Re: [PEIRCE-L] Interpretants, Sign Classification, and 3ns (was Who, What, When, Where, How, and Why)

2024-02-15 Thread John F Sowa
Jon, I completely agree with the following paragraph: JAS> Put another way, a who or what question is often a rheme, such that the answer fills in the blank to complete the proposition. "___ retrieved the book" becomes "My dog retrieved the book." "The man gave his wife ___" becomes "The man

Re: [PEIRCE-L] Interpretants, Sign Classification, and 3ns (was Who, What, When, Where, How, and Why)

2024-02-15 Thread Jon Alan Schmidt
John, List: At the risk of belaboring the point, I will take one more stab at showing why I think that Peirce would *not *have agreed with distinguishing 1ns, 2ns, and 3ns by aligning them with the answers to who/what/when/where, how, and why questions as (allegedly) monadic, dyadic, and triadic.

Re: [PEIRCE-L] Interpretants, Sign Classification, and 3ns (was Who, What, When, Where, How, and Why)

2024-02-15 Thread John F Sowa
I have to shovel snow right now, but I'll briefly explain the two sentences. JAS> JAS: How did the woman obtain the brooch? Her husband gave it to her. JFS: The verb 'give' is triadic. It implies a dyadic physical transfer (answer to How) plus the reason why: a gift includes the reason why the tr

RE: [PEIRCE-L] Interpretants, Sign Classification, and 3ns (was Who, What, When, Where, How, and Why)

2024-02-15 Thread John F Sowa
Jerry, Jon, List, Helmut had an excellent suggestion: Every why-question can be answered with a because-answer. Therefore, every instance of Thirdness can be explained in sentence that contains the word 'because'. See my comments below and Helmut's original note below that. If you find my or

Re: [PEIRCE-L] Interpretants, Sign Classification, and 3ns (was Who, What, When, Where, How, and Why)

2024-02-15 Thread Jon Alan Schmidt
Helmut, List: Peirce's three universal categories (1ns/2ns/3ns) are discovered in the primal positive science of phaneroscopy (quality/reaction/mediation) and diagrammatized in the hypothetical science of mathematics (monadic/dyadic/triadic relations). I do not know whether anyone has posted a ma

RE: [PEIRCE-L] Interpretants, Sign Classification, and 3ns (was Who, What, When, Where, How, and Why)

2024-02-15 Thread John F Sowa
Helmut, Thanks for mentioning the word 'because'. That's another way to explain the 3-way connection that answers a why-question, In general, every instance of thirdness that relates (A B C) can be explained by a sentence of the form "A is related to B because C."But some linguistic tran

Re: [PEIRCE-L] Interpretants, Sign Classification, and 3ns (was Who, What, When, Where, How, and Why)

2024-02-15 Thread Jerry LR Chandler
List, Jon > On Feb 14, 2024, at 12:56 PM, Jon Alan Schmidt > wrote: > > There are indeed six classes of signs according to their dyadic relations > with their two external interpretants (immediate is internal), but they have > nothing to do with "the six basic question words.” Thanks for poi

Re: [PEIRCE-L] Interpretants, Sign Classification, and 3ns (was Who, What, When, Where, How, and Why)

2024-02-15 Thread Jon Alan Schmidt
John, List: It seems that we both made mistakes when addressing the e-mails reproduced below. I apologize for sending mine to the List, it was intended for only Gary as its moderator. Because of our unfortunate history of contentious interactions, I often use him as a sounding board whenever I con

Aw: [PEIRCE-L] Interpretants, Sign Classification, and 3ns (was Who, What, When, Where, How, and Why)

2024-02-15 Thread Helmut Raulien
    Supplement: Ok, I can access Commens Dictionary again!   John, List,   The answer to "why", "because" always needs two premisses, with itself being the third. So a thirdness is the answer to "why". Firstness can just say "I". Secondness is a second following a first, and so can say "I am

Aw: [PEIRCE-L] Interpretants, Sign Classification, and 3ns (was Who, What, When, Where, How, and Why)

2024-02-15 Thread Helmut Raulien
John, List,   The answer to "why", "because" always needs two premisses, with itself being the third. So a thirdness is the answer to "why". Firstness can just say "I". Secondness is a second following a first, and so can say "I am". Obviously, just by having a first for predecessor, not because

Re: [PEIRCE-L] Interpretants, Sign Classification, and 3ns (was Who, What, When, Where, How, and Why)

2024-02-15 Thread John F Sowa
Jon, List, Thank you for noting that I had intended to push the SEND ALL button for my previous note (copied at the end). But I stand by my claim that every example of Thirdness can be interpreted as an answer to a question that begins with the word "Why". I agree with your point that every si

Aw: [PEIRCE-L] Entropy and the Universal Categories (was Re: The Proper Way in Logic)

2024-02-15 Thread Helmut Raulien
Evgenii, List,   The reason for the bacterium is its need. Its individual need is contained inside its boundary (membrane, skin), but its need is similar with that of all bacteria and other organisms: Nutrition. The latin word is causa finalis. The stone does not have a need, it falls down due to

[PEIRCE-L] CfP - 1st Pan African Logic Congress - Cairo, Egypt, April 28-30, 2024

2024-02-15 Thread jean-yves beziau
1st Pan African Logic Congress The logic of nature & the nature of logic in Africa April 28–30, 2024 - The British University in Egypt, Cairo This congress aims to promote logic in Africa. It is focused on Nature in a double sense. Wildlife is very important in Africa, the flora and fauna are ver

Re: [PEIRCE-L] Entropy and the Universal Categories (was Re: The Proper Way in Logic)

2024-02-15 Thread Evgenii Rudnyi
Am 15.02.2024 um 04:11 schrieb John F Sowa: The biologist Lynn Margulis explained that all living things from bacteria on up exhibit goal-directed actions that non-living things never do. Her simplest example is a bacterium swimming upstream in a glucose gradient. No non-living things would eve