Is that a camera in his hand or was he just happy to see you?
2010/5/19 Chris Mitchell chris.mitch...@which.net:
(He's the one with his back to the camera)
Another one taken by Karin on her Optio S50.
http://www.mitch.myzen.co.uk/PDML/IMGP1260.jpg
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2010/5/19 Roman Melihhov ro...@blakout.net:
http://roman.blakout.net/?blog=20100519231343
^^^ comments appreciated
Nice shot. There must be a school of these somewhere. Or a nest.
They're all over.
Thanks for sharing
Ecke
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2010/5/19 P. J. Alling webstertwenty...@gmail.com:
In the US we often consider old Nazi memoribilia war trophies, we're not
ashamed of them, after all we beat them. It's better than taking scalps as
some of my ancestors did.
Point taken. Same item, different story. Makes sense looking at
2010/5/20 Boris Liberman bori...@gmail.com:
I am freaking already. Serious.
I guess you have every right. Another statement that goes to show us
it is all about where one is coming from. I for one did freak just as
well. Not as much as Boris, I am quite sure but nonetheless.
Cheers
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Wouldn't it be enough to just click first reply and then edit subject?
Cheers
Ecke
2010/5/20 Anthony Farr farranth...@gmail.com:
1. Click Reply.
2. Copy the contents.
3. Discard the message. You'll be returned to the thread.
4. Hover the pointer over Pentax-Discuss at the top of any
ok let us try this and see what happens
2010/5/20 Anthony Farr farranth...@gmail.com:
On 21 May 2010 05:23, eckinator eckina...@gmail.com wrote:
Wouldn't it be enough to just click first reply and then edit subject?
I don't believe so. Gmail will add headers to any reply within a
thread
Disclaimer: the following is written mind in glasshouse, the author
has made mistakes and wronged people and doesn't see himself above
anyone but is trying to point out a standard that should be considered
desirable by everyone imvho =)
From what I'm reading here this seems to be a cultural issue
2010/5/20 Anthony Farr farranth...@gmail.com:
But which method did you use?
just clicked edit subject and moved some words around
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Well let us ask steve and mike what they use and if they can copy
paste us some headers =)
2010/5/20 Anthony Farr farranth...@gmail.com:
Well dammit, I checked again and a simpleEdit Subject procedure will
indeed create a new thread as Ecki predicted, at least for readers
using a Gmail
who is this anon person anyway?
2010/5/20 Anthony Farr farranth...@gmail.com:
Just checking again.
regards, Anthony
Of what use is lens and light
to those who lack in mind and sight
(Anon)
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What makes you so sure?
2010/5/20 P. J. Alling webstertwenty...@gmail.com:
Someone you don't know.
On 5/20/2010 3:59 PM, eckinator wrote:
who is this anon person anyway?
2010/5/20 Anthony Farrfarranth...@gmail.com:
Just checking again.
regards, Anthony
Of what use is lens
Is use of them mutually exclusive?
Cheers
Ecke
2010/5/20 John Whittingham jo...@carmel.ac.uk:
http://www.dpreview.com/news/1005/10051401sigma120mm400sonypentax.asp#press
Could be of interest to all those finding SR useless on long lenses, the
150-500 APO HSM is already listed at Sigma UK.
2010/5/21 John Sessoms jsessoms...@nc.rr.com:
From: eckinator
who is this anon person anyway?
2010/5/20 Anthony Farr farranth...@gmail.com:
Just checking again.
regards, Anthony
? ?Of what use is lens and light
? ?to those who lack in mind and sight
Goes to show you don't have a memory but instead your memory has you.
