In message Thu, 27 Oct 1994 02:36:57 -0700,
Trond Andresen <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes:
> The question of how much central planning (as opposed to market
> mechanisms) you can have before the system gets inefficient, cannot be
> discussed without considering how to organize democracy, politics,
Today, I posted a paper "Taxation without Representation: a
Reconstruction of < Marx's theory of Exploitation" in the
econ\incoming (heterodox economics\incoming) directory of
csf.colorado.edu. It's available via gopher and ftp (if not
other ways). If you're interested in the subject, I would
appr
I worked for Bank of America several years ago and they were using
credit scoring for consumer loans such as car loans (although I
suppose this doesn't prove it's legal in California!)
I think one of their reasons for using it was precisely to avoid
allegations of discrimination. I recall one of
>What literature?? The opposite seems to be the overwhelming
>conslusion of the people who work on this stuff. And use
Biased sample. People who work on this stuff tend to be predisposed towards
racialist explanations of human behavior.
-bob naiman
One of the things that keeps a PackRat a Packrat is the law that states: "As
soon as you discard something, you will need it." I have been trying to force
myself to skip network mail, and only keep those things I obviously will use.
But three times in a week I have needed something I didn't think
In response to Rudy Fichtenbaum's response to my response to his
response,
etc. RF states that
...it seems contradictory to say that there is a genetic
component to poverty given the social/cultural...milieu in
which we live. Doesn't this mean that it is the social
Allin Cottrell and I have 2 articles out which are basically replies
to the Hayekian/Von Mises critique of socialist planning:
'Calculation Complexity and planning: the socialist calculation
debate once again', Review of Political Economy, Vol 5, No 1
'Socialist Planning after the collapse of the
Duh, I dunno. I ain't taken no vow of no silence, but I dunno. Guess I've
been watching too much Beavis and Butt-head.
Call Larry Lindsay at the Fed!
Doug
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On Thu, 27 Oct 1994 [EMAIL PROTECTED] wr
>
>I realize that this question has come up in the past, but I haven't
>saved EVERY msg from Pen-L! Can someone recommend some good readings
>for advanced undergraduates on the the economics of race? I am interested
>in both readings on theories of discrimination and descriptive works on
>the
Ellen Dannin:
"When I have taught evidence, I ask my students why we have rules at all.
There are several reasons - one is to keep information from the jury -
information which we are concerned they will use in inappropriate ways. That
may come into play in this sort of setting. There is a dange
On Thu, 27 Oct 1994 10:37:18 -0700 Rudy Fichtenbaum said:
>I am by no means an expert on this issue but my reading of the
>literature suggests that there is little if any reliable evidence
>that IQ is heritable.
What literature?? The opposite seems to be the overwhelming
conslusion of the people
Doug,
I don't know if he's still on the list, but Gary Dymski would be a good
source for this question. Also, try and contact Tim Bates at Wayne State.
patrick "Murray and Hernnstein are racist pigs" mason
Well Doug, in addition to everything written by Patrick L. Mason, I would
also recommend Wornie L. Reed, editor, AFRICAN-AMERICANS: ESSENTIAL
PERSPECTIVES. I have some other references, but I'm a bit short on time.
Hence, I will post them to you latter. peace, patrick
On October 15-17, 1994, the Institute for Agricultural and Trade Policy
organized an intergenerational conference featuring many of the founders and
early leaders of the Bretton Woods system that produced the International
Monetary Fund (IMF) and World Bank, and finally the World Trade Org
short follow-up on my comment on segmented labor markets and
IQs:
one of the barriers between the primary and secondary labor
markets is that of racism: it white society discriminates against
one because you're melanin-enhanced, you're more likely to get
stuck in the secondary labor market, which
The Hayek critique brings up an issue that I brought up awhile back
but somehow got turned into a flame about Roemerism.
