11 Thread Steven Desjardins
m43 lenses are still a bit limited in range, as noted elsewhere, but many are commensurate in size with the bodies. On Mon, Jun 11, 2012 at 6:05 PM, steve harley wrote: > on 2012-06-10 17:11 Steven Desjardins wrote > >> Here's a comparison between the D7000 and the OMD EM5.  The Nikon is >> twice

Re: OT OM-D OMG!

2012-06-11 Thread steve harley
on 2012-06-10 17:11 Steven Desjardins wrote Here's a comparison between the D7000 and the OMD EM5. The Nikon is twice the mass as well. The OMD is a small camera and the D7000 isn't. This kind of trade off is a very personal thing so it's hard to make a definitive argument, but lots of folks h

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2012-06-11 Thread Bob W
> From: pdml-boun...@pdml.net [mailto:pdml-boun...@pdml.net] On Behalf Of > John Sessoms > > Latin est a mortuus lingua > ut mortuus ut potest esse > Illud occidit omnem romanos > et nunc suus occidere me > Modicum de Caesar > Paulo Cicero > Iuvat ad replete locis > ubi insanis populum > http:/

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2012-06-11 Thread Bob W
esting, and there is still a great deal unexplained. B > > -Original Message- > From: pdml-boun...@pdml.net [mailto:pdml-boun...@pdml.net] On Behalf Of > Tim Bray > Sent: Monday, June 11, 2012 2:57 PM > To: Pentax-Discuss Mail List > Subject: Re: OT OM-D OMG! > &

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2012-06-11 Thread J.C. O'Connell
Isnt English a Germanic language?? - J.C.O'Connell hifis...@gate.net - -Original Message- From: pdml-boun...@pdml.net [mailto:pdml-boun...@pdml.net] On Behalf Of Tim Bray Sent: Monday, June 11, 2012 2:57 PM To: Pentax-Discuss Mail List Subject: Re: OT

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2012-06-11 Thread Bob W
gt; is, the common ancestor of each, so it has a different name. > > > > B > > > >> -Original Message- > >> From: pdml-boun...@pdml.net [mailto:pdml-boun...@pdml.net] On Behalf > >> Of P. J. Alling > >> Sent: 11 June 2012 20:08 > >> To: Pentax-Disc

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2012-06-11 Thread Tim Bray
essage- >> From: pdml-boun...@pdml.net [mailto:pdml-boun...@pdml.net] On Behalf Of >> P. J. Alling >> Sent: 11 June 2012 20:08 >> To: Pentax-Discuss Mail List >> Subject: Re: OT OM-D OMG! >> >> OK.  Proto Frisian... >> >> Bob W wrote: >> >

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2012-06-11 Thread Bob W
--Original Message- > From: pdml-boun...@pdml.net [mailto:pdml-boun...@pdml.net] On Behalf Of > P. J. Alling > Sent: 11 June 2012 20:08 > To: Pentax-Discuss Mail List > Subject: Re: OT OM-D OMG! > > OK. Proto Frisian... > > Bob W wrote: > > It's descende

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2012-06-11 Thread Bob W
gt; From: pdml-boun...@pdml.net [mailto:pdml-boun...@pdml.net] On Behalf Of > Tim Bray > Sent: 11 June 2012 19:57 > To: Pentax-Discuss Mail List > Subject: Re: OT OM-D OMG! > > Actually, if you go through an etymological dictionary and count the > inheritance of English words, various

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2012-06-11 Thread P. J. Alling
OK. Proto Frisian... Bob W wrote: It's descended from Frisian in the same way that humans are descended from chimps. That it is to say, not. They have a common ancestor. B Modern English is a vibrant living language that's the bastard child of Frisian and French. What would you expect B

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2012-06-11 Thread Tim Bray
Actually, if you go through an etymological dictionary and count the inheritance of English words, various flavors of Frisian are the leader by a fairly wide margin. French is right up there too. But I agree that the “bastard child” explanation, naming only two languages, is unduly limiting. There

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2012-06-11 Thread John Sessoms
From: "P. J. Alling" Modern English is a vibrant living language that's the bastard child of Frisian and French. What would you expect We prefer the term "hybrid vigor". -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML

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2012-06-11 Thread John Sessoms
From: Bipin Gupta Hey Bob, LATIN is "RIP". It is a dead language. Even the Catholic Church gave up Sunday Mass in Latin a long time ago. But here is a lovely LATIN Prayer I learnt long time ago at public school. Ave Maria, gratia plena, Dominus tecum. Benedicta tu in mu-li-eri-bus, Et benedictu

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2012-06-11 Thread Bob W
It's descended from Frisian in the same way that humans are descended from chimps. That it is to say, not. They have a common ancestor. B > > Modern English is a vibrant living language that's the bastard child of > Frisian and French. What would you expect > > Bruce Walker wrote: > > English

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2012-06-11 Thread P. J. Alling
Modern English is a vibrant living language that's the bastard child of Frisian and French. What would you expect Bruce Walker wrote: English appears to be a dead language too. LOL! WTF? etc. On Mon, Jun 11, 2012 at 1:59 PM, P. J. Alling wrote: Latin's a dead language, as dead as it can

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2012-06-11 Thread Bob W
> From: pdml-boun...@pdml.net [mailto:pdml-boun...@pdml.net] On Behalf Of > Bipin Gupta > > Hey Bob, LATIN is "RIP". It is a dead language. Even the Catholic > Church gave up Sunday Mass in Latin a long time ago. Nevertheless, even in English 'alumni' is not the word you're looking for. > But he

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2012-06-11 Thread Bruce Walker
English appears to be a dead language too. LOL! WTF? etc. On Mon, Jun 11, 2012 at 1:59 PM, P. J. Alling wrote: > Latin's a dead language, > as dead as it can be. > First it killed the Romans, > and now it's killing me. >  -some anonymous school boy. > > > Bipin Gupta wrote: >> >> Hey Bob, LATIN

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2012-06-11 Thread P. J. Alling
Latin's a dead language, as dead as it can be. First it killed the Romans, and now it's killing me. -some anonymous school boy. Bipin Gupta wrote: Hey Bob, LATIN is "RIP". It is a dead language. Even the Catholic Church gave up Sunday Mass in Latin a long time ago. But here is a lovely LATIN P

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2012-06-11 Thread Eric Weir
On Jun 10, 2012, at 12:28 PM, Bob W wrote: >> I should know as I am an alumni of the University of >> Cambridge. > > But not a Latin scholar, obviously... Drives me nuts when I see that on window decals and bumper stickers. It appears English usage has evolved beyond the Latin in this instance

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2012-06-10 Thread Steven Desjardins
Wow. I didn't know the E5 was that big. I admit this website is a favorite of mine and gets a lot of use. Of course, Pentax has one of the best size ranges: http://camerasize.com/compare/#211,190 On Sun, Jun 10, 2012 at 8:16 PM, P. J. Alling wrote: > As long as you're there, if you want to ha

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2012-06-10 Thread P. J. Alling
As long as you're there, if you want to have some fun, compare the Oly E-5 to the OM-D... Steven Desjardins wrote: OK, here's the comparison ;-( http://camerasize.com/compare/#7,289 On Sun, Jun 10, 2012 at 7:11 PM, Steven Desjardins wrote: Which one were you, Bill? Here's a comparison b

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2012-06-10 Thread Steven Desjardins
Boris, I'm not sure this is subtlety of the English language but rather a stupid comment by the reviewer. ;-) On Sun, Jun 10, 2012 at 2:11 AM, Boris Liberman wrote: > I'd say you're slightly taller than her... I'd also be so bold as to > omit the double quotes around the word "slightly". Yet I li

Re: OT OM-D OMG!

2012-06-10 Thread Steven Desjardins
OK, here's the comparison ;-( http://camerasize.com/compare/#7,289 On Sun, Jun 10, 2012 at 7:11 PM, Steven Desjardins wrote: > Which one were you, Bill? > > Here's a comparison between the D7000 and the OMD EM5.  The Nikon is > twice the mass as well.  The OMD is a small camera and the D7000 > i

Re: OT OM-D OMG!

