Chiapas and the progressive Internationalists

1994-02-21 Thread Trond Andresen
Inspired by Harry Cleaver's excellent piece on the Chiapas uprising, I think it is appropriate to remind of a discussion we had here on pen-l in September 1993. Tom Weisskopf defined the two main sides in that "Global Economic Integration discussion" as the "progressive internationalist

Re: Chiapas and the progressive Internationalists

1994-02-21 Thread Nathan Newman
Trond, While I appreciate the PNP/PIP distinction, it is always interesting how that leads to support for the same actions even with expectations that are sharply different. Chiapas is a perfect movement for PIP; the Zapatistas are not pure isolationists even if they are resisting

RE: Karl on Krisis

1994-02-21 Thread Doug Henwood
Thanks a million. So where does that leave the Monthly Review school and their theories of permanent/irreversible/etc. crisis? Doug Doug Henwood [[EMAIL PROTECTED]] Left Business Observer 212-874-4020 (voice) 212-874-3137 (fax) On Sat, 19 Feb 1994, Michael Lebowitz wrote: In Message Sat, 19

RE: Karl on Krisis

1994-02-21 Thread Jim Devine
IMHO, the Monthly Review folks can't be criticized be x simply because they don't pledge ak allegiance to some qy quotes in Marx's unpublished manuscripts. They can claim (reasonably enough) that they use the word "crisis" in a different sense than did Marx. Or they can quibble about how long

World Bank

1994-02-21 Thread Andrew Sessions
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RE: Karl on Krisis

1994-02-21 Thread Michael Lebowitz
In Message Mon, 21 Feb 1994 15:28:06 -0500 (EST), Doug Henwood [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: Thanks a million. So where does that leave the Monthly Review school and their theories of permanent/irreversible/etc. crisis? Doug The answer, I suppose, is that it leaves MR firmly in a Marxian

REAL WORLD INTERNATIONAL readers - in ASCII

1994-02-21 Thread Marc Breslow
Dear Pen-Lers: With this note, I am sending you an advance copy of the Table of Contents from a new publication by Dollars Sense, REAL WORLD INTERNATIONAL -- a collection of 17 of our best articles and short pieces on international topics. If you teach a course for which you would consider

re: Karl on Krisis

1994-02-21 Thread jlgulick
While fidelity to the gospel should not be the measure of the truth of any statement regarding crisis, I too find the notion of permanent crisis to be somewhat ridiculous. There's the Luxemburg variety, which asserts that capitalism survives only by dumping unrealized surplus on regions external

RRPE Vol 26 No 1

1994-02-21 Thread HOUSTON
Dear PEN-L subscribers: Just a note to remind you that the next issue of The Review of Radical Political Economics, Vol 26 No 1 March 1994 is about to hit your local progressive newsstands or if you're an URPE member to show up in your mailbox (we hope). The contents of this issue include:

Chiapas and the progressive Internationalists

1994-02-21 Thread Trond Andresen
Inspired by Harry Cleaver's excellent piece on the Chiapas uprising, I think it is appropriate to remind of a discussion we had here on pen-l in September 1993. Tom Weisskopf defined the two main sides in that "Global Economic Integration discussion" as the "progressive internationalist

Re: Chiapas and the progressive Internationalists

1994-02-21 Thread Nathan Newman
Trond, While I appreciate the PNP/PIP distinction, it is always interesting how that leads to support for the same actions even with expectations that are sharply different. Chiapas is a perfect movement for PIP; the Zapatistas are not pure isolationists even if they are resisting

Re: Chiapas and the progressive Internationalists

1994-02-21 Thread Jim Devine
On Feb. 21, Trond said: (PNP = progressive nationalist and PIP = progressive internationalist) Myself, I belong to the PNP faction. During the discussion, it was made clear that f.inst. Jim Devine's and Nathan Newman's strategy for socialism was to first let capitalism globalize into the end

RE: Karl on Krisis

1994-02-21 Thread Doug Henwood
Thanks a million. So where does that leave the Monthly Review school and their theories of permanent/irreversible/etc. crisis? Doug Doug Henwood [[EMAIL PROTECTED]] Left Business Observer 212-874-4020 (voice) 212-874-3137 (fax) On Sat, 19 Feb 1994, Michael Lebowitz wrote: In Message Sat, 19

REAL WORLD INTERNATIONAL readers - in ASCII

1994-02-21 Thread Marc Breslow
Dear Pen-Lers: With this note, I am sending you an advance copy of the Table of Contents from a new publication by Dollars Sense, REAL WORLD INTERNATIONAL -- a collection of 17 of our best articles and short pieces on international topics. If you teach a course for which you would consider

re: Michael Jordon and the Cost of Nikes

1994-02-21 Thread mcclintockbrent%faculty%Carthage
Some six months ago, one of my psychology colleagues came into work looking very troubled. He'd just heard some DJ give the data on Nike, Michael Jordan, and Indonesian footwear workers. He was perplexed as to how to make any sense of the statistic that it would take 5,000 years of wages for

World Bank

1994-02-21 Thread Andrew Sessions
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RE: Karl on Krisis

1994-02-21 Thread Jim Devine
IMHO, the Monthly Review folks can't be criticized be x simply because they don't pledge ak allegiance to some qy quotes in Marx's unpublished manuscripts. They can claim (reasonably enough) that they use the word "crisis" in a different sense than did Marx. Or they can quibble about how long

RE: Karl on Krisis

1994-02-21 Thread Michael Lebowitz
In Message Mon, 21 Feb 1994 15:28:06 -0500 (EST), Doug Henwood [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: Thanks a million. So where does that leave the Monthly Review school and their theories of permanent/irreversible/etc. crisis? Doug The answer, I suppose, is that it leaves MR firmly in a Marxian

re: Karl on Krisis

1994-02-21 Thread jlgulick
While fidelity to the gospel should not be the measure of the truth of any statement regarding crisis, I too find the notion of permanent crisis to be somewhat ridiculous. There's the Luxemburg variety, which asserts that capitalism survives only by dumping unrealized surplus on regions external

RRPE Vol 26 No 1

1994-02-21 Thread HOUSTON
Dear PEN-L subscribers: Just a note to remind you that the next issue of The Review of Radical Political Economics, Vol 26 No 1 March 1994 is about to hit your local progressive newsstands or if you're an URPE member to show up in your mailbox (we hope). The contents of this issue include:

Interest rates and politics

1994-02-21 Thread Paul Cockshott
Trond asks what is the difference between an economic and a political determination of interest rates? He says that we have a ruling class that benefits from high interest rates and has a long tradition of arguing for that. This is all true, but it does little to explain why interest rates