Nice shot, nice comment, thanks for sharing
Ecke
2010/5/20 Godfrey DiGiorgi ramar...@mac.com:
A new photo blog post available for your pleasure.
http://godfreydigiorgi.posterous.com/the-time-machine-226
Comments always
Tilt baby, tilt. Very nice indeed. Creamy, too =)
Cheers
Ecke
2010/5/20 Toine to...@repiuk.nl:
Found a Lensbaby 3G for Pentax and used the last light for some quick macros:
http://www.repiuk.nl/index.php/blog-mainmenu-97/133-bokeh-baby
I think I'm in love with my new baby :)
Toine
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Nice =)
Did you use a remote for the 16-50 shot?
And is the DA* pigeon poo proof?
Cheers
Ecke
2010/5/21 Larry Colen l...@red4est.com:
The Tamron 18-250 is not an ideal lens for birding, but occasionally it's
adequately sharp:
http://www.flickr.com/photos/ellarsee/4626335024/
This is sports. It cannot have been taken with a Pentax let alone a K10D.
Liar. I hate you =)
Cheers
Ecke
2010/5/21 p...@philnortheast.com:
V8 powered racing boat making a turn during a race produces plenty of spray:
http://philnortheast.com/aviewfinderdarkly/general/potw/outlawturn.htm
Bill can you explain this, please - I just don't seem to catch your reference?
TIA
Ecke
How about the ones who buy two single device boxes, take the side plates off
so as to make a two gang box and then bring the side plates back for a full
refund?
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Horrible story. Now if you could put the link to donate back into the
message, perhaps a few people here might cough up a few bucks for his
defense =)
Ecke
2010/5/21 27...@comcast.net:
Look what's happening now ...
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From: dqu...@thegrid.net
To: freedoms cry
Great capture Jack, delightful image =)
Cheers
Ecke
2010/5/19 Jack Davis jdavi...@yahoo.com:
Circled the local state managed wildlife area a couple days ago and shot
this:
http://photolightimages.com/aspupload/detail.asp?ID=504
Comments immensely welcome.
Jack
K20, da55~...@300(what
OK now I get it - TY Bill
The benefits of cheap labor, I guess...
Cheers
Ecke
2010/5/21 William Robb war...@gmail.com:
- Original Message - From: eckinator
Subject: Re: Returning defective goods : was RE: Leica M9
Bill can you explain this, please - I just don't seem to catch your
2010/5/22 Steven Desjardins drd1...@gmail.com:
The way people do business reflects their own perception of the way
they are treated. If you think that companies will do anything they
can to cheat you, they you will reply in kind. This is especially
true if they believe that big companies are
Crashed my IE8 several times, I gave up in the end
2010/5/22 William Robb war...@gmail.com:
- Original Message - From: Larry Colen
Subject: OT pacman on google
go to http://www.google.com/
hit insert coin and then you can play the game by clicking your mouse on
where you want
2010/5/22 Bob W p...@web-options.com:
[...]
I put on a helmet when it rains. It keeps the hood of my
rain jacket on my head.
I have a reflective GoreTex helmet cover, keeps rain and wind out and
surface friction is enough to hold a Petzl TacTikka XP LED headlamp
which can be used as both a
Look nice but I think they kill you in the summer heat?
2010/5/22 Bertil Holmberg bertilholmb...@telia.com:
I just purchesed a Nutcase helmet, the most fun ones that you can get - I
think.
http://www.nutcasehelmets.com/Pages/index.aspx
I had to pay double the US price at
Happy birthday, Tim! =)
Cheers
Ecke
2010/5/21 Christine Aguila cagu...@earthlink.net:
That's nice, Tim. Hope you had a nice birthday! Cheers, Christine
- Original Message - From: Tim Øsleby maritim...@gmail.com
To: Pentax-Discuss Mail List pdml@pdml.net
Sent: Saturday, May 15,
Haha ... you invoked Godwin on purpose - does that even count?
2010/5/22 Bob W p...@web-options.com:
[...]
So one should always be vigilant.
How does a helmet hinder such vigilance?
