Aw: Re: Re: [PEIRCE-L] Laws of Nature as Signs

2017-04-13 Thread Helmut Raulien
    Supplement: I have made a mistake with my explaining a relation with itself: If there is a set that has a relation with itself, this relation is not a subset of all tupels possibly formed by any two elements of this set, but of the set that would be formed by all tupels of the set and a copy

Aw: Re: Re: [PEIRCE-L] Laws of Nature as Signs

2017-04-13 Thread Helmut Raulien
Jon, List, You wrote, that a dyadic relation of anything to itself is simply identity. Well, I dont know, how far you can apply the mathematical "relation" to the Peircean, but in mathematics it is not so: Eg. you have the set (mouse, dog, elephant), and the dyadic relation reason is "smaller

Re: Aw: Re: Re: [PEIRCE-L] Laws of Nature as Signs

2017-04-09 Thread Jon Alan Schmidt
Helmut, Edwina, List: HR: my point was, that a token is embodied, but a molecule has no clear borders (of it´s body) ... In this context, "embodied" does not necessarily mean that a Token "has a body," it just means that it is existentially instantiated in some way. The word "Token" is a Type,

Re: Aw: Re: Re: [PEIRCE-L] Laws of Nature as Signs

2017-04-09 Thread Edwina Taborsky
Helmut, list - the molecule doesn't need to have a discrete self with distinct borders in order to be a 'token' of a 'type'. The fact that its composition is specific; i.e., a specific number of electrons/protons/neutrons - gives it a distinct identity that differentiates it from another TYPE

Aw: Re: Re: [PEIRCE-L] Laws of Nature as Signs

2017-04-08 Thread Helmut Raulien
Edwina, List, my point was, that a token is embodied, but a molecule has no clear borders (of it´s body), as it contains electrons, whose orbitals are borderless, and the gravitation (and other fields) of the molecule also is borderless. Borders in physical-chemical- world are defined by humans,