Re: CHEM. POISONING (was: Toxicity) (Longish, but full of memories)

2001-01-29 Thread W Keith Mosier
Dan wrote: Always nice to hear there is another Marine on the list. S/F - All us jar heads gotta stick together. Dan wrote: I bought my first Pentax while serving as a Marine in Viet Nam. One of my friend photogs at the University of Kentucky was a former Marine photog, a section c

Re: Toxicity city

2001-01-25 Thread Collin Brendemuehl
Used to be that the only rule was to keep the tequilla away from the chicks ;) Collin (not that I'd know anything about that...) Brendemuehl >From: "Treena Harp" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> > >That's about the only thing from high school chemistry I remember, except >for traumatizing my instr

Re: Toxicity city

2001-01-25 Thread Treena Harp
> To: <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> Sent: Thursday, January 25, 2001 3:14 PM Subject: Re: Toxicity city > > > Joseph McAllister wrote: > > > On 01/24/2001 11:17, [EMAIL PROTECTED] opined: > > > > > > > >BTW, on toxicity, I discovered at home a bottle of maximum

Re: Toxicity city

2001-01-25 Thread William Kane
Joseph McAllister wrote: > On 01/24/2001 11:17, [EMAIL PROTECTED] opined: > > > > >BTW, on toxicity, I discovered at home a bottle of maximum purity Glacial > >acetic acid (99.5%) ... should I pour it into water or water into acid ;) ? > >I just can't get

OT: Toxicity city

2001-01-25 Thread mike wilson
Mike Johnston wrote: Stop bath mixed for use has about the same acidity as orange juice or urine. I reply: If your urine is acidic, you either need to see the doctor or we have a new specie! I agree with everyone about being overcautios with chemicals - being bound up with PPE and suffering fr

Re: CHEM. POISONING (was: Toxicity) (Longish, but full of memories)

2001-01-25 Thread W Keith Mosier
JoMac wrote: the photographic lab at Naval Air Station Miramar, San Diego, California had to produce a moderate to humongus number of panchromatic and color 8 x 10 prints in short order. The Kennedy job involved over 24 hours of printing from 4 x 5 dupe negatives using six

Re: CHEM. POISONING (was: Toxicity) (Longish, but full ofmemories)

2001-01-25 Thread Mike Johnston
>When Kennedy was shot... Great post, JoMac. Thanks. --Mike - This message is from the Pentax-Discuss Mail List. To unsubscribe, go to http://www.pdml.net and follow the directions. Don't forget to visit the Pentax Users' Gallery at http://pug.komkon.org.

Re: Toxicity city

2001-01-25 Thread Mike Johnston
So, okay, lessee, I'm mixing up glacial acetic acid...do I add the water to the acid or the acid to the water...it has something to do with an automobile club, AAA...something to do with alphabetical, can't remember what...there's a little rhyme that tells me...what was that again?

Re: Re[2]: Develop Film in Coffee (was Re: Toxicity)

2001-01-25 Thread Mike Johnston
>> Hmm...20 minutes to develop a print in coffee? > > > Yes, but how long to develop that same print in beer? :-P Ah, but there is a great advantage of beer development over coffee development. With coffee you will always get a very poor negative, but with beer, you drink a few and then y

Re: CHEM. POISONING (was: Toxicity) (Longish, but full of memories)

2001-01-24 Thread Joseph McAllister
On 01/24/2001 14:27, [EMAIL PROTECTED] opined: >Photographers in the old days of >19th century were known to die from too much pyro exposure (say, 40 years >of the job, daily, without gloves, actually PUTTING HANDS INTO THE STUFF!!! >Dumb...). I don't think you are gonna die, but maybe develop so

Re: Toxicity city

2001-01-24 Thread Ann Sanfedele
[EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: > (snip) > BTW, on toxicity, I discovered at home a bottle of maximum purity Glacial > acetic acid (99.5%) ... should I pour it into water or water into acid ;) ? > I just can't get myself to remember it right... Well, if I stop responding > to list

Re: Toxicity city

2001-01-24 Thread Joseph McAllister
On 01/24/2001 11:17, [EMAIL PROTECTED] opined: > >BTW, on toxicity, I discovered at home a bottle of maximum purity Glacial >acetic acid (99.5%) ... should I pour it into water or water into acid ;) ? >I just can't get myself to remember it right... Well, if I stop responding

Re: Re[2]: Develop Film in Coffee (was Re: Toxicity)

2001-01-24 Thread bc
On 24 Jan 2001, at 11:01, Alin Flaider wrote: > Hmm...20 minutes to develop a print in coffee? Yes, but how long to develop that same print in beer? :-P - This message is from the Pentax-Discuss Mail List. To unsubscribe, go to http://www.pdml.net and follow the directions. Don't forget t

