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2019-02-27 Thread Helmut Raulien
02/19 5:14 AM , "Auke van Breemen" a.bree...@chello.nl sent: Edwina,   Edwina,   I was wondering what meaning you attach to ‘blind copting’.   Are you thinking about pantographs (https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Pantograph) or mechanical key reproducers like: https://www.grainger.c

Re: Aw: Re: Re: Re: [PEIRCE-L] Imitation as pragmatism and solution to entropy problem

2019-02-27 Thread Edwina Taborsky
. Are you thinking about pantographs (https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Pantograph [1]) or mechanical key reproducers like: https://www.grainger.com/product/KABA-ILCO-Key-Duplicator-52HN52 [2] Best, Auke Van: Edwina Taborsky Verzonden: zondag 24 februari 2019 14:

Aw: Re: Re: Re: [PEIRCE-L] Imitation as pragmatism and solution to entropy problem

2019-02-27 Thread Helmut Raulien
ki/Pantograph) or mechanical key reproducers like: https://www.grainger.com/product/KABA-ILCO-Key-Duplicator-52HN52   Best,   Auke     Van: Edwina Taborsky Verzonden: zondag 24 februari 2019 14:53 Aan: tabor...@primus.ca; 'Helmut Raulien' ; Stephen Jarosek CC: 'Auke van Breemen&#

Re: Aw: Re: Re: [PEIRCE-L] Imitation as pragmatism and solution to entropy problem

2019-02-26 Thread Edwina Taborsky
about pantographs (https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Pantograph [1]) or mechanical key reproducers like: https://www.grainger.com/product/KABA-ILCO-Key-Duplicator-52HN52 [2] Best, Auke Van: Edwina Taborsky Verzonden: zondag 24 februari 2019 14:53 Aan: tabor...@primus.ca; &#x

Aw: Re: Re: [PEIRCE-L] Imitation as pragmatism and solution to entropy problem

2019-02-26 Thread Helmut Raulien
o ‘blind copting’.   Are you thinking about pantographs (https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Pantograph) or mechanical key reproducers like: https://www.grainger.com/product/KABA-ILCO-Key-Duplicator-52HN52   Best,   Auke     Van: Edwina Taborsky Verzonden: zondag 24 februari 2019 14:53 Aan: tabor...

RE: [PEIRCE-L] Imitation as pragmatism and solution to entropy problem

2019-02-26 Thread Stephen Jarosek
g how to be (Dasein) and the assimilation of values into a logically consistent whole. I place my vote on the word assimitation. sj From: Stephen Jarosek [mailto:sjaro...@iinet.net.au ] Sent: Friday, February 22, 2019 8:37 AM To: tabor...@primus.ca; 'Helmut Raulien' Cc: 'Auke van Bree

Re: Aw: Re: [PEIRCE-L] Imitation as pragmatism and solution to entropy problem

2019-02-25 Thread Edwina Taborsky
Best, Auke Van: Edwina Taborsky Verzonden: zondag 24 februari 2019 14:53 Aan: tabor...@primus.ca; 'Helmut Raulien' ; Stephen Jarosek CC: 'Auke van Breemen' ; 'Peirce-L' Onderwerp: Re: RE: Aw: Re: RE: [PEIRCE-L] Imitation as pragmatism and solutio

Re: Aw: Re: [PEIRCE-L] Imitation as pragmatism and solution to entropy problem

2019-02-25 Thread Edwina Taborsky
y reproducers like: https://www.grainger.com/product/KABA-ILCO-Key-Duplicator-52HN52 [2] Best, Auke Van: Edwina Taborsky Verzonden: zondag 24 februari 2019 14:53 Aan: tabor...@primus.ca; 'Helmut Raulien' ; Stephen Jarosek CC: 'Auke van Breemen

Aw: Re: [PEIRCE-L] Imitation as pragmatism and solution to entropy problem

2019-02-25 Thread Helmut Raulien
a.org/wiki/Pantograph) or mechanical key reproducers like: https://www.grainger.com/product/KABA-ILCO-Key-Duplicator-52HN52   Best,   Auke     Van: Edwina Taborsky Verzonden: zondag 24 februari 2019 14:53 Aan: tabor...@primus.ca; 'Helmut Raulien' ; Stephen Jarosek CC: 'Auke van Bre

Aw: Re: [PEIRCE-L] Imitation as pragmatism and solution to entropy problem

2019-02-25 Thread Helmut Raulien
like: https://www.grainger.com/product/KABA-ILCO-Key-Duplicator-52HN52   Best,   Auke     Van: Edwina Taborsky Verzonden: zondag 24 februari 2019 14:53 Aan: tabor...@primus.ca; 'Helmut Raulien' ; Stephen Jarosek CC: 'Auke van Breemen' ; 'Peirce-L' Onderwerp: Re: RE: Aw: R

RE: RE: Aw: Re: RE: [PEIRCE-L] Imitation as pragmatism and solution to entropy problem

2019-02-25 Thread Auke van Breemen
: Edwina Taborsky Verzonden: zondag 24 februari 2019 14:53 Aan: tabor...@primus.ca; 'Helmut Raulien' ; Stephen Jarosek CC: 'Auke van Breemen' ; 'Peirce-L' Onderwerp: Re: RE: Aw: Re: RE: [PEIRCE-L] Imitation as pragmatism and solution to entropy problem That

Re: RE: Aw: Re: RE: [PEIRCE-L] Imitation as pragmatism and solution to entropy problem

