Re: [PEIRCE-L] Re: Super-Order and the Logic of Continuity (was Metaphysics and Nothing (was Peirce's Cosmology))

2016-11-06 Thread Jon Alan Schmidt
Jeff, List: I thought that our objective in this thread was--at least eventually--to determine whether and how Peirce's mathematical and phenomenological discussions in the last RLT lecture might shed light on the subsequent metaphysical discussion (including the blackboard diagram), and

Re: [PEIRCE-L] Re: Super-Order and the Logic of Continuity (was Metaphysics and Nothing (was Peirce's Cosmology))

2016-11-06 Thread Jerry Rhee
Jon, list: Thank you for that. I dare you all to think about this conversation NOT in context of CP 5.189. one two three... C A B... icon index symbol... Firstness Secondness Thirdness... esthetics ethics logic spiritedness desire reason... name definition essence... Father Son Spirit...

Re: [PEIRCE-L] Re: Super-Order and the Logic of Continuity (was Metaphysics and Nothing (was Peirce's Cosmology))

2016-11-06 Thread Jon Alan Schmidt
Jeff, List: At first, I was not sure how helpful CP 6.395&397 could be, since they are from an article published in 1878, 20 years before RLT and 30 years before "A Neglected Argument." Leaving aside that concern, I read through the subsequent text and came to wonder if the "general

Re: [PEIRCE-L] Re: Super-Order and the Logic of Continuity (was Metaphysics and Nothing (was Peirce's Cosmology))

2016-11-06 Thread Jon Alan Schmidt
Just a quick follow-up comment. CSP: Consequently, whether in time or not, the three universes must actually be absolutely necessary results of a state of utter nothingness. We cannot ourselves conceive of such a state of nility; but we can easily conceive that there should be a mind that could

Re: [PEIRCE-L] Re: Super-Order and the Logic of Continuity (was Metaphysics and Nothing (was Peirce's Cosmology))

2016-11-06 Thread Jerry Rhee
Jeffrey, Jon, list: You quoted Peirce saying: "Any proposition whatever concerning the order of Nature must touch more or less upon religion." What a strange statement. Would you accept that if I had said it instead of Peirce? Best, Jerry R On Sun, Nov 6, 2016 at 8:59 AM, Jon Alan Schmidt

Re: [PEIRCE-L] Re: Super-Order and the Logic of Continuity (was Metaphysics and Nothing (was Peirce's Cosmology))

2016-11-06 Thread Jon Alan Schmidt
Jeff, List: I will try to take a closer look at this later. Thanks, Jon Alan Schmidt - Olathe, Kansas, USA Professional Engineer, Amateur Philosopher, Lutheran Layman www.LinkedIn.com/in/JonAlanSchmidt - twitter.com/JonAlanSchmidt On Sun, Nov 6, 2016 at 3:36 AM, Jeffrey Brian Downard <

Re: [PEIRCE-L] Re: Super-Order and the Logic of Continuity (was Metaphysics and Nothing (was Peirce's Cosmology))

2016-11-06 Thread Jon Alan Schmidt
Jeff, List: I guess my point is that the only reason why we can *isolate *relate, correlate, and the relation between them is because there is an underlying order; that is what enables us to *distinguish *these things as individuals at all. I deliberately avoided using the relation of brother as

RE: [PEIRCE-L] Re: Super-Order and the Logic of Continuity (was Metaphysics and Nothing (was Peirce's Cosmology))

2016-11-06 Thread Jeffrey Brian Downard
Jon S, Gary R, List, Given our interest in providing a clearer meaning for the conceptions of order and Super-order, I think that these passages might be helpful. Any proposition whatever concerning the order of Nature must touch more or less upon religion. In our day, belief, even in these