It's nice to have the helmet as a final layer of protection
if more pro-active prevention isn't enough. Not
positively creamy. me likee =)
2010/5/22 Toine to...@repiuk.nl:
Another shot with the Lensbaby:
http://www.repiuk.nl/index.php/blog-mainmenu-97/134-more-bokeh
Toine
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2010/5/23 Tom C caka...@gmail.com:
Do they have the right to know the full story?
If a mfr. were to make, and a retailer to sell, a shoddy product, do
they let me in on it? Or do they hope people buy it and are then
stuck with it, and too busy or too chicken shit to raise a stink? And
even
2010/5/22 Larry Colen l...@red4est.com:
Thanks, Jack and Ecke.
The 18-250 was at 250. We had gotten a stuffed churro on the pier, which
really wasn't very good. I was sitting on the ground, holding little bits of
it in one hand, shooting with the other. At least until one of the gulls saw
2010/5/23 William Robb war...@gmail.com:
I for one am not on one, I just happen to think two wrongs don't make
a right.
But two Wrights can make an airplane.
And an airplane can make three lefts, some even four. Things
inevitably come full circle.
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No she's got it right. She's got balls to ride a racing bike across
what looks like a dance floor at high speed so she needs to protect
them.
2010/5/23 Bob W p...@web-options.com:
This woman's got it wrong then - she's wearing one of those on her head:
2010/5/23 Bob W p...@web-options.com:
I had a similar problem with my breaksfast and a troupe of colobus monkeys
in Ethiopia once.
Same in Northwestern Malaysia - don't go near them with a plastic
carrier bag or worse, food in your hands... dunno what kind of monkeys
they were though - I can
2010/5/22 Bob W p...@web-options.com:
Well, not really France though... :o) But another place I would very much
like to visit some day.
Well worth the trip and absolutely do not miss out on the Osteria U
Mulinu at Feliceto; best reached from Calvi. Reservation recommended,
dinner starts at 8,
2010/5/23 mike wilson m.9.wil...@ntlworld.com:
I for one am not on one, I just happen to think two wrongs don't make
a right.
But two Wrights can make an airplane.
Can two rites make a ceremony?
Dunno. Can two wrights make a play?
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Mark, did you ask everyone directly?
Cheers
Ecke
2010/5/22 Tom C caka...@gmail.com:
Mark,
How's it looking regarding receipts for all the copies brought to the
exhibit? I know some one suggested the idea that if you end up short,
that participants could voluntarily contribute so you don't
First of all my profound thanks to all the team who put the book
together, everyone who donated their autographed and Chris Mitchell
who took upon himself to get the book signed and sent to me. I love
you all =)
I am still pretty much overwhelmed by the quality of many of the
images, I'll sit down
It's a dog's life... ROFL brilliant catch... what were they thinking?
Thanks for sharing
Ecke
2010/5/23 P. J. Alling webstertwenty...@gmail.com:
It shouldn't happen to a dog.
http://dl.dropbox.com/u/1604247/PESO/PESO%20--%20dignity.html
Equipment: Pentax K20D w/smc Pentax FA 28-200 f3.8~5.6
2010/5/23 Cotty cotty...@mac.com:
Two Wongs can make a chop suey.
And two fangs can take a bite.
In Denmark they can buy Dong Energy.
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2010/5/23 eckinator eckina...@gmail.com:
2010/5/23 Cotty cotty...@mac.com:
Two Wongs can make a chop suey.
And two fangs can take a bite.
In Denmark they can buy Dong Energy.
I've been thinking... two bongs could fly my kite but it only takes
two puns to make me write but the real question
2010/5/24 Boris Liberman bori...@gmail.com:
This list has too many/much pun_dits...
Well, two punishments can fit one crime...
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2010/5/25 William Robb war...@gmail.com:
So, I challenge the list to do the right thing and help out with this.
Me too. I'll gladly cough up my 1/list-th any time I am called upon.