2019-02-24 Thread Edwina Taborsky
From: Stephen Jarosek [mailto:sjaro...@iinet.net.au [1] ] Sent: Friday, February 22, 2019 8:37 AM To: tabor...@primus.ca [2]; 'Helmut Raulien' Cc: 'Auke van Breemen'; 'Peirce-L' Subject: RE: Aw: Re: RE: [PEIRCE-L] Imitation as pragmatism and solution to entropy p

RE: RE: Re: RE: [PEIRCE-L] Imitation as pragmatism and solution to entropy problem

2019-02-24 Thread Stephen Jarosek
From: Helmut Raulien [mailto:h.raul...@gmx.de] Sent: Friday, February 22, 2019 4:14 PM To: sjaro...@iinet.net.au Cc: tabor...@primus.ca; 'Auke van Breemen'; Peirce List Subject: Aw: RE: Re: RE: [PEIRCE-L] Imitation as pragmatism and solution to entropy problem Stephen, list, I t

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2019-02-23 Thread Stephen Jarosek
assimitation. sj From: Stephen Jarosek [mailto:sjaro...@iinet.net.au] Sent: Friday, February 22, 2019 8:37 AM To: tabor...@primus.ca; 'Helmut Raulien' Cc: 'Auke van Breemen'; 'Peirce-L' Subject: RE: Aw: Re: RE: [PEIRCE-L] Imitation as pragmatism and solution to entrop

Aw: RE: Re: RE: [PEIRCE-L] Imitation as pragmatism and solution to entropy problem

2019-02-22 Thread Helmut Raulien
ilto:tabor...@primus.ca] Sent: Thursday, February 21, 2019 6:06 PM To: tabor...@primus.ca; Helmut Raulien Cc: 'Auke van Breemen'; 'Peirce-L'; Stephen Jarosek Subject: Re: Aw: Re: RE: [PEIRCE-L] Imitation as pragmatism and solution to entropy problem   Helmut - my point about the

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2019-02-21 Thread Stephen Jarosek
elies on how experience wires the brain (Norman Doidge, The Brain That Changes Itself, 2007). Imitation addresses the entropy problem. Imitation is knowing how to be. Imitation is survival. Get your imitation wrong, and it might kill you. Regards From: Auke van Breemen [a.bree...@chello.nl] Sent: Thu

Re: Aw: Re: RE: [PEIRCE-L] Imitation as pragmatism and solution to entropy problem

2019-02-21 Thread Edwina Taborsky
Imitation addresses the entropy problem. Imitation is knowing how to be. Imitation is survival. Get your imitation wrong, and it might kill you. Regards From: Auke van Breemen [a.bree...@chello.nl] Sent: Thursday, February 21, 2019 9:34 AM To: 'Peirce-L' Subject: RE: [PEIRCE-L] I

Aw: Re: RE: [PEIRCE-L] Imitation as pragmatism and solution to entropy problem

2019-02-21 Thread Helmut Raulien
Case 1: it is a problem with the imagination or mimicking of action Case 2: it is a problem with the directing of attention Best, Auke van Breemen Van: Jerry Rhee <jerryr...@gmail.com> Verzonden: woensdag 20 februari 2019 23:56 Aan: Auke van Breemen <a.bree...@chello.nl> CC: biosemiot.

Re: RE: [PEIRCE-L] Imitation as pragmatism and solution to entropy problem

2019-02-21 Thread Edwina Taborsky
ng how to be. Imitation is survival. Get your imitation wrong, and it might kill you. Regards From: Auke van Breemen [a.bree...@chello.nl [1]] Sent: Thursday, February 21, 2019 9:34 AM To: 'Peirce-L' Subject: RE: [PEIRCE-L] Imitation as pragmatism and solution to entropy

RE: [PEIRCE-L] Imitation as pragmatism and solution to entropy problem

2019-02-21 Thread Auke van Breemen
an Breemen -Oorspronkelijk bericht- Van: Stephen Jarosek Verzonden: donderdag 21 februari 2019 11:28 Aan: 'Auke van Breemen' ; 'Peirce-L' Onderwerp: RE: [PEIRCE-L] Imitation as pragmatism and solution to entropy problem >"Is there a difference in the way you t

RE: [PEIRCE-L] Imitation as pragmatism and solution to entropy problem

2019-02-21 Thread Stephen Jarosek
vival. Get your imitation wrong, and it might kill you. Regards From: Auke van Breemen [mailto:a.bree...@chello.nl] Sent: Thursday, February 21, 2019 9:34 AM To: 'Peirce-L' Subject: RE: [PEIRCE-L] Imitation as pragmatism and solution to entropy problem List, Jerry reminded me

RE: [PEIRCE-L] Imitation as pragmatism and solution to entropy problem

2019-02-21 Thread Auke van Breemen
Rhee Verzonden: woensdag 20 februari 2019 23:56 Aan: Auke van Breemen CC: biosemiot...@lists.ut.ee; Peirce-L Onderwerp: Re: [PEIRCE-L] Imitation as pragmatism and solution to entropy problem Dear list, Stephen said: Could imitation be so important, that this is the reason why we don’t reco

Re: [PEIRCE-L] Imitation as pragmatism and solution to entropy problem

2019-02-20 Thread Jerry Rhee
Dear list, Stephen said: Could imitation be so important, that this is the reason why we don’t recognize it? Although Peirce read and thought more about Aristotle than about any other man, the Poetry, he knew nothing about. That is, Peirce was not Greek-minded. He then turns to a discuss

RE: [PEIRCE-L] Imitation as pragmatism and solution to entropy problem

2019-02-20 Thread Auke van Breemen
Stephen, list, An interesting question. And an even more interesting approach: But this time, applying reverse logic, I asked myself… what are the illnesses that manifest because of a patient’s failure to imitate properly? I followed a similar strategy and found it most profitable for getting a