Re: The Luminous Landscape previews 645Z

2014-07-07 Thread Bruce Walker
> I can make you mine, stop down to f/9 Mark! And strong competition to Bill's for quote of the year. On Mon, Jul 7, 2014 at 6:57 PM, Stanley Halpin wrote: > > On Jul 7, 2014, at 4:27 PM, Bruce Walker wrote: > >> On Mon, Jul 7, 2014 at 4:22 PM, Mark Roberts >> wrote: >>> >>> Richard Womer wr

Re: The Luminous Landscape previews 645Z

2014-07-07 Thread Luka Knezevic-Strika
> The Nikon doesn't take Pentax lenses. If you have used both, you won't need > an explanation. > shouldn't it be possible to adapt 6x7 lenses to anything 35mm and smaller? -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML,

Re: The Luminous Landscape previews 645Z

2014-07-07 Thread Stanley Halpin
On Jul 7, 2014, at 4:27 PM, Bruce Walker wrote: > On Mon, Jul 7, 2014 at 4:22 PM, Mark Roberts > wrote: >> >> Richard Womer wrote: >> >>> We all need negative, nitpicking reviews like that! >> >> I read that review a few days ago and considered posting it here under >> the title "Rave Revie

Re: The Luminous Landscape previews 645Z

2014-07-07 Thread Mark Roberts
Bill wrote: >My wife can only kill me once. Is it too early for a Quote of the Year award? -- Mark Roberts - Photography & Multimedia www.robertstech.com -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please vis

Re: The Luminous Landscape previews 645Z

2014-07-07 Thread Bill
On 07/07/2014 2:50 PM, Luka Knezevic-Strika wrote: nikon d800 is much cheaper, why exclude it? D3x has advantages mostly in very specific realms of high-end sports photography, which definitely isn't a medium format's forte anyway. Only the size and price realy compare, but if you really want som

Re: The Luminous Landscape previews 645Z

2014-07-07 Thread Bill
On 07/07/2014 2:22 PM, Mark Roberts wrote: The only reason I didn't is that the 645Z is so expensive it's a little irrelevant for virtually everyone here. I'm deciding if I should fire sale my 6x7 gear for some stupidly ridiculous price (I'm thinking the body, 8 lenses, bellows and accessori

Re: The Luminous Landscape previews 645Z

2014-07-07 Thread Mark Roberts
Zos Xavius wrote: >From what I've heard the 6x7 lenses were superb and supposedly better >than the zeiss lenses hassy used on the V series and also better than >the 645 lenses. Most medium format lenses are much lower in absolute resolution than 35mm lenses. They don't need to be as good because

Re: The Luminous Landscape previews 645Z

2014-07-07 Thread Zos Xavius
>From what I've heard the 6x7 lenses were superb and supposedly better than the zeiss lenses hassy used on the V series and also better than the 645 lenses. I don't know how true that exactly is, but I've heard it repeated from various people that shot MF with pentax bodies. If you factor 3-4 reall

Re: The Luminous Landscape previews 645Z

2014-07-07 Thread Luka Knezevic-Strika
true, well nothing than. On Mon, Jul 7, 2014 at 11:07 PM, Mark Roberts wrote: > Luka Knezevic-Strika wrote: > >>well, you can also use the mf lenses on almost anything :D > > Sadly, I think the 645-to-k-mount adapter is out of production. And it > didn't support autofocus. > > -- > Mark Roberts -

Re: The Luminous Landscape previews 645Z

2014-07-07 Thread Mark Roberts
Luka Knezevic-Strika wrote: >well, you can also use the mf lenses on almost anything :D Sadly, I think the 645-to-k-mount adapter is out of production. And it didn't support autofocus. -- Mark Roberts - Photography & Multimedia www.robertstech.com -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pd

Re: The Luminous Landscape previews 645Z

2014-07-07 Thread Luka Knezevic-Strika
well, you can also use the mf lenses on almost anything :D On Mon, Jul 7, 2014 at 10:58 PM, Mark Roberts wrote: > Paul Stenquist wrote: > >>If I felt a strong need for a large sensor camera I'd go for the 8.5K 645Z >>over a Nikon D3x, which is 7K. And it's only $500 more than a Leica >>monochr

Re: The Luminous Landscape previews 645Z

2014-07-07 Thread Mark Roberts
Paul Stenquist wrote: >If I felt a strong need for a large sensor camera I’d go for the 8.5K 645Z >over a Nikon D3x, which is 7K. And it’s only $500 more than a Leica >monochrome. > >Not a bad price for a medium format DSLR. A slam dunk vs. the above. Oh yes. Amazing price for a med format DS

