Gary, Gary, List
Of course I agree, that Peirce´s own explanation and your interpretation are much better than my attempt. Still though I feel a little unwell about the token-type relation between "the phaneron" and "a phaneron": Usually the type is a class between other classes on the same lev
Gary F, List,
The email you just posted came through fine.
I recall JAS also having to reverse the white-text thing in one of your
posts. What I did to correct it was to copy your white (invisible text) to
a fresh email draft and then use the text/background function on gmail to
have the text reg
Thanks for fixing that up, Gary. I’m still baffled by this white-text thing,
because it never comes back to me from the list that way, and in this case the
quotes were not copied from TS but from another file that is not formatted
white-on-black. Strange. I hope this post doesn’t come out revers
Gary f, List,
I like your answers better too, Gary, much better; but your quoted text
arrived on the List as blank spaces, likely because of your reverse type
color (white on black) in your book, *Turning Sings*. Here's the text as I
darkened it.
Cheers,
Not-G-man
-- Forwarded message
Gary F.
I advise you to look at the starting point of this exchange. I don't object to
transferring my message to another heading but I don't therewith give you the
right to use that transfer to discard my response as not to the point. If you
hadn't made the transfer you wouldn't have a point w
Auke, I’m not suggesting anything different from what Peirce said about
phaneroscopy. The trouble is that in order to grasp what it is, you have to
take Peirce at his word rather than translating his ideas into habitual
categories such as “Cartesian thought experiment,” “absolute doubt” and “the
Gary F.
Are you suggesting that doing phaneroscopy is like doing a cartesian thought
experiment? Eliminating everything, and building things up from absolute doubt,
or, in your case, the unreal?
Auke
> Op 19 juni 2021 om 14:33 schreef g...@gnusystems.ca:
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> AVB: I think I never had yo
Helmut, that’s a good question, but I don’t much care for any of your answers.
Here’s mine:
In CP 1.286-7 (which has been quoted before in this thread), Peirce speaks of
phaneroscopy as a science which, being public like any other science, depends
on multiple observations. He therefore refers t
AVB: I think I never had you. So how could I lose you?
GF: I guess that’s right! I naively trusted that your question related to the
nature of phaneroscopy as Peirce defines it, and not to some metaphysical issue
which does not exist for phaneroscopy.
Gary f.
From: Auke van Breemen
John, everything you say here was taken for granted in my post (and is one
of the central ideas in my book): that most communication has to rely on
trusting ones dialogue partner to be speaking from experience. Aukes
question was about the word veracity in comparison with honesty and other
terms
Helmut,
I take this 1905 quote to mean that although the contents of the pheneron do
not always entertain a representative relation with an object (real thing,
sic), we must accept the reality of the pheneron. In other words the reality of
the phaneron does not depend on its representative rela
List
Here again the maybe most frequently used quote about "phaneron", from the Commens Dictionary:
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1905 | Adirondack Summer School Lectures | CP 1.284
Phaneroscopy is the description of the phaneron; and by the phaneron I mean the collective total of all that is in any way or in any sen
John,
Good points. You might be interested in Ramchandran and Hirstein's : Three laws
of Qualia.
https://www.researchgate.net/publication/233684568_Three_laws_of_qualia_What_neurology_tells_us_about_the_biological_functions_of_consciousness
Auke
> Op 19 juni 2021 om 5:36 schreef "John F. Sow
I think I never had you. So how could I lose you?
Auke
> Op 18 juni 2021 om 22:30 schreef g...@gnusystems.ca:
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> Auke, I’m afraid you lost me there. I have no idea what you would mean by
> stating that reality is “an object of which phaneroscopy professes to deliver
> its immediate ob
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