The issue, restated: capitalism, because it is based on intense
competition, encourages a competitive culture and opportunistic
behavior. Specifically, it encourages "agents" t
On Thu, 27 Oct 1994, Cotter_Cindy wrote:
> Ellen Dannen says:
[Dannin actually]
+>
> "When you move from a person's propensity to a group propensity you get into
> ever more dangerous territory. It really does not matter very much what 100
> female law professors have a propensity to do when y
Alan Isaac writes:
'... So I think this list goes astray if we
focus too much on the race issue when thinking about the
polciy implications of the following facts: we can construct
a measure called "IQ" for individuals, this measure shows
persistence across repeated testing, and this measure appea
The _Equal Credit Opportunity Act_ requires that any credit-scoring
system be statistically sound. ECOA does not allow credit scoring models
to grade race, relision, sex, or national origin. Does this guarantee
there will be no discrimination?
On Thu, 27 Oct 1994 [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
>
Come on now!! I can't believe nobody on this network knows in which cases
credit scoring is legal, and in which it is not. So, a repeat of my early
request. If I don't get any responses this time, I'll give up! (Doug Henwood,
have you vowed silence again??)
The issue of credit scoring came
I realize that this question has come up in the past, but I haven't
saved EVERY msg from Pen-L! Can someone recommend some good readings
for advanced undergraduates on the the economics of race? I am interested
in both readings on theories of discrimination and descriptive works on
the real wo
Ray Miller responding to my previous post writes:
>
>More directly to the point, neither M&H nor I argue that CIQ test scores are
>not affected by environmental/social/cultural factors. What we do maintain is
>that there is a significant genetic component to these scores.
I am by no means an e
My thanks to Rudy Fichtenbaum for his thoughtful and thought-provoking critique
of my earlier post on this topic. I wish to reply to several of his points. I
apologize for not quoting him directly--my mailer does not allow this.
First, RF notes that IQ scores benefit from training, and conclude
Ellen Dannen says:
"When you move from a person's propensity to a group propensity you get into
ever more dangerous territory. It really does not matter very much what 100
female law professors have a propensity to do when you are making a judgment
which hinges on what I have done. The danger o
Also, are people aware of Stafford Beer's book Platform for Change? It's a
collection of pieces about using cybernetics/information theory to "drive
decision making down the hierarchy" so that planning does not neccessarily
entail centralization of power nor delay.
The culmination of the book i
This may be relevant ad hominem, but it is not relevant to the
policy issues raised by the links between genes, environment,
and "IQ". Keep in mind that turning links between self-reported
race and IQ into links between heredity and IQ is extremely
problematic, especially when the self-report is "
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> Actually I was partly inspired to ask the question by reading Roemer's _A
> Future for Socialism_, which I find irritating in many ways. This urge to
>
Robin Hahnel has a very good review of Roemer's book in this month's
issue of Z Magazine. Worth checking out.
Alan
One other relevant piece of information on Murray. He was involved with
the so-called Violence Initiative. This was a semiofficial study group
with academic and government figures who tried to prove that there were
genetic factors which caused criminal behavior among the underclass. So
Murray
On Wed, 26 Oct 1994 12:32:58 -0700 Rudy Fichtenbaum said:
>Alan Isaac writes:
>
>>
>>In contrast, I believe the Minnesotta Twin study found an "IQ"
>>correlation of about .7 for twins raised apart. I will also
>>claim that anyone who spends time with children will see readily
>>enough a large gene
Here is part of the second of two recent posts by Brian Redman,
Urbana IL <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>. Each is about 14Kbytes long. If
you want to see the rest of Professor Chomsky's remarks, you
should get in touch with Brian.
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Dale Wharton [EMAIL PROTECTED]
The question of how much central planning (as opposed to market
mechanisms) you can have before the system gets inefficient, cannot be
discussed without considering how to organize democracy, politics, the
media.
A program for this is IMO just as important as an "economic" socialist
program.
Tr
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