Re: The Luminous Landscape previews 645Z

2014-07-07 Thread Luka Knezevic-Strika
nikon d800 is much cheaper, why exclude it? D3x has advantages mostly in very specific realms of high-end sports photography, which definitely isn't a medium format's forte anyway. Only the size and price realy compare, but if you really want something big, well, just buy a mamiya rb67 and save a t

Re: The Luminous Landscape previews 645Z

2014-07-07 Thread Paul Stenquist
If I felt a strong need for a large sensor camera I’d go for the 8.5K 645Z over a Nikon D3x, which is 7K. And it’s only $500 more than a Leica monochrome. Not a bad price for a medium format DSLR. A slam dunk vs. the above. Paul On Jul 7, 2014, at 4:22 PM, Mark Roberts wrote: > Richard Womer

Re: The Luminous Landscape previews 645Z

2014-07-07 Thread Luka Knezevic-Strika
i also find that they rarely praise a piece of gear that much. all of the criticisms also completely stand, afaic On Mon, Jul 7, 2014 at 10:27 PM, Bruce Walker wrote: > On Mon, Jul 7, 2014 at 4:22 PM, Mark Roberts > wrote: >> >> Richard Womer wrote: >> >> >We all need negative, nitpicking revie

Re: The Luminous Landscape previews 645Z

2014-07-07 Thread Bruce Walker
On Mon, Jul 7, 2014 at 4:22 PM, Mark Roberts wrote: > > Richard Womer wrote: > > >We all need negative, nitpicking reviews like that! > > I read that review a few days ago and considered posting it here under > the title "Rave Review of 645Z at Luminous Landscape". Seriously. > > The only reason I

Re: The Luminous Landscape previews 645Z

2014-07-07 Thread Mark Roberts
Richard Womer wrote: >Aw, c'mon guys, lighten up! The reviewers criticize the green button >and the video, and wonder about the trade-offs of size, price, and >performance compared to smaller cameras (esp. 24x36). They also say >(just going quickly through the review): > >"But we have to put the

Re: The Luminous Landscape previews 645Z

2014-07-07 Thread Richard Womer
d customizable. > > On Mon, Jul 7, 2014 at 1:07 PM, Jack Davis wrote: >> An aggravated, uninspired reluctant literal utterance that simply reflects >> his frustration at failing to produce a negative review. >> >> J >> >> - Original Message - >> Fr

Re: The Luminous Landscape previews 645Z

2014-07-07 Thread Zos Xavius
> An aggravated, uninspired reluctant literal utterance that simply reflects > his frustration at failing to produce a negative review. > > J > > - Original Message - > From: "P.J. Alling" > To: "PDML" > Sent: Monday, July 7, 2014 8:25:05 AM > Sub

Re: The Luminous Landscape previews 645Z

2014-07-07 Thread Jack Davis
An aggravated, uninspired reluctant literal utterance that simply reflects his frustration at failing to produce a negative review. J - Original Message - From: "P.J. Alling" To: "PDML" Sent: Monday, July 7, 2014 8:25:05 AM Subject: The Luminous Landscape previews

Re: The Luminous Landscape previews 645Z

2014-07-07 Thread Bryan Jacoby
This is not inconsistent with my general impression of LL; I'm not sure it's any worse than it ever was. On Mon, Jul 7, 2014 at 11:25 AM, P.J. Alling wrote: > In which after deciding it's pretty good, the author says since I don't > really need it, probably no one else does... Is it me or is eve

Re: The Luminous Landscape previews 645Z

2014-07-07 Thread Collin Brendemuehl
To suggest that nobody really needs it would be like telling wedding (film) photographers that their blads were unnecessary, that 135 was enough. -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link dire

Re: The Luminous Landscape previews 645Z

2014-07-07 Thread Zos Xavius
LL clearly didn't want to give this camera a favorable review and yet kind of had to because there is so little to fault about the camera. On Mon, Jul 7, 2014 at 11:25 AM, P.J. Alling wrote: > In which after deciding it's pretty good, the author says since I don't > really need it, probably no on

The Luminous Landscape previews 645Z

2014-07-07 Thread P.J. Alling
In which after deciding it's pretty good, the author says since I don't really need it, probably no one else does... Is it me or is every photography news blog becoming Kennyboy's? -- A newspaper is a device for making the ignorant more ignorant, and the crazy, crazier. - H.L.Mencken