CO-MANAGER MESSAGE Re: [PEIRCE-L] [Fwd: [biosemiotics:6757] A connection among mathematics, glottometrics and genomics]

2014-09-12 Thread Benjamin Udell
Sungchul, You do this very often - sending a message without an intended attachment, then re-sending it with the attachment. Please stop doing that and instead check each time that you have included the attachment that you intended for the message. Ben Udell as co-manager of peirce-l On 9/1

[PEIRCE-L] Re: Consequences Of Triadic Relation Irreducibility

2014-09-12 Thread Jon Awbrey
Peircers, From time to time I come to the realization that there are ways of reading Peirce that make no sense to me. When I stop to think about the potential sources of that evident divergence from common sense, the first thing that comes to mind is the fact that people come to reading Peirc

Re: [PEIRCE-L] Physics & Semiosis

2014-09-12 Thread Sungchul Ji
Clark wrote: "Material science for instance is part of physics and has examples more in line with that." I did not get he point you are trying to get across. Can you elaborate on it ? Thanks. Sung > On Sep 11, 2014, at 6:41 PM, Sungchul Ji wrote: >> >> However, I claim that >> >> “Unlike D

Re: [PEIRCE-L] Physics & Semiosis

2014-09-12 Thread Sungchul Ji
Clark wrote in response to my statement (091114-1) below that "DNA stands for (phenotypes of living cells) for people." (091214-1) Which I agree with. But the point Clark seems to be missing is the fact that "DNA stands for phenotypes for living cells as well." (091214-2) The trut

Re: [PEIRCE-L] Physics & Semiosis

2014-09-12 Thread Clark Goble
On Sep 11, 2014, at 6:41 PM, Sungchul Ji wrote: > > However, I claim that > > “Unlike DNA, ‘entropy’ does not have any agent, (091114-4) > other than humans, for which it can act as a sign.” Just to add, while this may be true of foundational physical concepts, we should note that phys

Re: [PEIRCE-L] Physics & Semiosis

2014-09-12 Thread Clark Goble
> On Sep 11, 2014, at 6:41 PM, Sungchul Ji wrote: > > I agree. “Z stands for X for Y” would be an example of smiosis. A > concrete example of this would be > > > “DNA stands for phenotypes for living cells.”(091114-1) If I understand him correctly, I don’t think that would coun

[PEIRCE-L] Re: Knowing how to be • through the eyes of a child

2014-09-12 Thread Jon Awbrey
Thread: SJa: http://permalink.gmane.org/gmane.science.philosophy.peirce/14024 SRC: http://permalink.gmane.org/gmane.science.philosophy.peirce/14025 SJa: http://permalink.gmane.org/gmane.science.philosophy.peirce/14026 JA: http://permalink.gmane.org/gmane.science.philosophy.peirce/14027 HP: http:

[PEIRCE-L] A connection among mathematics, glottometrics and genomics

2014-09-12 Thread Sungchul Ji
(Undistorted Figure 2 is attached.) Hi, One of the common features shared by humans and living cells is that they must and do communicate among themselves. Since language is essential for any communication, it would follow that cells must possess a language as humans do. In 1997, I referred to s

[PEIRCE-L] RE: Knowing how to be • through the eyes of a child

2014-09-12 Thread Stephen Jarosek
Jon, you might be interested in George Mobus' Adaptrode model for neural nets. His work originally caught my attention by virtue of it being based in an associative learning algorithm: http://faculty.washington.edu/gmobus/Adaptrode/Adaptrode1/adaptrode.html A lot of neural-net architectures are b

RE: [PEIRCE-L] Re: Knowing how to be - through t he eyes of a child

2014-09-12 Thread Stephen Jarosek
Incidentally, a further thought regarding Joanna's video clip (having established my own narrative for how these things work, it's easy to forget that these thoughts are unfamiliar to most people): Every organism must contend with infinite possibility. This is strongly evident in the newborn where