P. J. Alling wrote:
> I don't know personally, however the word from people who tried to get
> these repaired by Pentax was that the aspheric lens had delaminated and
> couldn't be repaired no parts were available, a cemented group could be
> repaired, but it might not be economically feasible s
Op Thu, 05 Jun 2008 22:07:24 +0200 schreef P. J. Alling
<[EMAIL PROTECTED]>:
O.k., thanks. Interesting to know. Like you said, it is a very nice lens.
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> I don't know personally, however the word from people who tried to get
> these repaired by Pentax was that the aspheric lens
No, there hasn't been stock in several months. K10D's were still
available when K100D Super stock ran out in Canada.
-Adam
On Thu, Jun 5, 2008 at 6:57 PM, Brian Walters <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> Isn't the K100D Super still being offered there?
>
> It's still on sale and being advertised here -
- Original Message -
From: "Bob Sullivan"
Subject: Re: smc PENTAX-DA 17-70mmF4AL[IF] SDM
>Buy something else!
That is the problem Pentax will have to deal with if they don't offer good
value (comparable
specifications) for comparable money.
William Robb
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Isn't the K100D Super still being offered there?
It's still on sale and being advertised here - it's even still listed on
the Pentax Aust (aka CR Kennedy) web site (maybe Kennedy has lots of old
stock).
Cheers
Brian
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Brian Walters
Western Sydney Australia
http
If I was buying a sub-$1k body I would. The Sony most likely, or the
Nikon D80 (which is comparable to the K10D, but costs about the same
as the K200D).
The thing is I'm a Pentax fan. I'd really like to see them with a
competitive body in the core of the marketplace. The K20D is a great
body and c
whine, whine, whine
Buy something else!
On Thu, Jun 5, 2008 at 8:02 AM, Adam Maas <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> Not here it isn't. It's about $200 over the Sony A200 kit at base
> price ($850 vs $650), and the Sony an be had on sale under $500 on
> occasion. The Sony offers everything the K200D
I don't know personally, however the word from people who tried to get
these repaired by Pentax was that the aspheric lens had delaminated and
couldn't be repaired no parts were available, a cemented group could be
repaired, but it might not be economically feasible slight difference.
It seems
Op Wed, 04 Jun 2008 18:52:43 +0200 schreef P. J. Alling
<[EMAIL PROTECTED]>:
> Interesting, the lens contains not one but two composite, aspherical
> elements, the composite aspherical element was the achillies heel of the
> smcp FA 28-70mm f4.0 an otherwise exemplary little lens.
>
> Dario Bona
Yeah I know, good point on the buffer, this is indeed THE drawback of
that otherwise very nice camera.
On Thu, Jun 5, 2008 at 3:02 PM, Adam Maas <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> Not here it isn't. It's about $200 over the Sony A200 kit at base
> price ($850 vs $650), and the Sony an be had on sale und
Not here it isn't. It's about $200 over the Sony A200 kit at base
price ($850 vs $650), and the Sony an be had on sale under $500 on
occasion. The Sony offers everything the K200D does except AA
batteries and sealing and adds a usable buffer, faster AF and better
batteries.
The K200D's buffer spec
>
> From: AlunFoto <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
> Date: 2008/06/04 Wed PM 10:01:58 GMT
> To: "Pentax-Discuss Mail List"
> Subject: Re: smc PENTAX-DA 17-70mmF4AL[IF] SDM
>
> 2008/6/4 P. J. Alling <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>:
> > The composite elements were a sphe
K200D is competitive IMO although this isn't a real low-end body: 490€
is OK to me.
On Thu, Jun 5, 2008 at 2:48 AM, Adam Maas <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> The masses? probably not, they'll be set with the 18-55 and 50-200.
> But they'll likely not buy Pentax right now since Pentax lacks a
> compet
The masses? probably not, they'll be set with the 18-55 and 50-200.
But they'll likely not buy Pentax right now since Pentax lacks a
competitive sub-$1K camera. Semi-serious photogs? certainly. It's a
longer-range replacement for the well-liked 16-45/4. Nikon's similar
range 18-70 and 16-85VR are a
On Jun 4, 2008, at 4:40 PM, Cory Waters wrote:
> I mostly agree with Savage on this one. I mean, unless the lens is
> WAY
> better than the kit lens
> On the other hand, I guess it depends on the price. Do we think that
> the masses would buy such a thing?
I suspect that, if given the cho
Wow Bob... I never considered that his reply wasn't serious... I
personally love the OT GFM chatter :)
I mostly agree with Savage on this one. I mean, unless the lens is WAY
better than the kit lens
On the other hand, I guess it depends on the price. Do we think that
the masses would buy
I don't know, Pentax supposedly pioneered the technique. We can only
hope they got it right eventually...
AlunFoto wrote:
> 2008/6/4 P. J. Alling <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>:
>
>> The composite elements were a spherical glass component with an optical
>> plastic having an "identical" diffraction inde
2008/6/4 Jaume Lahuerta <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>:
> Probably one has to be better known in order to be successful with irony...
> ;-)
LOL. I think you're just about getting there, Jaume.
Cheers,
Jostein
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2008/6/4 P. J. Alling <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>:
> The composite elements were a spherical glass component with an optical
> plastic having an "identical" diffraction index, molded to the glass
> component to form the aspheric element. The optical plastic was the
> glue...
Thanks, I didn't know that.
;-)
Regards,
Jaume
- Mensaje original
De: AlunFoto <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Para: Pentax-Discuss Mail List
Enviado: miércoles, 4 de junio, 2008 22:25:47
Asunto: Re: smc PENTAX-DA 17-70mmF4AL[IF] SDM
What Bob said about the GFM week-end. Some of us have even travelled
across significant
On Wed, Jun 4, 2008 at 5:21 PM, P. J. Alling <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
>> That lens travels at faster than the speed of sound, man!! How can
>> you not be excited about it?