Cheers
Ecke
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2010/5/25 Ken Waller kwal...@peoplepc.com:
I for one am not on one, I just happen to think two wrongs don't make
a right.
But two Wrights can make an airplane.
Can two rites make a ceremony?
Dunno. Can two wrights make a play?
Can three wrights make a left?
If two lights make a
Way cool Frank, thanks for sharing =)
2010/5/25 frank theriault knarftheria...@gmail.com:
Spotted yesterday waiting for a bus:
http://knarfinthecity.blogspot.com/2010/05/dads-tunes.html
Hope you enjoy. Comments welcome.
cheers,
frank
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2010/5/25 Larry Colen l...@red4est.com:
I sent this off a while ago, but it seems to have gotten eaten by the email
monster. Anyways, I also found reference to a place called ICT:
http://www.ictcamera.com/About/about.html
Does anybody know them?
No but it has Manfred vrom ze Motherland =)
Could be an idea to use those for my lens bracelet etc project - do
you have that losting for me please?
Cheers
Ecke
2010/5/25 Charles Robinson charl...@visi.com:
There is a guy on our local Craigslist selling a whole MESS of lenses for
$225, including this one:
OK I am calling dibs on this one.
Cheers
Ecke
2010/5/25 P. J. Alling webstertwenty...@gmail.com:
You're right, that lens is worth a hell of a lot more, if it isn't trashed.
On 5/25/2010 10:32 AM, Charles Robinson wrote:
There is a guy on our local Craigslist selling a whole MESS of lenses
Gone. Not just since now, too =(
2010/5/25 eckinator eckina...@gmail.com:
OK I am calling dibs on this one.
Cheers
Ecke
2010/5/25 P. J. Alling webstertwenty...@gmail.com:
You're right, that lens is worth a hell of a lot more, if it isn't trashed.
On 5/25/2010 10:32 AM, Charles Robinson
Get yours here =)
http://www.royal-plus.de/dna/shopE.html
2010/5/25 AlunFoto alunf...@gmail.com:
Today is International Towel day.
http://www.alunfoto.no/galleri/displayimage.php?pos=-268
Jostein
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2010/5/25 AlunFoto alunf...@gmail.com:
The pic is of my towel. Got it for my 42nd birthday, even. :-)
Don't even remind me. 40 is knocking on my front door real hard. Only
2 weeks to go and I am already starting to feel youth leaving my
body...
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OK I hear you all... I'll make my damn best of it
2010/5/26 Bob W p...@web-options.com:
Don't even remind me. 40 is knocking on my front door real hard. Only
2 weeks to go and I am already starting to feel youth leaving
my body...
it good be worse - you could be feeling Yootha leaving your
Bless the Vikings!
2010/5/25 P. J. Alling webstertwenty...@gmail.com:
She's fully equipped
http://dl.dropbox.com/u/1604247/PESO/PESO%20--%20%20cashorcredit.html
Equipment: Pentax K20D w/smc Pentax FA 28-200mm f3.8~5.6
As usual comments are welcome but may be totally ignored.
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2010/5/26 Rob Studdert distudio.p...@gmail.com:
How ridiculous that these obviously abuse prone return policies appear
to have spawned a counter-return industry.
Really one of the issues of our time - for everything there is someone
out there who is not above making money from it...
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same here, good luck larry!
2010/5/27 Sasha Sobol sa...@asobol.com:
Best wishes Larry.
--Sasha
On Wed, May 26, 2010 at 2:36 PM, David J Brooks pentko...@gmail.com wrote:
;-(
Dave
On Tue, May 25, 2010 at 11:03 PM, Larry Colen l...@red4est.com wrote:
Short form: The company didn't get
2010/5/13 Ken Waller kwal...@peoplepc.com:
Wow! I leica.
'Sony a wave.
Rolleing onto shore.
Scary, makes me want my mamiya.
I canon take this any more
You've had a nikon the head boy.
What's your point, exa ctly?