Re: Toxicity city

2001-01-24 Thread Bob Blakely
Lake Erie is toxic. Regards, Bob... Give blood. Play hockey. - Original Message - From: "William Robb" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> To: <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> Sent: Wednesday, January 24, 2001 8:55 PM Subject: Re: Toxicity city > > - Original Message - >

Re: Toxicity city

2001-01-24 Thread Cy Galley
ary 24, 2001 1:17 PM Subject: Re: Toxicity city > At 00:51 23.1.2001 -0500, you wrote: > >Ok, wolfman, will coffee work for developing prints as well? should I use > green or > >dark roast? > > > >Yours in health, > >nurse annsan > > Ann, I am sorry but I r

Re: Toxicity city

2001-01-24 Thread canislupus
(as I mentioned at the end of my post) only read about coffee developer, and the article bt Tony McLean mentioned nothing about prints. Most propably yes, but at tooo long times. I would certainly sip the coffee off the tray to stay awake ;) BTW, on toxicity, I discovered at home a bottle of maximum

CHEM. POISONING (was: Toxicity)

2001-01-24 Thread canislupus
I finally remembered where I read such an exhaustive article on chemical poisoning and safety precautions. Where else but the Focal press Encyclopaedia of Photographu ("Encyclopaedia Ggigantica Photographica Maxima") from the Seventies. It deals with dermatitis and ways to heal it, etc. I recomme

Re: Toxicity (was Warning!)

2001-01-24 Thread pentax
A scroll of mail from Aaron Reynolds <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> Read it? y >JoMac: I discovered the secret of standing far away and using long tongs >about thirty seconds into my clothing-optional bacon frying excursion. >I learn fast when it hurts. you just need a lid on your wok, and stir things arou

Re: Toxicity (was Warning!)

2001-01-24 Thread Aaron Reynolds
Dan Scott wrote: > That's the problem right there. TVs should come with a warning label > "Warning, prolonged exposure can lead to paranoia, delusions, loss of > identity, and mental decline." Not to mention bad judgement and hallucinations. JoMac: I discovered the secret of standing far away

Re[2]: Develop Film in Coffee (was Re: Toxicity)

2001-01-24 Thread Alin Flaider
Gerald wrote: GC> Hmm...20 minutes to develop a print in coffee? I'd say bearable considering you can share the developer. But hey, don't forget to label the used cup. ;o) Servus, Alin - This message is from the Pentax-Discuss Mail List. To unsubscribe, go to http://www.pdml.net

Develop Film in Coffee (was Re: Toxicity)

2001-01-23 Thread Mike Johnston
> Check this out: > > http://www.rit.edu/~andpph/text-coffee.html > - -- > Shel Belinkoff Interesting. I guess you can find anything on the web. I published that article in _PHOTO Techniques_ in '95 or '96. BTW, Scott Williams is no longer at RIT. --Mike - This message is from the Pentax-

Re: Toxicity (was Warning!)

2001-01-23 Thread Dan Scott
JoMac says: >Almost all my recommended activities are probably one time events, >performed to dispel the fear of doing anything the media (mostly TV) drum >into your head every single day. Butter, eggs, red meat, and milk are >their favorites. That's the problem right there. TVs should come wit

Re: Develop Film in Coffee (was Re: Toxicity)

2001-01-23 Thread Gerald Cermak
Hmm...20 minutes to develop a print in coffee? Very interesting link Shell, thanks for sharing it. - Original Message - From: "Shel Belinkoff" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> To: <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> Sent: Tuesday, January 23, 2001 9:44 AM Subject: Develop Film in Co

Re: Toxicity

2001-01-23 Thread Norman Baugher
I think it was Bob Blakely who posted it... Norm From: Dennis Klimovich > John wrote: Coffee as a developer?? Now that _is_ cool. > --- > Hi John and all. > Two years ago I saw (by link from PDMLers) article on the > web about real use of coffe as developer... > Maybe someone remember where is i

RE: Glacial Acetic Acid. was Re: Toxicity (was Warning!)

2001-01-23 Thread Peifer, William [OCDUS]
William Robb wrote: >I thought EVERYONE knew that!!! Standard procedure in my lab. Bill, You'd be surprised. One of the young "chemists" in our company, with a freshly minted undergraduate degree, came to me one day because he was a bit by confused by the ideal gas law. (Certainly something tha

Re: Glacial Acetic Acid. was Re: Toxicity (was Warning!)

2001-01-23 Thread William Robb
- Original Message - From: "Peifer, William [OCDUS]" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> To: <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> Sent: January 23, 2001 8:04 AM Subject: RE: Glacial Acetic Acid. was Re: Toxicity (was Warning!) > William Robb wrote: > >Anyway, the only time I take any

RE: Glacial Acetic Acid. was Re: Toxicity (was Warning!)

2001-01-23 Thread Peifer, William [OCDUS]
William Robb wrote: >Anyway, the only time I take any sort of precautions, other than >common sense, with chemistry is when I am working with the >stuff >I don't wear protective gear with the stock solution, >just the full strength acid. >For that, I wear a neoprene apron, neoprene gloves, gog

Re: Toxicity (was Warning!)

2001-01-23 Thread Aaron Reynolds
Joseph McAllister wrote: > cook bacon naked As a Canadian, I can tell you that this is very bad advice. Most of us up here don't do it a second time. Aaron - This message is from the Pentax-Discuss Mail List. To unsubscribe, go to http://www.pdml.net and follow the directions. Don't forge

OT: Re: Toxicity (Warning)

2001-01-23 Thread mike wilson
JoMac wrote: I see you subscribe to the "protect us all from cradle to grave from any threat or damage" school, foisted upon us by the media these past 20 years. If only you knew how wrong that statement is 8-)) Live life at ease, not in fear. You have surprisingly little control

RE: Toxicity

2001-01-22 Thread Dennis Klimovich
John wrote: Coffee as a developer?? Now that _is_ cool. --- Hi John and all. Two years ago I saw (by link from PDMLers) article on the web about real use of coffe as developer... Maybe someone remember where is it? Den - This message is from the Pentax-Discuss Mail List. To unsubscribe, go to ht

Re: Toxicity city

2001-01-22 Thread Ann Sanfedele
I'm glad to see there are others on the list who feel discretion is the better part of valor regarding darkroom chemicals. To Mike Wilson I say thank you for stressing the dangers. To MIke Johnson I say, it doesn't really matter to me if technically the amount of vinegar I put in the stop isn't

Re: TOXICITY (Warning!)

2001-01-22 Thread Ann Sanfedele
Mike - so glad you posted this - Your warning was much stronger than mine (which I presume you read) and backed with more detail that I was unable to recall. Regards, annsan - This message is from the Pentax-Discuss Mail List. To unsubscribe, go to http://www.pdml.net and follow the directions.

Re: Toxicity (was Warning!)

2001-01-22 Thread William Robb
Words to live by. Thanks JoMac - Original Message - From: "Joseph McAllister" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> To: <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> Sent: Monday, January 22, 2001 7:36 PM Subject: Re: Toxicity (was Warning!) > And: eat eggs for breakfast every day; use butter, it&#x

Re: Toxicity (was Warning!)

2001-01-22 Thread Joseph McAllister
mike wilson wrote: > Hi, > > Sorry folks, but I think you are not being forceful enough about > using Glacial Acetic Acid. > > This is an _extremely_ nasty chemical whose _fumes_ will damage > your eyes. I would not dream of opening a bottle in the > confined space of a darkrooom. The smell (an

RE: Toxicity

2001-01-22 Thread John . Cohen
x:  +1 303 315-5967 [EMAIL PROTECTED] -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] Sent: Monday, 22 January, 2001 06:31 To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: Re: Toxicity At 17:59 21.1.2001 -0600, you wrote: > > >> The stuff you buy >> is wick

Re: Toxicity

2001-01-22 Thread canislupus
le on safety and dermatitis and other safety things regarding photo chemicals, look for an UK "CAMERA & DARKROOM" magazine, issue 41 (1999 #3), article by Tony McLean, "Caution!Beware!!", dealing mostly with Pyro toxicity and common precautions. I could scan it, if the edito

Re: Toxicity

2001-01-21 Thread John Glover
t; <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> To: <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> Sent: Sunday, January 21, 2001 5:59 PM Subject: Toxicity > > > > The stuff you buy > > is wickedly toxic. > > Oh, sorry, I forgot to add, this isn't true either. The stuff you buy is a > mildly acetic solution

A message problem (Was: Toxicity)

2001-01-21 Thread Lasse Karlsson
Hi Mike, I have a problem and you've got a bad habit. :) I notice that you often change the topic line for your messages. That's excellent when the topic line is misleading. However if you don't indicate from what thread you're coming, no one will be able to trace it back and find out what the

Toxicity

2001-01-21 Thread Mike Johnston
> The stuff you buy > is wickedly toxic. Oh, sorry, I forgot to add, this isn't true either. The stuff you buy is a mildly acetic solution with an indicator in it. I'm not suggesting you drink it, but if you did by accident, it's unlikely to hurt you. It's not much more toxic than salad dressin