2012-06-10 Thread Steven Desjardins
Which one were you, Bill? Here's a comparison between the D7000 and the OMD EM5. The Nikon is twice the mass as well. The OMD is a small camera and the D7000 isn't. This kind of trade off is a very personal thing so it's hard to make a definitive argument, but lots of folks have opted for small

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2012-06-10 Thread William Robb
On 10/06/2012 10:22 AM, Bipin Gupta wrote: I agree on the beauty of the English language Boris, and how easy it is to "twist" you into thinking you are being praised, when it could be just the opposite. I should know as I am an alumni of the University of Cambridge. But only people with Briti

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2012-06-10 Thread Bob W
> I should know as I am an alumni of the University of > Cambridge. But not a Latin scholar, obviously... B > -Original Message- > From: pdml-boun...@pdml.net [mailto:pdml-boun...@pdml.net] On Behalf Of > Bipin Gupta > Sent: 10 June 2012 17:22 > To: pdml@pdml.net > Subject: OT OM-D OMG!

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2012-06-09 Thread Boris Liberman
I'd say you're slightly taller than her... I'd also be so bold as to omit the double quotes around the word "slightly". Yet I literally see your point. In fact, this kind of vagueness is what fascinates me the most about English(*) language and English culture. (*) I denote by "English" not only

Re: OT OM-D OMG!

2012-06-09 Thread William Robb
On 09/06/2012 10:16 PM, Boris Liberman wrote: (*) For my personal understanding what "Slightly" means... May be I am wrong all the way... As you can see, I am "slightly" larger than Annsan http://www.robertstech.com/galleries/chicago2010/7da01815.html -- William Robb -- PDML Pentax-Dis

Re: OT OM-D OMG!

2012-06-09 Thread Boris Liberman
On 6/9/2012 22:24, Bipin Gupta wrote: The Editor says that if you do not mind a slightly bigger size, then the Nikon D7000 beats the Olympus hollow. Oh the beauty of English language. Without any intent to start a fight or flame I submit to the court a question - "how slightly bigger???" The

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2012-06-09 Thread Anthony Farr
On 10 June 2012 04:04, William Robb wrote: > On 09/06/2012 11:51 AM, Boris Liberman wrote: >> >> Derby, on the screen, in web size files it does not look any different >> than your other street photography, be it m43 or Pentax or other gear >> you have and use. > > > Other than the busy bokeh.

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2012-06-09 Thread Bruce Walker
I really like "Walk like an Egyptian" (nokton/07) and the two skateboards (nokton/06). Great stuff! On Sat, Jun 9, 2012 at 8:30 AM, Derby Chang wrote: > > I'm on a business trip to China tomorrow, and semi-impulse buy, I picked up > an OM-D today. So beautiful. I really hope Ollie stays afloat s

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2012-06-09 Thread Larry Colen
On Jun 9, 2012, at 5:30 AM, Derby Chang wrote: > > I'm on a business trip to China tomorrow, and semi-impulse buy, I picked up > an OM-D today. So beautiful. I really hope Ollie stays afloat so they can > keep making gear like this. I'll be very interested to read your longer term review on i

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2012-06-09 Thread Fernando
Enjoyed them all, nice stuff. Particularly the one with the smoker. On Sat, Jun 9, 2012 at 8:30 AM, Derby Chang wrote: > > I'm on a business trip to China tomorrow, and semi-impulse buy, I picked up > an OM-D today. So beautiful. I really hope Ollie stays afloat so they can > keep making gear lik

Re: OT OM-D OMG!

2012-06-09 Thread William Robb
On 09/06/2012 11:51 AM, Boris Liberman wrote: Derby, on the screen, in web size files it does not look any different than your other street photography, be it m43 or Pentax or other gear you have and use. Other than the busy bokeh.. -- William Robb -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@p

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2012-06-09 Thread Boris Liberman
Derby, on the screen, in web size files it does not look any different than your other street photography, be it m43 or Pentax or other gear you have and use. I reckon, the OMG comes from something that does not immediately show on the web size files... Specifically, I wonder about the viewfind

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2012-06-09 Thread knarftheria...@gmail.com
Back to back faves: the woman blowing smoke and the child piggybacked on the man's shoulders stand out for me. Enjoy China! Can't wait to see those pix. Cheers, frank "What can be asserted without proof can be dismissed without proof." -- Christopher Hitchens --- Original Message --- From: