[peirce-l] Re: MS 399.663f On the sign as surrogate

2006-07-29 Thread Benjamin Udell
Bill, Jim, list, >[Bill] I pretty well agree with the following two paragraphs [by Jim, much >further down now -- Ben]. I'd like to make some friendly amendments, however. > I don't think one sign carries more evidential weight than another, but then >I'm not clear on what you mean because I d

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[peirce-l] Re: MS 399.663f On the sign as surrogate

2006-07-29 Thread Joseph Ransdell
Ben, I'm wondering if you are acquainted with the paper "Fourthness," by Herbert Schneider in what has come to in the 1952 collection of essays _Studies in the Philosophy of Charles Sanders Peirce_, ed. Wiener & Young (Harvard U Press). It is sometimes referred to retrospectively as the "First

[peirce-l] Re: MS 399.663f On the sign as surrogate

2006-07-29 Thread Joseph Ransdell
Sorry, Ben, for the garbled message. I sent it off accidentally before rereading it to pick up on rewordings without corresponding correction of the syntax. The first sentence should read: I'm wondering if you are acquainted with the paper "Fourthness," by Herbert Schneider in the 1952 collectio

[peirce-l] Re: MS 399.663f On the sign as surrogate

2006-07-29 Thread Benjamin Udell
Joe, Thank you for offering Schneider's paper to my attention. I haven't read it, but I've read about it in "Why Triadic" http://www.paulburgess.org/triadic.html by Paul Burgess. Satisfaction through "scratching an itch" apart from any summum bonum doesn't seem like verification to me, though S

[peirce-l] Re: MS 399.663f On the sign as surrogate

2006-07-29 Thread Benjamin Udell
Sorry, I accidentally omitted part of what Burgess said in his note on left-right orientation and triadicity in "Why Triadic?". Now included. - Ben - Original Message - From: "Benjamin Udell" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> To: "Peirce Discussion Forum" Sent: Saturday, July 29, 2006 1:11 PM Subject

[peirce-l] Re: MS 399.663f On the sign as surrogate

2006-07-29 Thread Bill Bailey
Ben, Jim, list, I'm going to change the sign posts to BB for me and BU for Ben this time around [Bill] I pretty well agree with the following two paragraphs [by Jim, much further down now -- Ben]. I'd like to make some friendly amendments, however. I don't think one sign carries more eviden

[peirce-l] Re: MS 399.663f On the sign as surrogate

2006-07-29 Thread Benjamin Udell
Bill, Jim, list, >>>[Bill] I pretty well agree with the following two paragraphs [by Jim, much >>>further down now -- Ben]. I'd like to make some friendly amendments, >>>however. I don't think one sign carries more evidential weight than >>>another, but then I'm not clear on what you mean bec

[peirce-l] Re: MS 399.663f On the sign as surrogate

2006-07-29 Thread Benjamin Udell
Sorry. One little correction of a phrase which would otherise be very confusing. - Ben - Original Message - From: "Benjamin Udell" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> To: "Peirce Discussion Forum" Sent: Saturday, July 29, 2006 3:47 PM Subject: [peirce-l] Re: MS 399.663f On the sign as surrogate Bill,

[peirce-l] Re: MS 399.663f On the sign as surrogate

2006-07-29 Thread Bill Bailey
Ben, and whatever list members are still reading, I'm going to do some pruning; if necessary, we can always go back. Again, BB for me, BU for you BU: Sorry. One little correction of a phrase which would otherise be very confusing. - Ben BU: If we never can apprehend an existent object, t

[peirce-l] Re: MS 399.663f On the sign as surrogate

2006-07-29 Thread Benjamin Udell
Bill, Geez, I think that we're talking mostly past each other at this point. You don't seem to feel the force of an objection to bad logical regression, in particular. Whatever philosophy may be, a quintessential philosophical move has been to apply the philosophical claims to the philosophizin

[peirce-l] Re: MS 399.663f On the sign as surrogate

2006-07-29 Thread Bill Bailey
Ben, I think you must be right, especially with regard to my not feeling the force of an objection to bad logical regression. Indeed, I'm not only insensitive, but too ignorant to see that I've made any incursion into a logical regression. Thanks, I'm familiar with Merleau-Ponty. I enjoyed