Re: [PEIRCE-L] The structure of recent philosophy

2019-01-28 Thread John F Sowa
Helmut and Jon, HR But what is an *argument" with the "is" used for identity, like "is and only is", or "exactly is"? I agree that more detail is required for a definition of 'argument'. Every argument includes a sequence of propositions, but an arbitrary sequence of propositions is not an arg

Re: [PEIRCE-L] The structure of recent philosophy

2019-01-28 Thread Jon Alan Schmidt
John S., List: You asked me on Friday, "Who is your intended audience?" It has become clear from this exchange that it is not logicians. I am seeking neither to conform to the standard terminology of modern formal logic, nor to revise it. I am simply coming at it from a different (but still Pei

Aw: Re: [PEIRCE-L] The structure of recent philosophy

2019-01-28 Thread Helmut Raulien
    Supplement: No, that does not get it. It may be, that I am hungry and weak, but, though weakness may usually be a  subset of hungriness, I dont get weak from being hungry so soon, but am weak because I am thirsty. So what now? John, list, "An *argument* is a sequence of one or more propos

Aw: Re: [PEIRCE-L] The structure of recent philosophy

2019-01-28 Thread Helmut Raulien
John, list, "An *argument* is a sequence of one or more propositions" is true, of course, by "is" used, as commonly, for "is a kind of". But what is an *argument" with the "is" used for identity, like "is and only is", or "exactly is"? It must contain something like a "because" or a "so", so (gu

Re: [PEIRCE-L] The structure of recent philosophy

2019-01-27 Thread John F Sowa
On 1/27/2019 10:22 PM, Jon Alan Schmidt wrote: In other words, you simply choose to add a fourth division --identifiers--rather than widening one, as Peirce did. No. There is a difference between adding some fundamentally new semantics and just giving a name to some syntactic variant. To be cle

Re: [PEIRCE-L] The structure of recent philosophy

2019-01-27 Thread Jon Alan Schmidt
John S., List: JFS: An *identifier* is a symbol that represents something in the UoD. In the algebraic notation, an identifier is called a variable. In EGs, an identifier is called a line of identity. In other words, you simply choose to add a fourth division--identifiers--rather than widening

Re: [PEIRCE-L] The structure of recent philosophy

2019-01-27 Thread John F Sowa
Jon AS, In modern predicate logic, is the variable a predicate, a proposition, or an argument (in Peirce's sense)? Clearly none of these, so either a fourth division is required or the first one must be widened. Every sentence in every version of logic, formal or informal, consists of symbols

Re: [PEIRCE-L] The structure of recent philosophy

2019-01-27 Thread Jon Alan Schmidt
John S., List: In modern predicate logic, is the variable a predicate, a proposition, or an argument (in Peirce's sense)? Clearly none of these, so either a fourth division is required or the first one must be widened. In standard notation for modern predicate logic, an upside-down A or E repres

Re: [PEIRCE-L] The structure of recent philosophy

2019-01-27 Thread John F Sowa
On 1/27/2019 12:36 AM, Gary Richmond wrote: I might quibble with the language "/pure/ index"--is there such a thing? I support the quibble. Just look at any index, such as a weather vane. It has an arrow that points in the direction of the wind. And that arrow resembles (is an icon of) the ki

Re: [PEIRCE-L] The structure of recent philosophy

2019-01-26 Thread Gary Richmond
Jon, John, list, Jon wrote: ". . .the subject matter here is not limited to *logic *as the science of *Symbols*--it is *semeiotic *as the science of *all Signs*. A pure Index denotes something without signifying anything, which means that it neither is nor has a predicate." I agree (although I m

Re: [PEIRCE-L] The structure of recent philosophy

2019-01-26 Thread John F Sowa
Jon AS, the subject matter here is not limited to logic as the science of Symbols--it is semeiotic as the science of all Signs. In the quotations below, logic is "another name for semiotic." All theories, including every version of logic and semiotic, are stated in symbols, but symbols can be

Re: [PEIRCE-L] The structure of recent philosophy

2019-01-26 Thread Stephen Curtiss Rose
Icon, Index, Symbol I take to be the foundational CSP triad and the one from which I infer Reality, Ethics, Aesthetics as a basis for proposing a mode of universal conscious thinking. amazon.com/author/stephenrose On Sat, Jan 26, 2019 at 6:23 PM Jon Alan Schmidt wrote: > John S., List: > > JFS:

Re: [PEIRCE-L] The structure of recent philosophy

2019-01-26 Thread Jon Alan Schmidt
John S., List: JFS: That is why the precise triad for modern logic *and* for Peirce's algebraic logic is predicate/proposition/argument. Sure, but as I keep pointing out, the subject matter here is not limited to *logic *as the science of *Symbols*--it is *semeiotic *as the science of *all Sig

Re: [PEIRCE-L] The structure of recent philosophy

2019-01-26 Thread John F Sowa
Edwina and Jon AS, I think that this transformative semiosis is what should be emphasized, since its infrastructure is a powerful speculative framework, which can be used with great effect in examining and explaining not only linguistic evolution and cognitive processes but also biological and

Re: [PEIRCE-L] The structure of recent philosophy

2019-01-26 Thread Edwina Taborsky
BODY { font-family:Arial, Helvetica, sans-serif;font-size:12px; }John, list I fully agree with your concern. Discussions about terminology, which sees those terms as akin to isolate separate species differentiation and classification, are 'simple' in the sense that th

[PEIRCE-L] The structure of recent philosophy

2019-01-26 Thread John F Sowa
I came across a diagram that shows the patterns of references to various philosophers in publications from 1950 to the present: https://homepage.univie.ac.at/noichlm94/img/struct_phil_iii/full_struct.pdf See below for a description of how that diagram was derived. Most of the references are to p