Re: [PEIRCE-L] [biosemiotics:6834] Re: Natural Propositions, Chapter 2

2014-09-16 Thread Clark Goble
On Sep 15, 2014, at 9:23 AM, Benjamin Udell bud...@nyc.rr.com mailto:bud...@nyc.rr.com wrote: (He came to regard philosophy as consisting of so-called logical analysis (intellectual autobiography, 1904, Ketner editor), and to regarding such logical analysis as really being phaneroscopic

Re: [PEIRCE-L] [biosemiotics:6834] Re: Natural Propositions, Chapter 2

2014-09-16 Thread Stephen C. Rose
Maybe there is a mental Higgs Boson that no one can quite describe. *@stephencrose https://twitter.com/stephencrose* On Tue, Sep 16, 2014 at 2:27 AM, Clark Goble cl...@lextek.com wrote: On Sep 15, 2014, at 9:23 AM, Benjamin Udell bud...@nyc.rr.com wrote: (He came to regard philosophy as

[PEIRCE-L] Re: Teridentity Triadic Sign Relation

2014-09-16 Thread Jon Awbrey
Thread: GR:http://permalink.gmane.org/gmane.science.philosophy.peirce/14086 JA:http://permalink.gmane.org/gmane.science.philosophy.peirce/14122 GR:http://permalink.gmane.org/gmane.science.philosophy.peirce/14123 JA:http://permalink.gmane.org/gmane.science.philosophy.peirce/14124 Gary All, The

[PEIRCE-L] Re: Teridentity Triadic Sign Relation

2014-09-16 Thread Gary Richmond
Jon, lists, Jon initially wrote: That last sentence was about sign relations. The first part was about [. . .] teridentity. Two different subjects. The reason I pointed to the Pape article is that the trust of its argumentation is that these are *not* two different subjects, or, rather, that

[PEIRCE-L] Re: Teridentity Triadic Sign Relation

2014-09-16 Thread Jon Awbrey
Thread: GR:http://permalink.gmane.org/gmane.science.philosophy.peirce/14086 JA:http://permalink.gmane.org/gmane.science.philosophy.peirce/14122 GR:http://permalink.gmane.org/gmane.science.philosophy.peirce/14123 JA:http://permalink.gmane.org/gmane.science.philosophy.peirce/14124

Re: [PEIRCE-L] [biosemiotics:6834] Re: Natural Propositions, Chapter 2

2014-09-16 Thread Benjamin Udell
Clark, list, In regard to the Peirce quote from 1907 that you provided, it's also pertinent to the discussion of biosemiosis, physiosemiosis, etc., taking place lately here. It was in the 1906 Prolegomena to an Apology for Pragmaticism that he discusses quasi-mind, quasi-utterer,

RE: [PEIRCE-L] Re: [biosemiotics:6834] Re: Natural Propositions, Chapter 2

2014-09-16 Thread Kasser,Jeff
I think that this is a really valuable point, Ben, and I think that an application of it bears very directly on discussions of psychologism and anti-psychologism in Peirce. Despite having opposed psychologism from the outset, Peirce was happy to pursue psychological solutions to some problems

Re: [PEIRCE-L] Re: Teridentity Triadic Sign Relation

2014-09-16 Thread Sungchul Ji
(For undistorted figures, see the attached.) Hi, While preparing for my interdisciplinary lecture on complementarity to first-year students at Rutgers, called a Byrne seminar, the following thoughts occurred to me today that may help apply abstract mathematical concepts to Peirces' triadic

Re: [PEIRCE-L] Re: [biosemiotics:6834] Re: Natural Propositions, Chapter 2

2014-09-16 Thread Benjamin Udell
Jeff K., Jeff D., Gary F., lists, Lists, I should note that Jeff Kasser is familiar with the topic of Peirce and psychologism. He wrote a paper that Joe Ransdell posted some years ago at Arisbe, Peirce's Supposed Psychologism http://www.cspeirce.com/menu/library/aboutcsp/kasser/psychol.htm .

Re: [PEIRCE-L] Re: [biosemiotics:6834] Re: Natural Propositions, Chapter 2

2014-09-16 Thread Dennis Leri
Lists, On page 29, note 22 Frederick cites Gustav Fechner’s Psychophysik. In his experiments with Jastrow, Peirce contributed three things central to the nascent science of Psycho-Physics after Fechner: 1) a better mathematical tool; 2) a recognition of sub-threshold awareness and hence

[PEIRCE-L] Re: [biosemiotics:6858] Re: Natural Propositions, Chapter 2

2014-09-16 Thread Howard Pattee
At 06:51 PM 9/16/2014, Dennis Leri wrote: And, not only do we do that to a degree of accuracy greater than chance but that a methodology predicated upon the Method of Least Squares says it must be the case. Differences that make a difference need not be conscious. HP: Meditate, don't reason.

RE: [PEIRCE-L] Re: [biosemiotics:6834] Re: Natural Propositions, Chapter 2

2014-09-16 Thread Dowling, Walter
Just a small correction: When you say the Method of Least Squares was a better fit than the Bell Curve it should be noted that the method of least squares is the bell curve-that is, the Gaussian distribution. What CSP is distinguishing the method of least squares from is rather the notion that

Re: [PEIRCE-L] [biosemiotics:6834] Re: Natural Propositions, Chapter 2

2014-09-16 Thread Clark Goble
On Sep 16, 2014, at 10:32 AM, Benjamin Udell bud...@nyc.rr.com wrote: Yes, analytic philosophy seems tepid next to Peirce. I hardly know what analytic philosophers mean by 'analysis' or, more importantly, by 'philosophy'. Decades ago I got a similar vagueness from continental