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> On Oct 6, 2021, at 4:38 PM, Jon Awbrey wrote:
>
> I can't recall a single instance of anyone ever
> changing their opinion about anything of any significance.
Interesting view.
I feel several regular contributors have substantially matured in the past 20
odd years that I have
Gary R,
I agree that those suggestions are helpful:
GR: [Margaretha's] ideas and suggestive metaphors about how List
discussion might be improved -- along with the suggestions by John Sowa and
Gary Furhman which Jon Alan Schmidt just quoted -- if taken up in the
spirit of
Jon A, Margaretha, List,
Jon, you described the workings of what you termed the "Immune System
Metaphor (ISM)" as
people just naturally try[ing] to preserve a state of intellectual
homeostasis, reacting to foreign ideas as psychological antigens and
generating antibodies to combat them. . .
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Dear Margaretha, welcome and thanks for the thought-food ...
After twenty plus years observing/participating in debates/discussions
on the internet and web I can't recall a single instance of anyone ever
changing their opinion about anything of any significance. I'm guessing
there had to be a
Cf: C.S. Peirce • Algebra of Logic ∫ Philosophy of Notation • 1
https://inquiryintoinquiry.com/2021/10/06/c-s-peirce-algebra-of-logic-%e2%88%ab-philosophy-of-notation-1/
All,
There's a few passages from Peirce I will need as background for the
inquiry I'm making into the iconic, indexical, and
Bernard:
> On Aug 27, 2021, at 5:33 PM, Bernard Morand wrote:
>
> It is a good illustration of my feeling about the bad quality level of the
> discussions on Peirce-l.
My feelings are fully parallel with yours.
Your articulative description of the styles of communication denotes the
Margaretha, List,
Welcome to active participation on the List. What a wonderful introductory
post! I hope your questions as to "whether Peirce had a unique theory of
metaphor" and what that might be are discussed here. And I might remark
that I too have a keen interest in what you referred to as
Dear Margaretha, JAS, Edwina, list,
Why pay
deliberate and careful attention to
- argument as war
- argument as a tennis tournament
- argument as constructing a cathedral
- argument as dance
- argument as repairing a ship in the middle of the sea
- argument as computer programming
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don't think these suggestions - of not using 'you' [or a personal
name or synonym] or 'not taking offense' will deal with the problems
of the List.
I still think that it's a tribal attitude, where some posters
Hi all.
Yes, I believe it can be fixed. It is a manner of deliberate and careful
attention to the metaphors one uses while arguing, Lakoff & Johnson's
*Metaphors
We Live By *opened my eyes to the choices we have on *how *to argue:
- argument as war
- argument as a tennis tournament
- argument as
Jerry C., List:
JLRC: What practical steps are necessary to re-enliven our community and
our communications?
John Sowa and Gary Fuhrman each offered advice a few years ago that I have
generally tried to follow in my own List participation, although I have not
always been successful.
JFS: In
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}Jerry - yes, we know what the problem is. The question is:
1] How do we fix it? And even..
2] Can it be fixed?
My answer to 2 is: No. Because we can't deal with 1.
Edwina
On Wed
Dear Edwina, Jerry, Bernard, list,
Why so pessimistic?
I mean, we at least profess a dogmatic view that Peirce was a great
philosopher,
and *as* such, we would at least follow his method of mediation, *amirite*?
.. because ‘spring to action’ and all that..
So then, what does one do, *as*
I think it is very difficult to change this list. It can be
difficult to post, since one is so frequently met with, not a
discussion, but authoritative assertions of 'No, Peirce did not
say/mean...that'...
One doesn't find words like: "In my understanding' or 'in my view'.
Or
Thanks Jerry for this reply and support.
Unfortunately I have no complete answer to your pertinent question:
"What practical steps are necessary to re-enliven our community and our
communications? "
Perhaps some listers actually silent have good ideas about that. They
ought to be encouraged
Jon Alan, List
This response is another example of what I mean by "characteristic"
inability to produce a contrary argument. The corollary is a flight into
childish denials: no, no, no ... with always Nathan Houser used as an
authority figure of rescue, although I have shown that there is :
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