Aw: [PEIRCE-L] Evolution of Peirce's theoretical foundation from 1903 to the end

2024-04-05 Thread Helmut Raulien
Edwina, List,   I think, "classification" has two meanings: The classifying act, where causality goes along with temporality, and second the state of  classes in the present, like a snapshot, where so there cannot be a temporality. But in this latter definition too, causality is detectable, becau

Re: [PEIRCE-L] Evolution of Peirce's theoretical foundation from 1903 to the end

2024-04-05 Thread Edwina Taborsky
A few more comments. 1] With regard to your post, John - I support the shift from a language based analysis to an image based one - but - question whether the phaneron is “in direct contact with the ding an sich’. My understanding is that such a relationship never takes place. 2]with regard to

Re: [PEIRCE-L] Evolution of Peirce's theoretical foundation from 1903 to the end

2024-04-05 Thread Jon Alan Schmidt
Edwina, List: ET: I’m afraid I simply don’t understand your outline - and wonder why the ’phaneroscopic analysis' differs from the ‘classification of signs’. I will try one more time to explain, and then I will likely have to leave it at that. Peirce's well-known 1903 taxonomy for sign classific

Re: [PEIRCE-L] Mark Token Type

2024-04-05 Thread John F Sowa
On this issue, the evidence for the trichotomy (Mark Token Type) is overwhelming.Just look at the first instance in the Prolegomena, or the copy in CP 4.537 where Peirce adopts 'Tone' as the name of the first item in the trichotomy: "An indefinite significant character such as a tone of voi

Re: [PEIRCE-L] Evolution of Peirce's theoretical foundation from 1903 to the end

2024-04-05 Thread Edwina Taborsky
> On Apr 5, 2024, at 5:35 PM, Jon Alan Schmidt wrote: > > Edwina, List: > > ET: I’m afraid I simply don’t understand your outline - and wonder why the > ’phaneroscopic analysis' differs from the ‘classification of signs’. > > I will try one more time to explain, and then I will likely have t

Re: [PEIRCE-L] Evolution of Peirce's theoretical foundation from 1903 to the end

2024-04-05 Thread John F Sowa
Jon, Edwina, List, Please note the subject line. The 1903 Harvard and Lowell lectures were an important starting point for the major developments in Peirce's final decade. And note Tony's word 'evolving' for the developments during that decade. In any decision about Peirce's directions and i

Re: [PEIRCE-L] Mark Token Type

2024-04-05 Thread Jon Alan Schmidt
John, List: Anyone is welcome to make a case for the opinion that "mark" is a *better *choice than "tone" for the first member of the trichotomy for sign classification whose other two members are "token" and "type," but no one can accurately claim that "mark" was *Peirce's *final and definitive c

Re: [PEIRCE-L] Evolution of Peirce's theoretical foundation from 1903 to the end

2024-04-05 Thread Jon Alan Schmidt
Edwina, List: ET: I’m not sure why you have defined the object as ‘dynamical’; and the interpretant as ‘final’. Peirce didn’t do that in this section. This is not at all controversial among Peirce scholars. He does not refer to the *dynamical *object and *final *interpretant in 1903 because he h

[PEIRCE-L] Zoom lecture on the CSP's role in philosophy of science (U Pitt)

2024-04-05 Thread Jerry LR Chandler
FYI JLRC Friday, April 12th @ 12:00 pm - 1:30 pm EDT This talk will also be available live streamed on: Zoom at https://pitt.zoom.us/j/94576817686 Title: Peirce Disappears: C.S. Peirce and Early Logical Empiricism Abstract: Scholars of the history of philosophy of science read and hear a lo