Re: [PEIRCE-L] Re: Peirce and the Big Bang

2019-08-23 Thread Jon Alan Schmidt
Gary F., List: Thank you for this helpful clarification. We seem to agree that Peirce's cosmology and contemporary Big Bang cosmology rest on different metaphysical assumptions, which is what I have been trying to emphasize all along. I also agree with you that Peirce's cosmology cannot be reduc

Re: [PEIRCE-L] Re: Peirce and the Big Bang

2019-08-23 Thread Jerry LR Chandler
> On Aug 22, 2019, at 11:04 PM, John F Sowa wrote: > > On 8/21/2019 1:18 PM, Jon Alan Schmidt wrote: >> I suggest that [Peirce] could have offered an argument against >> [the Big Bang] -- in fact, against any theory that posits a finite >> age and definite beginning of the universe... > > No.

Re: Re: [PEIRCE-L] Re: Peirce and the Big Bang

2019-08-23 Thread Edwina Taborsky
Jeffrey- thanks for your comments and the article. It certainly describes two different cosmological hypotheses - and - we don't know which is valid! Interesting - that Hawking proposed a cosmology where the universe emerged 'out of nothing'. This seems similar to the outline of Peirce i

Re: [PEIRCE-L] Re: Peirce and the Big Bang

2019-08-23 Thread Jeffrey Brian Downard
Jon S, Gary F, John S, List, Peirce engages in inquiries that fall under the headings "cosmological metaphysics" and "cosmological physics." (see, for example, CP 6.213, As we know, he is drawing on a number of resources including mathematics, phenomenology and semiotics for the sake of direc

RE: [PEIRCE-L] Re: Peirce and the Big Bang

2019-08-23 Thread gnox
Jon, All theories in physics, indeed all theories in “special sciences,” rest on metaphysical assumptions; that’s what makes them special sciences. Peirce’s cosmology is not a special science, certainly not a physical science. According to Peirce’s metaphysics, based on logical principles (as h

Re: [PEIRCE-L] Re: Peirce and the Big Bang

2019-08-23 Thread Jon Alan Schmidt
Gary F., List: As I have already stated, I do not see how Peirce's synechistic and hyperbolic cosmology is compatible with the hypothesis of a singularity (discontinuity) at the beginning of the universe, especially since he affirmed more than once that time began "infinitely long ago" as whatever

RE: [PEIRCE-L] Re: Peirce and the Big Bang

2019-08-23 Thread gnox
Jon, John, List, I don’t see how Peirce’s cosmology, which is essentially metaphysical (i.e. based on logical principles), has any bearing on the Big Bang theory, which is strictly a physical hypothesis testable only by means of physical observations. I suppose Peirce as physicist would have ha

Re: [PEIRCE-L] Re: Peirce and the Big Bang

2019-08-23 Thread Jon Alan Schmidt
John, List: JFS: An amazing event occurred around 13.8 billion years ago. Again, that estimated time frame relies on the assumption that the laws of nature have remained essentially unchanged for the entire duration--a presupposition that Peirce rejected in favor of "thorough-going evolutionism