RE: [PEIRCE-L] Re: [biosemiotics:7097] Re: Natural Propositions, Chapter 3.6

2014-10-05 Thread Howard Pattee
Gary F, I was responding to your statement: "Bits (as the name implies!) can only be small pieces of symbols in the semiotic sense of the word "symbol"; they are not symbols." Of course, a bit is not a symbol or a piece of symbol. It is a measure of information. I was trying to indicate that

RE: [PEIRCE-L] Re: [biosemiotics:7097] Re: Natural Propositions, Chapter 3.6

2014-10-05 Thread Gary Fuhrman
:hpat...@roadrunner.com] Sent: 5-Oct-14 3:53 PM To: biosemiot...@lists.ut.ee; 'Peirce List' Subject: RE: [PEIRCE-L] Re: [biosemiotics:7097] Re: Natural Propositions, Chapter 3.6 At 01:15 PM 10/5/2014, Gary Fuhrman wrote: >Nobody (least of all Peirce!) is naming bits "symbols" or &quo

RE: [PEIRCE-L] Re: [biosemiotics:7097] Re: Natural Propositions, Chapter 3.6

2014-10-05 Thread Howard Pattee
At 01:15 PM 10/5/2014, Gary Fuhrman wrote: Nobody (least of all Peirce!) is naming bits "symbols" or "legisigns". Bits (as the name implies!) can only be small pieces of symbols in the semiotic sense of the word "symbol"; they are not symbols in the Peircean sense because a bit by itself, out

RE: [PEIRCE-L] Re: [biosemiotics:7097] Re: Natural Propositions, Chapter 3.6

2014-10-05 Thread Gary Fuhrman
n be a sinsign, won't be a sign at all, if it doesn't contribute its bit to the activation a semiotic system. gary f. From: Howard Pattee [mailto:hpat...@roadrunner.com] Sent: 5-Oct-14 12:11 PM To: biosemiot...@lists.ut.ee; biosemiot...@lists.ut.ee; 'Peirce List' Subject: [PEIRCE

[PEIRCE-L] Re: [biosemiotics:7097] Re: Natural Propositions, Chapter 3.6

2014-10-05 Thread Howard Pattee
At 08:50 AM 10/5/2014, Gary Fuhrman wrote: Howard, I think this is a good explanation of how the word "symbol" is used in the language of physics. As such, it explains why the language of physics is of limited use in semiotics. HP: Of course it is of limited use. It only explains why the most