[PEIRCE-L] Genuinely triadic relations, laws and symbols

2019-04-15 Thread Jeffrey Brian Downard
Jon S, List, First, let me point out that I believe a number of arguments were offered in the post. The simplest argument was a mere colligation of separate points. The richer argument, I think, was explanatory in character. Having said that, let me try to comply with your request. Please be

Re: Re: [PEIRCE-L] Peirce Monument

2019-04-15 Thread Jon Alan Schmidt
List: This attachment has a corrected version of the third EG. I also now realize that in light of the transformation rules, the second EG is unsuccessful at capturing how the triadic relation of mediating is *irreducible *to the dyadic relations of determining. Jon S. On Mon, Apr 15, 2019 at 4

Re: Re: [PEIRCE-L] Peirce Monument

2019-04-15 Thread Jon Alan Schmidt
Jeff, List: Please provide specific quotes from "The Logic of Mathematics" (or other writings of Peirce) to support your claim that "any sign that is general in character ... have the nature of genuine triadic relations." If that were the case, then what would be the three correlates of such rela

Re: Re: [PEIRCE-L] Peirce Monument

2019-04-15 Thread Jeffrey Brian Downard
Hello Jon S, List, Does the sign itself constitute a triadic relationship? You say, No. It is the first correlate of a triadic relation, but it is not itself a triadic relation. Let me adopt the other side of the argument and see what points I can marshall in its favor. First, I'd like to po

Re: [PEIRCE-L] Re: Logical Analysis of Signs (was Phaneroscopy and logic)

2019-04-15 Thread Jon Alan Schmidt
Stephen R., List: Do you likewise think that there are no principles of physics, since matter and energy exist prior to any thinking of them? or of chemistry, since elements and compounds exist prior to any thinking of them? or of biology, since plants and animals exist prior to any thinking of

Re: [PEIRCE-L] Re: Logical Analysis of Signs (was Phaneroscopy and logic)

2019-04-15 Thread Stephen Curtiss Rose
I think there are no semiotic principles since signs exist prior to any thinking of them and are only ours second hand as it were. They are the objective/subjective (i.e. triadic) receptions of consciousness. They become tangible to us according to the process we engage in to understand them. There

Re: [PEIRCE-L] Peirce admitted that his terminology of 1906 was bad.

2019-04-15 Thread John F Sowa
Gary F and Jon AS, GF I’ve just been on a wild goose chase trying to check out Peirce’s cryptic remarks about his choice of “blot” in L 376. I checked Cora's etymological dictionaries. The one that traces Greek roots to Indo-European doesn't mention φλἀω. Another says that φλἀω is rare in At