>>
>> cheers,
>> frank
>>
>>
> Maybe, but only over very, very short distances...
Primes may be faster, but zooms have mor
frank theriault wrote:
> On Wed, Jun 4, 2008 at 10:35 AM, David Savage <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
>
>> :-D
>>
>> What I mean is it's another lens in the 16-XX range. It does nothing
>> to excite me.
>>
>> That & it's almost time for bed :-)
>>
>
> That lens travels at faster than the speed
On Wed, Jun 4, 2008 at 10:35 AM, David Savage <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> :-D
>
> What I mean is it's another lens in the 16-XX range. It does nothing
> to excite me.
>
> That & it's almost time for bed :-)
That lens travels at faster than the speed of sound, man!! How can
you not be excited abo
The composite elements were a spherical glass component with an optical
plastic having an "identical" diffraction index, molded to the glass
component to form the aspheric element. The optical plastic was the
glue...
AlunFoto wrote:
> I think the achilles heel of the FA 28-70/4 was actually t
e old
>> mountain instead...
>>
>> ;-)
>>
>> Jaume
>>
>> - Mensaje original
>> De: David Savage <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
>> Para: Pentax-Discuss Mail List
>> Enviado: miércoles, 4 de junio, 2008 16:05:16
>> Asunto: Re
I think the achilles heel of the FA 28-70/4 was actually the quality
of the cement used to glue the elements together, rather than the
elements themselves. Pentax has done a lot of lenses with AL since
then, without repeating the mistake.
Jostein
2008/6/4 P. J. Alling <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>:
> Inter
talk about that camping party in the old
> mountain instead...
>
> ;-)
>
> Jaume
>
> - Mensaje original
> De: David Savage <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
> Para: Pentax-Discuss Mail List
> Enviado: miércoles, 4 de junio, 2008 16:05:16
> Asunto: Re: smc PE
id Savage <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
> > Para: Pentax-Discuss Mail List
> > Enviado: mi?rcoles, 4 de junio, 2008 16:05:16
> > Asunto: Re: smc PENTAX-DA 17-70mmF4AL[IF] SDM
> >
> > Sorry but:
> >
> > Yawn.
> >
> > Cheers,
> >
> > Dav
Interesting, the lens contains not one but two composite, aspherical
elements, the composite aspherical element was the achillies heel of the
smcp FA 28-70mm f4.0 an otherwise exemplary little lens.
Dario Bonazza wrote:
> http://www.dpreview.com/news/0806/08060301pentax17-70sdm.asp
>
>
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You didn't have to answer, it was a rhetorical/ironic question...
[EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
> I still use my ist D. Have thought about getting a 200 D, but after
> using my D in China, and seeing the results, I put that thought on the
> back burner.
>
> Jim A.
>
>
>
>
>
>
>
>> SDM only accor
I still use my ist D. Have thought about getting a 200 D, but after
using my D in China, and seeing the results, I put that thought on the
back burner.
Jim A.
> SDM only according to the site. It would appeal to *ist D series owners
> and manual focus only will turn some off. Then agai
SDM only according to the site. It would appeal to *ist D series owners
and manual focus only will turn some off. Then again a body only lasts
5 or 6 years in the digital world so who's still using a *ist D class
camera...
Dario Bonazza wrote:
> http://www.dpreview.com/news/0806/08060301penta
That said, it is a range that should be of interest to most
photographers. It produces the equivalent FoV/DoF that the Leica
14-50mm f/2.8-3.5 lens I have on 4/3 provides, or 28-100mm on a Nikon
F, which is the range that I've found to be most useful in my work.
G
On Jun 4, 2008, at 7:35 AM
al
>> De: David Savage <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
>> Para: Pentax-Discuss Mail List
>> Enviado: miércoles, 4 de junio, 2008 16:05:16
>> Asunto: Re: smc PENTAX-DA 17-70mmF4AL[IF] SDM
>>
>> Sorry but:
>>
>> Yawn.
>>
>> Cheers,
>&g
the old
> mountain instead...
>
> ;-)
>
> Jaume
>
> - Mensaje original
> De: David Savage <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
> Para: Pentax-Discuss Mail List
> Enviado: miércoles, 4 de junio, 2008 16:05:16
> Asunto: Re: smc PENTAX-DA 17-70mmF4AL[IF] SDM
>
> Sorry but
It's KAF3 (= SDM only).
Dario
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From: "Mishka" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
To: "Pentax-Discuss Mail List"
Sent: Wednesday, June 04, 2008 4:18 PM
Subject: Re: smc PENTAX-DA 17-70mmF4AL[IF] SDM
>i think that's a fantastic news
>
&g
i think that's a fantastic news
best,
mishka
On Wed, Jun 4, 2008 at 10:05 AM, David Savage <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> Sorry but:
>
> Yawn.
>
> Cheers,
>
> Dave :-)
>
>
> 2008/6/4 Dario Bonazza <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>:
>> http://www.dpreview.com/news/0806/08060301pentax17-70sdm.asp
>
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Yeah, please, no more OTs. Let's talk about that camping party in the old
mountain instead...
;-)
Jaume
- Mensaje original
De: David Savage <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Para: Pentax-Discuss Mail List
Enviado: miércoles, 4 de junio, 2008 16:05:16
Asunto: Re: smc PENTAX-DA 17-70mmF
Sorry but:
Yawn.
Cheers,
Dave :-)
2008/6/4 Dario Bonazza <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>:
> http://www.dpreview.com/news/0806/08060301pentax17-70sdm.asp
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