His contax are worth knowing.
Sigma Freud would have a field
2010/5/27 Larry Colen l...@red4est.com:
Wow! I leica.
'Sony a wave.
Rolleing onto shore.
Scary, makes me want my mamiya.
I canon take this any more
You've had a nikon the head boy.
What's your point, exa ctly?
His contax are worth knowing.
Sigma Freud would have a field
2010/5/27 Bob W p...@web-options.com:
another important contribution to the ongoing debate
Ah, I see you have the machine that goes PING!
Cheers
Ecke
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Impressive. You captured the concentration quite well indeed =)
Thanks for sharing
Ecke
2010/5/27 frank theriault knarftheria...@gmail.com:
Nina Lorcini is a Canadian mezzosoprano currently based in New York.
She attended the CD release of an opera composed by a friend of mine.
I got a few
2010/5/27 paul stenquist pnstenqu...@comcast.net:
If the clients are friends and you ask for that kind of money, they will
cease to be friends. If they're really good friends, I shoot their party for
grins. If they're somewhat distant friends, I charge them a few hundred
bucks. If I have
2010/5/27 Rob Studdert distudio.p...@gmail.com:
On 27/05/2010, Doug Brewer d...@alphoto.com wrote:
weird mantras you're teaching that kid
Firebrigade om
We're all different in our own special ways.
;-)
Yes and I am happy to see some are more different than others =)
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has to be a white iSub - yellow is so 60s...
2010/5/27 AlunFoto alunf...@gmail.com:
2010/5/27 Bob W p...@web-options.com:
another important contribution to the ongoing debate
Congrats on your new submarine, Bob.
Which colour?
Jostein
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2010/5/22 Tom C caka...@gmail.com:
Yeah we missed you.
Important things on the list:
1. Almost no one on the list will ever buy a Leica ever ever again, if
not never.
2. One of our members is apparently a dishonest, deceptive, lying
bastard because he returned a camera that had a drink
2010/5/27 paul stenquist pnstenqu...@comcast.net:
Friends are friends. In general, it's best not to do business with them. If
one must do so, it's best not to take profit. But that's just my opinion,
offered free of charge:-).
Very much agreed. The only kind I do business with are those
OK you didn't make that clear it seems. Start with a kidney, work your
way down to an arm and a leg and settle for 10 grand plus post
processing =) Show them your Fong Dong ]=)
2010/5/27 Larry Colen l...@red4est.com:
On May 27, 2010, at 7:53 AM, Paul Sorenson wrote:
e) Larry IS out of work
could cause blindness they tried that one on us before and it didn't
do the trick either... does it grow hair on your palms, too? =)
2010/5/27 Daniel J. Matyola danmaty...@gmail.com:
Those English kids are just crazy:
http://www.foxnews.com/story/0,2933,593570,00.html
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2010/5/27 Jens p...@planfoto.dk:
Hello guys
Have anyone actually seen reviews on the new Pentax 645D?
I wnat to buy it, but it's a little steep for me at the moment - the price of
a rather nice, used car, perhaps 5 yars old, where I live :-(
Sounds like you can wait for the reviews while you
2010/5/27 Bob W p...@web-options.com:
2010/5/27 Bob W p...@web-options.com:
another important contribution to the ongoing debate
Congrats on your new submarine, Bob.
Which colour?
stealth
what is the pigment made from?
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What Paul said. Plus the Cannelloni. On a grand scale the rest is noise.
Ecke
2010/5/27 P N Stenquist pnstenqu...@comcast.net:
Congratulations on the 26 years, A major achievement.
Paul
On May 27, 2010, at 3:49 PM, William Robb wrote:
Damned Microsoft put put Lookout Express out to
2010/5/27 Daniel J. Matyola danmaty...@gmail.com:
Congratulations on your 26th anniversary. You must have a very
patient and forgiving wife.
On Saturday we will celebrate our 45th anniversary. That fulfills the
requirements for my wife to be canonized.
At what anniversary did/will she get
2010/5/27 Bob W p...@web-options.com:
another important contribution to the ongoing debate
Congrats on your new submarine, Bob.
Which colour?
stealth
what is the pigment made from?
it's a pigment of my imagination
cheeky... better cover that up with a pig leaf...
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oh ok so she's been canonized already =)
2010/5/27 Daniel J. Matyola danmaty...@gmail.com:
Well, she had a nikon, but it crapped out, and now she has a Canon PS.
Dan
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2010/5/27 Daniel J. Matyola danmaty...@gmail.com
2010/5/28 Ken Waller kwal...@peoplepc.com:
OK you didn't make that clear it seems. Start with a kidney, work your
way down to an arm and a leg and settle for 10 grand plus post
processing =) Show them your Fong Dong ]=)
Sounds fair to me, but I would advise against pulling out the Fong Dong
2010/5/28 Ken Waller kwal...@peoplepc.com:
Congratulations on your 26th anniversary. You must have a very
patient and forgiving wife.
On Saturday we will celebrate our 45th anniversary. That fulfills the
requirements for my wife to be canonized.
At what anniversary did/will she get
not moi
2010/5/28 Ann Sanfedele ann...@nyc.rr.com:
about the eyeball drinking thing...
anyone else?
I got over 15 -
ann
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sweet =) I've yet to get one
Cheers
Ecke
2010/5/28 David Parsons parsons.da...@gmail.com:
http://www.flickr.com/photos/alohadave/sets/72157624026093043/
Last night we had some pretty intense weather with the heat and very
fast moving storms that passed through.
I got my very first lightning
2010/5/28 Ken Waller kwal...@peoplepc.com:
OK you didn't make that clear it seems. Start with a kidney, work your
way down to an arm and a leg and settle for 10 grand plus post
processing =) Show them your Fong Dong ]=)
Sounds fair to me, but I would advise against pulling out the Fong Dong
2010/5/28 Ken Waller kwal...@peoplepc.com:
OK you didn't make that clear it seems. Start with a kidney, work
your
way down to an arm and a leg and settle for 10 grand plus post
processing =) Show them your Fong Dong ]=)
Sounds fair to me, but I would advise against pulling out the Fong
see listing 200474228155 expiring tomorrow (not mine)
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Oh yeah, it is M39 to Pentax, not Leica-R
Cheers
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2010/5/28 eckinator eckina...@gmail.com:
see listing 200474228155 expiring tomorrow (not mine)
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I can handle bidding and shipment if anyone wants me to
2010/5/28 P. J. Alling webstertwenty...@gmail.com:
Not available on Ebay US so I wouldn't really care anyway.
On 5/28/2010 8:39 AM, eckinator wrote:
Oh yeah, it is M39 to Pentax, not Leica-R
Cheers
Ecke
2010/5/28 eckinatoreckina
2010/5/29 Larry Colen l...@red4est.com:
It's a good article, but let's take a look at it. Let's assume that we could
develop a system that would prevent every one of these deaths, and that it
could be implemented for $10 per car. Now let's say that there are 30
million cars sold in the
2010/5/28 drd1...@gmail.com:
Mark looks so learned, like one of those wizard dudes in LOTR.
Positively an alpha male...
Y'all will excuse me now while I go mail fifty more copies.
Mark!
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2010/5/30 Luiz Felipe luiz.fel...@techmit.com.br:
Good point, might be an alternative to factory-issued protective devices. I
still think the absent minded may forget to keep d...@mnd batteries fresh,
tho. Manage to build such with some kind of movement- charging device and
it'll be almost
2010/5/30 Godfrey DiGiorgi gdigio...@gmail.com:
But do they have breech locks? ;-)
You mean the little open/close thingy for the SD card slot?
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uhm wouldn't the campaign to reach and penetrate them cost MORE?
2010/5/30 Bob Sullivan rf.sulli...@gmail.com:
5.5 to 6 million cars are sold in the US per quarter.
Call it 23 million cars per year, 2010.
At $10-$100 per new car, that's a extra $230,000,000 to $2,300,000,000
per year cost
2010/5/30 P. J. Alling webstertwenty...@gmail.com:
Canon FD lenses, (pre EOS) used a breach lock system to mount their
lenses, but it's not funny if you have to explain the joke.
However it got even more bizarre when they modified the breach lock system
to /look/ like a bayonet lens mount
Looks to me in some parts like a cultural issue again - some countries
have higher thresholds for acceptable legislative interference, others
believe in paternalism as part of a healthy society. Maybe it also
depends on how much of a flying fuck the government gives about the
voters' opinion once
2010/5/30 Bob W p...@web-options.com:
surely in this day and age it's not beyond the wit of man to find some way
of extending the human incubation period by a few months so children are
that much older when they're born?
Following birth they should be placed in hermetically sealed incubators
2010/5/30 Bob W p...@web-options.com:
I don't believe buckling up should be mandatory, any more than wearing
cycling helmets should be mandatory. I also think it should be legal for
adults to use class A drugs if they want to. Adults are responsible for
their own safety; parents and relatives
Great set, really enjoying it. First flip-through, this pic caught me
thinking, Amy Winehouse stole a female officer's clothes and busted
out of jail?
http://www.flickr.com/photos/alohadave/4651978296/in/set-72157624039413171/
Thanks for sharing
Ecke
2010/5/30 David Parsons
2010/5/31 Rick Womer rwomer1...@yahoo.com:
It stopped down to the aperture you selected with the thumbwheel.
That is of course assuming you had your aperture simulator set to stun...
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2010/5/31 Larry Colen l...@red4est.com:
I believe that hospitals call it triage.
field hospitals, yes. the only war this issue is possibly facing is a
flame war. doug, can you implement post/thread triage on the list?
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2010/5/31 Bob W p...@web-options.com:
come off it, Boris. If the parents don't make those decisions, who does? Are
you seriously telling me that you would grant to someone else the right to
take minute-by-minute decisions about your children? Who? Your local
catholic priest? The mayor of your
2010/5/31 Boris Liberman bori...@gmail.com:
Naturally, under these conditions the only thing that can happen if we
continue this talk is more grinding and eventual halt at a dead end.
Keep grinding guys but don't forget the bumping =)
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2010/5/31 P N Stenquist pnstenqu...@comcast.net:
Wrong. The issue will face a war of words in Washington. In fact, it has
already begun.
Great =) ...easily said from my side of the pond...
Doug doesn't censor the list. Members are free to ignore a thread if they so
choose.
I know. I was
2010/5/31 William Robb war...@gmail.com:
If a person wants to commit infanticide on their spawn, that's all well and
good.
Mark!
Even out of context, a point well made.
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2010/5/31 William Robb war...@gmail.com:
So, you say, injecting heroin (provided it is injected) is fine as long
as it is done behind doors alone? Isn't it a bit shallow perspective?
Actually Boris, if, as a society we said yes, it is OK, and then treated the
fallout as a public health issue
2010/5/31 Bob W p...@web-options.com:
[...]
I know. I was kidding. Triage suggested it. And the greater benefit
for the greater number is a good guiding principle. But some
applications of it are ugly.
it's a terrible guiding principle - it inevitably leads to totalitarianism.
Democracy
2010/5/31 William Robb war...@gmail.com:
I find it galling enough that as a non parent my tax dollars are being spent
on subsidized day care or school taxes.
Pondering whether to take a deep breath and shut my trap or let you
have a piece of my mind here...
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2010/6/1 Theodore Beilby tbei...@sbcglobal.net:
still broke for me!
I'm browsing and it won't come up!
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